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[erynnar]

VioletTheirin wrote...

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Blood balloons!!! 

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

erynnar wrote...

VioletTheirin wrote...

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Blood balloons!!! 

So true, sadly no one told the Free Marchers that eating ten pounds of Pop Rocks and Drinking two litres of soda before going to battle was a bad idea.

[Night Prowler76]

Elton John is dead wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

But come on. We all know Skyrim has already failed. Graphics can't save its terrible gameplay and who's to say The Witcher 2 won't be any different?

Huh? I hope that was that a joke? Skyrim won't even be released until November. I don't understand how anyone can claim that the gameplay will be terrible, since no one has played the game yet.

Well look at Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3. Nuff said.

Yes look at them, they are all rated higher than DA2...what was your point again? Ah yes, you are a BioDrone, thats right.

[KoStA_SWE]

I made it for lulz

[Xanfaus]

Elton John is dead wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Oh and let's keep the spoilers out of this thread. You know...about Anders and The Chantry?

You mean the part where Anders joins the Chantry, and helps mage-kind out?

No. I mean the part where Anders becomes the first mage templar and kills all mages in Kirkwall and then himself because he hates mages with a passion and thus hates himself. As he kills himself, he smiles claiming victory.

This scene and the one before that where Anders and Meredith professed their undying love for Hawke and then for each other was by far the highlights of Act 3.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I actually enjoy Fallout 3, but did not like Oblivion. Skyrim is looking interesting to me so far, it seems they are learning from a few mistakes. Total level scaling is removed, the skill system is more dynamic and fluid and hopefully the cities will seem more alive than the static scenes of DA 2. Roleplay and depth of story has never been the strong point of Bethesda games, but at least their environments look far more lived in than Kirkwall or Denerim. Either way, we'll have to wait to see if Skyrim lives up to it's promises or not, you can't say a game is going to bad until it is actually released. Anyway, let's get back to the parodies in the posters.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Xanfaus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Oh and let's keep the spoilers out of this thread. You know...about Anders and The Chantry?

You mean the part where Anders joins the Chantry, and helps mage-kind out?

No. I mean the part where Anders becomes the first mage templar and kills all mages in Kirkwall and then himself because he hates mages with a passion and thus hates himself. As he kills himself, he smiles claiming victory.

This scene and the one before that where Anders and Meredith professed their undying love for Hawke and then for each other was by far the highlights of Act 3.

To be honest I'm surprised this entire thread hadn't been moved to the Spoilers section AGES ago.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Sabriana wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...



Since there are no genlocks or sharlocks in DA2 to my knowledge, I guess this is the last one

I never came close enough with Hawke to really look at them. Boy am I glad about that. I'd probably have cracked a rib falling off my chair in a fit of hysterical laughter.

You don't see many in DA2, so I had to try and get a good combat shot (it was harder getting the DAO one). Their hands look WEIRD, btw, like their fingers are bendy bananas.

And yes, they look hilarious--not scary at all. The DAO ones...they at least looked intelligent. >.<
I appreciate the updated graphics of DA2, but the art design left something to be desired in some places...

EDIT: I don't mind the elf ears--why couldn't their be Sharlock Emissaries, I guess? But the gimp face-wear and permanently protruding tongue? >.<

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 08 avril 2011 - 12:16 .

[Lord_Valandil]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

And yes, they look hilarious--not scary at all. The DAO ones...they at least looked intelligent. >.<

Yup.
Ever since I saw the concept art I thought the new emissaries looked retarded.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

But come on. We all know Skyrim has already failed. Graphics can't save its terrible gameplay and who's to say The Witcher 2 won't be any different?

Huh? I hope that was that a joke? Skyrim won't even be released until November. I don't understand how anyone can claim that the gameplay will be terrible, since no one has played the game yet.

Well look at Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3. Nuff said.

Yes look at them, they are all rated higher than DA2...what was your point again? Ah yes, you are a BioDrone, thats right.

