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[dewayne31]

I don't think they will just cast hawke aside and make him/her a npc it make no sense at all. now the warden i can see it logically but not sure of that completely. the reason i say we'll hawke atleast to clean up the mess is what Varric said to Cassandra bout needing the on person that could help her put it all back together. Cassandra also says the mages will listen to Hawke.

Modifié par dewayne31, 17 mars 2011 - 05:04 .

[CyberNinjaSensei]

 I really have no clue as to what direction and events we'll go through in DA3. At the end, I figured they would intertwine The Hero and Hawke. However, whilst playing my 2nd Hawke last night, in Act 1, I came across an interesting side quest. Anyone who allowed Avernus to live can get this quest from a dead body (Dark Epiphany is the quest name) at the Wounded Coast. But, basically, in Avernus' research he found that there is an untapped and heretofore unknown power that Grey Warden's possess due to the Taint (trying not to laugh). 

Though just a side quest, I get the feeling that it's a piece that can and will be important in the coming story (or stories, depending on what Bioware has in mind). Little hints and asides seemingly tend to become a larger detail in Bioware games. So, basically, this one side quest, which is situational, depending on the gamer, has totally thrown off any idea I had regarding the future. 

I do think that will most likely involve both The Hero and Hawke, but to what extent I have no clue. I doubt we would get to play as both; one or the other seems most likely, which increases replayability a hundred fold. Flemeth I believe will be an even major plot device than she has thus far. But, due to her riddle-like approach, it's difficult to figure out an angle. I believe that if the Old God Baby is involved, it won't be a Hawke/Hero type character. If anything, due to some of the dialogue in quests, it may become the Venom to the Warden's Spider-Man. If there's untapped power within the Warden's and the baby has Old God potential, there's theoretically NO WAY the Warden's could sense the presence of the Old God Baby. And that would suck.

Hell, the more I type and think about all the different directions, I get more and more confused. And if DA3 can live up to a "blow you're effin' mind" potential that it could be, Greatest of All Time. Calling it right now. It's driving some of us crazy just trying to figure out where the story goes from here. Needless to say, DA3, much like ME3, will have A LOT to live up to.

/endwallo'text

Modifié par CyberNinjaSensei, 17 mars 2011 - 05:06 .

[AirWolf856]

I think DA3 will start out with a full on war between the Mages and the Templars.  The Templars will enter the Annulment and will no longer protect the mages from themselves.  It will have to come down to one shall stand and one shall fall.  That is probably exactly what Flemeth wanted since she wouldn't have to hide anymore with the Mages being free from both the Templars and the Circle.  Then another huge disaster will occur that will cause the Templars and Mages to have to fight together to defeat an even worse foe, the god child. 

[ReViliTy]

One thing I liked about DA2 and hope they push even further in DA3 is that some of your companions played important roles in the plot.  things happen that made you think twice of whether or not you want to be their buddy.  Instead of going with this whole chosen one angle most rpg's do, it could focus more on the group.

We don't know if flemith is bad or not.  Besides the things morrigan said, nothing is shown to make this concrete.  Heck nothing pointed out at morrigan have trully good intentions.

Bioware could throw us a curve ball with the whole God baby and warden.  It is still considered a choice whether the warden lived and the baby even happen.  They could have it set that it did happen or in another way that nobody was expecting.  The warden's death could have been faked, thus opening up the door to make the god baby cannon.  Maybe the warden's body was never found if is he/she died too.

I hope DA3 takes place years after DA2.  It would be great for the scale of the game to bigger than DAO.  Getting a chance to see what happen to old locations fully from both games and then onto other areas talked about many times through the games.

Most importantly, we get some closure to most or all of the plots still open in the game.

Modifié par ReViliTy, 17 mars 2011 - 07:04 .

[Boradam]

I believe that Flemeth is watching Sandal, since he says he sees a scary old lady and she has a creepy laugh and it would explain why anything near Sandal dies.

The Warden and Hawke vanish, I think Flemeth still isn't even with them after she saved their lives, and I think she took them to the area which Morrigan entered into.

Judging from the Destiny Trailer, Flemeth isn't possessing her daughters, she's raising an army of Witches. In the trailer you can clearly see a mass horde of her daughters that look like Morrigan, and all of them have staff's.

All in all, I think Flemeth is the Antagonist of the entire series, and that she is directly involved with the Darkspawn.

[Swords Edge]

2 words: God Child

[arathor_87]

ReViliTy wrote...

One thing I liked about DA2 and hope they push even further in DA3 is that some of your companions played important roles in the plot.  things happen that made you think twice of whether or not you want to be their buddy.  Instead of going with this whole chosen one angle most rpg's do, it could focus more on the group.

We don't know if flemith is bad or not.  Besides the things morrigan said, nothing is shown to make this concrete.  Heck nothing pointed out at morrigan have trully good intentions.

