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[someon7x]

I dedicate this post to a quote from the Bioware co-founders:

"My favorite thing, it's funny when you still see it, but the joke of some of the dialogue systems where it asks, 'do you wanna do this or this,' and you say no. 'Do you wanna do this or this?' No. 'Do you wanna do this or this?' No. Lemme think -- you want me to say 'yes.' And that, unfortunately, really characterized the JRPG."

Without further ado, I present Dragon Age 2: Super happy jrpg go fever edition!


Flemeth: Take my amulet to the Dalish outside Kirkwall
Hawke: I'm not making any guarantees
JRPG Plot Machine: Main Plot - Long Way Home.
Player: Didn't I just say mebbe and isn't Main Plot mandatory?

Hawke: Yo Anders, give me your deep roads map
Anders: I'll give you the map if you do me a favor
Hawke: Screw you, I'll find my own way into the deep roads
JRPG Plot Machine: Main Plot - Tranquility
Player: First, didn't  I send this chump to his death in Awakening? Second, did I just receive a mandatory quest by refusing it???

Anders: You are the only one that can help me sneak into the chantry
Hawke: Pfft, I'm not helping you
JRPG Plot Machine: Anders smuggles the football into the chantry
Player: Wait a minute, are these choices really as shallow as
Blue=Yay
Yellow=Moar lore plz
Purple=Lulz
Red=Rawr

Hawke: I support the mages against the templars.
JRPG Plot Machine: Now hear this! Main Plot - On The Loose
Player: How can this be? I'm hunting mages for the templars because I...supported the mages instead of the templars???

Orsino: We're doomed and our only option is demonic possesion!
Player: Wtf is he smoking, I just instagibbed like 6 waves of templars!
JRPG Plot Machine: Insert boss battle
Player: Maker's breath, think of the nerd rage

Varric: The Champion ran off with Merrill somewhere.
Player: omg really? I was confrontational in every single dialog branch in every quest throughout the the entire game but my Hawke runs away? Boo!
JRPG Plot Machine: Thank you for purchasing the setup prequel to Dragon Age 3. A winner is you.

I'm sure there's many more examples, but I think another play through would kill both the "A" button on my controller and what little appreciation I have remaining for this sophomore slump

[Icy Magebane]

lmao... excellent.

[KAAurious]

Obvious nerd rage is obvious.

[Cajeb]

I lol'd

[Haasth]

Now. Now. Here, here. *pats* Just let it all out big boy. 

[Johnny20]

Maybe it is nerd rage, but is isn't far wrong, is it.

[SelphieSK]

lol!

I agree with the utter lack of real choices/consequences (as real as video games choices can be, anyhow).

And their PR talk was so full of "This is our most reactive game EVER!!!"
Yeah right...

[RosaAquafire]

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

[Medet]

Well, that did strike me as odd. Why even give me the option to "refuse" a quest if you're going to make me do it anyways.

It didn't bother me per say, perhaps I'm to used to the convention to be truly bothered by it anymore, but I found it odd.

[AlexXIV]

RosaAquafire wrote...

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

I hope Bioware at least pays you off for defending them so much.

[someon7x]

RosaAquafire wrote...

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

Hey now, if DAO offered me a chance to have a pack of werewolves murder a tribe of helpless elves and then made me kill the werewolves I would totally agree with you.

Unfortunately, the haunted dalish burial grounds and rampant werewolf population prevents me from seeing your light.

[Vilegrim]

RosaAquafire wrote...

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

This was far worse, try telling anders to get stuffed, you can't.  Try not doing shepherding the wolves (my pet hate of a quest) you can't.  Try saving the mages: oh look the templars where right *facepalm* nothing you do seems to make any difference.   Stupid thing is I still like the game alot :*(

Modifié par Vilegrim, 16 mars 2011 - 07:17 .

[Cajeb]

The problem is the game seems to give you the choice to not do these things but you actually have to do them. If the DA:O had dialogue options for not joining the Grey Wardens and you could accept a quest from the Archdemon and then it all played out the same anyways then...yeah you'd have a point

[AlexXIV]

Vilegrim wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

This was far worse, try telling anders to get stuffed, you can't.  Try not doing shepherding the wolves (my pet hate of a quest) you can't.  Try saving the mages: oh look the templars where right *facepalm* nothing you do seems to make any difference.   Stupid thing is I still like the game alot :*(

Well I like the game (too much) also. I wish I wouldn't then I could just forget about all the things I don't like in it.

[Nonoru]

Someone's in need of attention.

[Herr Uhl]

RosaAquafire wrote...

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

My pet peeve in DAO is that you have no choice but to chase a legendary item which even the believers doubt exists to heal Eamon. You should be able to tell Teagan to man up and go to the landsmeet.

[Icy Magebane]

Well, I thought it was funny... don't hate on the OP for being creative in their delivery! (even if you disagree with it, I mean)

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 16 mars 2011 - 07:23 .

[Parrk]

I agree. this presentation does help underscore the OP's points, and they are valid. All we need now if for some confused soul to come up in this thread telling us how this never would have happened in teh witchurrzz!

All things considered, this is a very good game imo.

Modifié par Parrk, 16 mars 2011 - 07:31 .

[someon7x]

Herr Uhl wrote...


My pet peeve in DAO is that you have no choice but to chase a legendary item which even the believers doubt exists to heal Eamon. You should be able to tell Teagan to man up and go to the landsmeet.

At least you can choose to poop in the Maker's pool by destroying Andraste's ashes. A hot'n'fresh floater for the bleating masses is a pretty forward thinking option.

And if you pimped Leliana hard enough she falls right back in line! How awesome is that right?

The DA2 writers may have a huge erection for the story they want to tell, but honestly Hawke's whole family dying would have a lot more meaning to me if I knew I could have stopped it but I chose to let them die anyways.

[Sjofn]

Herr Uhl wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

"I want to team up with the Darkspawn."
"I want to try to fight the Archdemon without gathering armies first."
"I want to save Lothering."

THERE ARE NO CHOICES IN DA:O!

My pet peeve in DAO is that you have no choice but to chase a legendary item which even the believers doubt exists to heal Eamon. You should be able to tell Teagan to man up and go to the landsmeet.

Ha, that's my main "man, why you gots to railroad me" gripe about DA:O too. My Dalish and dwarven wardens in particular were like "you have got to be kidding me."

[Arppis]

There is a lot of forced stuff in the DA:O also. I would have wanted to storm the Denerim palace. But the game didn't let me, for example.

But that was funny. Good job.

Modifié par Arppis, 16 mars 2011 - 07:47 .

[Everwarden]

 To the OP: That post was made entirely of epic win, seasoned liberally with awesome sauce. You get ten thousand points, a free ice cream cone, and a pat on the back. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 16 mars 2011 - 07:43 .

[Tsarapihelas]

So it's exactly like DA:O.

[Taleroth]

You're right!
I'll stop him!
Not if I can help it!

[Everwarden]

Sjofn wrote...
Ha, that's my main "man, why you gots to railroad me" gripe about DA:O too. My Dalish and dwarven wardens in particular werelike "you have got to be kidding me."

Hah! That's funny. My blood mage was happy to hunt down Andaste's ashes. I mean, how else would he get the chance to ****** on them?