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[sharkheart]

The Arishok is a brilliant character but he freaks me out.

[Kadi]

Bann Duncan wrote...

However one feels about the Qun, it is difficult to argue that the Arishok is anything but an intriguing character with excellent acting.

Wellsaid, im looking forword to more Qunari storylines in later games =)

[DesmondMiles]

a part of me thinks that acts 2&3 should of being swapped around that way having the arishok as a possible last boss or siding with him i think could be been epic.....well i think
oh and the arishok was such a good character i felt bad having to fight him

[Dark Specie]

¨Though I wouldn't want to live under the Qun, I and my Hawke respected the Arishok and saw him as a very honest & honourable person. It's a tragic thing that things had to end the way they did but that's life.

He was a very interesting character, all in all. Defintively more interesting as an adversary/rival than Meredith could ever be for one thing.

[Gammalfarmor]

The Arishok is truly awsome and this is not one of those AWSOME!!!111 but I seriously mean it.

[HolyJellyfish]

I loved the Arishok. I wish there was more of him.

Bring Fenris when you first meet him. The brooding elf boy won MAJOR points with me after he impressed the Arishok with his knowledge.

If you don't like Fenris, I still recommend bringing that elf with you when you meet the Arishok. You may end up disliking him less.

[Bann Duncan]

I'm glad that there's been such good reception to the Arishok.

I was afraid that the situation would end up like Loghain's reception by much of the BSN whereby a morally grey character was made into a black/white evil character like the Blight itself.

His VA deserves a medal - the voice played every bit as much of a role as the dialogue in establishing the character.

[soignee]

As I mentioned elsewhere:

on a purely surface, vain level here... The voice actor for the Arishok is amazing. He can read a page of the dictionary of his choice and I'll listen like a rapt school girl at his feet.

I STILL STAND BY THE SENTIMENT.

[panamakira]

leggywillow wrote...

Kitimandiri wrote...

You also can't deny he has a great rack...

LOL!  You win all the Internets.

It's scary how much we think alike.....hehe....giving the Arishok the pervy eye....

[Boobasaurus]

Interesting character indeed.

[Madame November]

Sumbit to the Qun. Like now.

[GunMoth]

Okay, so after making an embarrassing post in a Qunari thread, confessing my love for Sten, I have realized that Qunari remind me of Samurai. Although they're based on Turkish culture, they definitely have a sense of honor and duty that cannot be found anywhere else in the game. Many of the romance options in DA for females are VERY wishy washy. Internal conflict is important for character development, but I was extremely compelled by Sten's side quest, and the way he treated me afterwards.

Alistair wasn't strong enough to assume direct control of Ferelden (yeah, I went there), Fenris was Broody (couldn't stand to be more open minded or less offensive towards the people he interacted with unless they agreed with him), Anders was whiny (understandably so, but he couldn't accept responsibility for what he did to Justice), and Zev was just a hypersexual Spanish lover from a soap opera.

I REALLY appreciate the Qunari's presence in the game. Thank you Bioware, for making such a compelling race.

[Madame November]

I am completely in love with the Arishok. *sigh* I hope Bioware sends us to Par Vollen or Seheron.

[Killjoy Cutter]

The Arishok is an interesting character, but not one I can respect. If he had told Hawke why he was there and could not leave earlier, it wouldn't have come to the end that it did.

[thepringle]

I wish there could have been a way to resolve everything with him and make him a companion

[Bann Duncan]

GunMoth wrote...

Okay, so after making an embarrassing post in a Qunari thread, confessing my love for Sten, I have realized that Qunari remind me of Samurai. Although they're based on Turkish culture, they definitely have a sense of honor and duty that cannot be found anywhere else in the game. Many of the romance options in DA for females are VERY wishy washy. Internal conflict is important for character development, but I was extremely compelled by Sten's side quest, and the way he treated me afterwards.

Based on Turkish culture? Was this confirmed? I'm studying Middle Eastern history and I've found no real similarities.

[GunMoth]

Bann Duncan wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Okay, so after making an embarrassing post in a Qunari thread, confessing my love for Sten, I have realized that Qunari remind me of Samurai. Although they're based on Turkish culture, they definitely have a sense of honor and duty that cannot be found anywhere else in the game. Many of the romance options in DA for females are VERY wishy washy. Internal conflict is important for character development, but I was extremely compelled by Sten's side quest, and the way he treated me afterwards.

Based on Turkish culture? Was this confirmed? I'm studying Middle Eastern history and I've found no real similarities.

Yes. Get ready, I'ma vomit out a quick and sloppy history lesson. 

"The qunari are quite likely based partially on the Ottoman Empire and Seljuk Turks, as they are mortal enemies of the Tevinter Imperium, the latter of which has been equated to the Byzantine empire. They possess advanced technology including cannons, are considered heathens by the Chantry and have been the target of multiple Exalted Marches, the Chantry's equivalent to a Christian Crusade."