Bioware could throw us a curve ball with the whole God baby and warden.  It is still considered a choice whether the warden lived and the baby even happen.  They could have it set that it did happen or in another way that nobody was expecting.  The warden's death could have been faked, thus opening up the door to make the god baby cannon.  Maybe the warden's body was never found if is he/she died too.

I hope DA3 takes place years after DA2.  It would be great for the scale of the game to bigger than DAO.  Getting a chance to see what happen to old locations fully from both games and then onto other areas talked about many times through the games.

Most importantly, we get some closure to most or all of the plots still open in the game.

Its always the ultimate sacrifice argument people use. People never remember that you could play an orlesian warden in The Awakening. And since Orlais problably will play a part in DA3 it will be pretty easy to make a story out of this. Play as your DA:O warden or an orlesian if you did the US.

But I'll hope Bioware take some time to write an epic story for DA3, DA2 wasn't bad butI was a little disappointment for me. But its not as bad as some of the critics says thou.

And story involving the warden, Hawke in some way would be nice. We have to wait and see! : )

[Swords Edge]

2 words = God Child

[Rheinlandman]

As Sandal and Bodhan are bound for Orlias I think that is the locale for the next game, in the heart of Orlias and the heart of the Chantry.

[VenetianLunacy]

I have a feeling that Hawke will join the Warden to fight some ultimate evil, and together they will set things right. And I hope that the game will have a happy ending, for once.

[Riloux]

Old God baby, Warden, Hawke, Morrigan, Flemeth.

[Rasputin]

I think DA3 will take place in Orlais* (that cant be spelled right) and we will play as a helper/mercenary to the Seekeres - or a Seeker.... Hopefully there will be divergant endings and ways your in game choices effect the world as you go along and at the end.

However, I leave you with this:

Speculation is speculation.
&
We have dismissed those claims.

Until then I'll be woking on my calibrations.

Modifié par Rasputin, 17 mars 2011 - 07:51 .

[VampOrchid]

I think it's going to be Orlais and Tervinter, all depending on the choices you made in this game. I also think, depending on your choices, you will either play as your warden or hawke and that will determine where you will end up. This would be awesum. Or maybe we will get to play both.

Why would the warden and Hawke be mentioned at the end of the game as disappearing other then these reasons.

In the first game we got to play as a warden who was either elve/human/dwarf. In da2 it's human only. I alos found that DA2 was a bit shorter because of the choice of human only. So I think they are going to give us our warden (If still alive by the end of DAo) and our hawke in DA3, but like I said depending on the choices we made in previous games and what the next story line will have to do with anything.

(i wrote this in another thread.)

[LilyDelyrium]

VenetianLunacy wrote...

I have a feeling that Hawke will join the Warden to fight some ultimate evil, and together they will set things right. And I hope that the game will have a happy ending, for once.

 That's what i'm hoping for...but i'm not optimistic about it at all...

[Darkcyde]

wow there are some truly some well thought out ideas on this forum! well here's my 2 cents.The mage revolt still raging in DA3 is almost a given so let's look at the minor conflicts within. why are ferelden and orlais facing renewed tensions when both leaders of the respective nations seem to be against it my guess based on DAO epilogue and writer info is that the new tensions come from the chantry and the events set in motion in ferelden/orzamar at the end of the blight. the mages being given more freedoms by the leader of ferelden both circle and apostate; couple that with the the unavoidable disruption in lyrium supply/control to the chantry bhelen disrupts it by allowing a circle of magi outside of the chantry's control in orzamar. harrowmont by cutting it off altogether due to isolationist policies not to mention that if the brother burkel and dagna's quest are completed it's even worse. either way ferelden becomes the beacon of freedom in a world torn apart by war an underground railroad of sorts forms and after the exodus of the blight ferelden is flooded with immigrants of all kinds looking for a better way under the banner of a charismatic leader offering a 3rd option to the failings of both chantrys and the qun . Making ferelden some powerful allies and enemies setting the stage for an exalted march against it with at least half of the worlds lyrium supply in the balance, don't know whether kal-sharock trades with the surface. remember Dagna's lyrium research gives the cirle(s) in ferelden and the dwarves of orzammarar a sort of technological advantage one that orlais may be trying to counter by recruiting sandal which i suspect will not go as planned for orlais and sandal will wind up back in ferelden. i believe both hawke and the warden went thru an eluvian and have met with the ancient elves seeking their aid to tip the conflict along with or maybe against morrigan and the old god baby who should be entering adolescence at the time DA2 ends. the silver order will be ferelden's first line of defense trained by the warden's using arms and techniques that come from dagna's research dworkin's explosives research and dwarven engineering possibly w/ sir alec as their general.Now here's my wild guess THE GRIFFON'S AREN'T EXTINCT! the last of them reside in the frozen waste having lost their main advesary and i suspect main food source when the dragon's were nearly wiped out in thedas they adapted to thrive on the monster's of the frozen waste and will soon be rediscovered as they follow the now re emergent dragons into thedas proper. if anyone at bioware happens to read this fell free to use it cause it's all based on what's really your ideas anyway

[RFalcon]

Was Allister the only orgins character in DA2?
I don't have much of an imagination but so the ending was good but waiting for the next game makes it a little disappointing. Wish i had of taken my time playing it now

[Mikozilla]

Nimander wrote...

I am HOPING for a dual plot.

IE: one act you play Hawke, another act you play the Warden, and they meet up in a third/fourth/etc act and you can play whichever you choose. I don't know how viable this is, but it'd be awesome.

As for what, I have no clue. I'm leaning towards Orlais. I hope we don't destroy Tevinter, but then Tevinter isn't as bad as people seem to think. I mean sure, it's bad. But Ferelden has nobles who rape elves and nothing's done till you do. It has nobles who go on killing sprees and nothing's done till you do something. Kirkwall has templars lobotomizing mages and it's more or less swept under the rug. The Qun are basically Buddhist Communist Hindu Borg. None of the cultures are /really/ good.

Tevinter has more 'bad people' on top, but that's pretty normal with a culture as old as it is. Preventing that is difficult without some sort of populist base, and that's not going to work well in a fantasy land.

Before I even played the game, I was telling my friends how badly I wanted a dual plot. Exactly like that. After seeing the ending of DA2? I'm definitely hopeful that this could happen.

[Mikozilla]

RFalcon wrote...

Was Allister the only orgins character in DA2?
I don't have much of an imagination but so the ending was good but waiting for the next game makes it a little disappointing. Wish i had of taken my time playing it now

Alistair, Flemeth, Leliana and Zevran all showed up.  Not to mention Isabella was also a small player in the first game.

[Rykoth]

I don't think Flemeth will be the villain.

I think like Mage vs. Templar, it's gonna be about picking sides. IMO, you'll still have to side with those two. I think DA3 should let you reconsider the choice, now that you see the consequences.

My thought is they might have it so that Flemeth ultimately is the rallying call for mages, while folks rally to the Divine herself for the templars. I think Morrigan will play a key part, and I think Cassandra will play a key part.

Would be kinda cool to see the most badass Mage (Flemeth) fight the head of the entire Chantry (the Divine)

[Crext]

I don't know about DA 3, but for a DA 2 expantion, I bet we actually get a say on who that "tranferable character" will be. Like we did'nt chose Anders, we did'nt chose Orgrim, actually Orgrim was my least favorite character by far, but in this end the mayority chose eider Isabella or Merrill.

Thus that 1 character you picked would make perfectly sence to be carried over in DA 2 "afterlife", where you might even bump into yourself from origin and both Flemeth and the Advisor, thus making more direct connections as for why the Warden and Hawke would share the same fate.


Well, I guess I can make an comment on DA 3 aswell, I see 3 potential places which would be a main part of the story. Orlesia, an share island of Par Vollen, between humans and Qunari, or my main bet the Tevinter Emperium.

The reason for why I bet on the Tevinter part is because Bioware has already made alot of Tevinter buildings and graphics. Basically they could, if they wanted to, use that which they already have at hand, only in a larger scale, to make a complete Tevinter city. Not to mention that with the current development of DA 2 mages got alot more into focus, which would logically make the Tevinter Emperium more influencal as they are but the only place in Thedas where mages are openly accepted. However, up until now standing with the mages has basically been the "fight for freedom", yet in Tevinter the mages are the slave keepers, which again makes for alot of fine storyplots.

[Crext]

Mikozilla wrote...

RFalcon wrote...

Was Allister the only orgins character in DA2?
I don't have much of an imagination but so the ending was good but waiting for the next game makes it a little disappointing. Wish i had of taken my time playing it now

Alistair, Flemeth, Leliana and Zevran all showed up.  Not to mention Isabella was also a small player in the first game.

Where? I can't remember her? Was she the fighter at the bar?

[NvVanity]

My ideas.

1. Templar vs Mage war escalating.
2. Qunari return to take advantage of the war to take over.
3. Blights just love happening during times of chaos. 6th Blight baby!
4. Grey Wardens confused on what to do with the Warden Commander missing.
5. Seekers team up with Wardens to find the WC and Hawke.
6. Enchantment!
7. Takes place in Orlais.

[MadCat221]

Everyone gains mage powers once whatever prophecy Sandal rambled on about comes true.

[arathor_87]

I think we will get a smaller expansion pack in the same sinze as Awakening when you play as a seeker to find Hawke.

DA3 will be about the grey wardens since there are rumours saying there is a new blight coming, and the mages vs warden conflict. This time the blight strikes harder and in more countrys than before since the circle and templars have their own war, and the seekers will play a big part in this.

Modifié par arathor_87, 18 mars 2011 - 05:08 .