-Dragon Age wiki.

Although I do disagree / do not see some of the references. 

I always saw Qunari being way more heavily influenced by all Asian cultures in general, not strictly Turkish culture for the exception of their language. So I agree with you there. I also felt that the Seljuk was a weird period to reference, especially since they do not look or act like Seljuk Turks. In my opinion, their culture reminds me of some parts of Japanese history mixed with Stoic ideaology along with the conquering habits of the Turks. Correct me if I'm wrong, this is all bits of random knowledge I recall from my anthropoligical archaeology / art history courses. @_@; 

I also saw Ancient Tevinter as the Roman Empire because of their relationship with Andraste, but that's about it. Majority of its artwork / culture is similar to Sumerian culture (Being at war for 2,000 years, a culture with a huge slaver foundation etc.) 

So I suppose my conclusion is that you can't really narrow it down to just one, Dragon Age is like a buffet table of historical references. Its their relationships that define them I suppose, not their culture or philosophy? 

Regardless, SOMEONE in Dragon Age wikiland wants it to be known that they are Turkish. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

The Qunari do not strike my as Turkish. They strike me as militant quasiconfucian zealots with a dose of ideological marxism thrown in.

[Gavinthelocust]

I'd gladly wear the heavy plate armor and heated iron rod for that.

[Wissenschaft]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Too bad he never gets to hear the answer to his question. I don't think Sten would have made it back to Par Vollen in the short time before the Arishok arrived in Kirkwall. He never makes mention of his curiosity about the Blight, sadly.

I always thought, given what Sten said, that the Arishok was the Qunari leader but its more like he's the head general, so yikes at ever meeting the head Qunari.

The VA did a great job, there were scenes where he scared the hell out of me. I was watching him get up and yell at Hawke and was thinking the whole time "Please don't come down those stairs, please don't come down those stairs..."

Arishok in kirkwall is just the military leader of the Qunari forces in that city.  Hes not the Arishok of all Qunari. Its very each city will have its own Arishok and their might be an Arishok that leads all the combine qunari forces. Think of it like how the military has different grades of generals.


Most likely sten was talking about another Arishok that gave him orders.

[ThorodinHawke]

I hope there Qunari DLC a female companion or Qunari Chronicles or a Qunari awakening type game with ur character in it.

[LordAsael]

The Arishok was a wonderful character and my decision to fight him was a very difficult one to RP. My Hawke was an honorable guy. He was also friends with an Isabella that returned to set things right. The Arishok didn't seem to convince me that her punishment would be just by Kirkwall or Ferelden standards and Hawke had to choose between a friend and an honourable opponent. In the end single-combat seemed the best choice to honor both his friend and what turned out to be a respected adversary. I wouldn't have gone through all that thought if the character wasn't a strong character.

I don't hate the Qunari culture. There culture is something of a race-wide religion that brings them strength and meaning. I think the game did well to contrast the two societies that we saw in the game. The Qunari, though defeated, we're undone by extraordinary circumstances which may only have been rendered possible by the Champion. Kirkwall manage to tear itself asunder regardless of the Champion's presence. The Qunari have rebels that reject the Qun and they are cast aside and live outside of the Qun and the lands of the Qunari -- Ferelden and the rest of the known lands of Thedas allow those with no place or purpose to exist within society and weaken it with crime, games of thrones, and other matters that are proving ruinous. Neither is right and neither is wrong. Qunari society is constant where the rest of Thedas leaves greater room for free thinking and initiative.

I suspect (the Arishok's warning all but confirms) that we'll see more of the Qunari in times to come.

[GunMoth]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

The Qunari do not strike my as Turkish. They strike me as militant quasiconfucian zealots with a dose of ideological marxism thrown in.

Hahaha. Well, they aren't modern Turks, that's for sure. 

Their philosophy isn't limited to Communism or Marxism. Many religions with that ideology came waaay before those schools of thought were developed. We see examples of caste structures in early empires. There was also stoicism, and several other religious philosophies that viewed each individual as a small part of a greater picture. Muslim ideaology is similar to this, which makes a lot of sense considering the Turks were in the middle east during the period they're referencing. (At war with Persians) 

These ideologies do not work when a country isn't at war. Luckily for the Qunari, they're always at war. Ho ho ho. 

[GunMoth]

Something I've always wondered: I know that the reason they didn't give Sten horns was because of the helmet issue, but I remember reading somewhere (and correct me if I'm wrong) that they tried to integrate that into the story by saying Qunari born without horns are considered to be special individuals. Which makes me wonder, why do leaders like the Arishok have large horns? Wouldn't smaller / no horns be preferable among the Qunari? Perhaps the Arishok's large horns were strictly symbolic (power. large horns. etc).

Thoughts? 

Modifié par GunMoth, 17 mars 2011 - 10:39 .