Higher rated? Where? I can easily provide reviews and sites where these games get bashed. If I recall, Oblivion was destroyed on the official Bethesda forums because it wasn't like Morrowind. Remind you of something? Everyone who recommends Oblivion always recommends mods because Oblivion is flawed without them and that says it all really. Those DA2 metacritic reviews are faked and everyone with intelligence knows that. They were made within one day of the release of DA2 which says it all really so believe what you want. I know there are people who hate DA2 but I know many wouldn't give 1 star to it. 1 star suggests unplayable, bugged and terrible in all areas and so bad that you can't play pass the prologue. Either "classic" RPG fans just fail at reviewing games and are childish when doing so or they are just troll reviews as evidence suggests.

Also, unlike DA2, the three games above are packed full of game-ending bugs whereas DA2 only has one that is rare to encounter.

I'm no Bioware drone, before you come to pathetic conclusions based on ignorance, check my profile. Just because I liked DA2 (as do other people) doesn't mean I don't think improvements could have been made. If I'm a Biodrone then I guess you're a Bethesdrone.

Oh and I hate Mass Effect 1 and Jade Empire. So nope. Pretty sure I'm no Biodrone. 

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 08 avril 2011 - 12:49 .

[Boiny Bunny]

^ lol, are you serious?

DA2 is packed with bugs. Briefly, some examples: Crashes often with ATI card. Incredible performance issues with NVIDIA cards. Game breaking bugs with Isabela/Sebastian friendship bugs (more or less means you cannot use these two as party members if you want to be friends with them).

The DA2 metacritic scores have some troll 0/10 AND some troll 10/10 scores in them.

Generally, these types of scores balance one another out.

The point is, a bunch of people out there have given the game terrible feedback, and for good reason. Instead of just looking at the numbers and regarding everything below a 9 as a 'troll review', try reading them, and you'll see that many make very valid points.

The game certainly doesn't deserve a metacritic user score as low as it has, but it certainly doesn't deserve a critic score as high as it has. 94% from PC gamer? What a load of absolute trash. Looking back, reading their review now, and playing the game - I wonder if they had even played the game when they published that review, or if EA just gave them the review already written and told them to publish it.

Most impressive attempt ever seen in a game to make choices matter? WHAT? More like least impressive. Almost none of the choices you make in this game do anything at all. KOTOR and DA:O for example, both had far more choices with implications.

So in summary, DA2 has:

A bunch of troll critic reviews (from the likes of PCGamer, IGN, Gamespot, etc.)

A bunch of troll user reviews (plenty of 10/10's and 0/10's and other numbers not deserved)

In truth, lies somewhere in the middle. The metacritic score would probably be a 6 or 7 if you removed all of the trashing/boosting.

Modifié par Boiny Bunny, 08 avril 2011 - 12:56 .

[neppakyo]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

^ lol, are you serious?

DA2 is packed with bugs. Briefly, some examples: Crashes often with ATI card. Incredible performance issues with NVIDIA cards. Game breaking bugs with Isabela/Sebastian friendship bugs (more or less means you cannot use these two as party members if you want to be friends with them).

The DA2 metacritic scores have some troll 0/10 AND some troll 10/10 scores in them.

Generally, these types of scores balance one another out.

The point is, a bunch of people out there have given the game terrible feedback, and for good reason. Instead of just looking at the numbers and regarding everything below a 9 as a 'troll review', try reading them, and you'll see that many make very valid points.

The game certainly doesn't deserve a metacritic user score as low as it has, but it certainly doesn't deserve a critic score as high as it has. 94% from PC gamer? What a load of absolute trash. Looking back, reading their review now, and playing the game - I wonder if they had even played the game when they published that review, or if EA just gave them the review already written and told them to publish it.

Most impressive attempt ever seen in a game to make choices matter? WHAT? More like least impressive. Almost none of the choices you make in this game do anything at all. KOTOR and DA:O for example, both had far more choices with implications.

So in summary, DA2 has:

A bunch of troll critic reviews (from the likes of PCGamer, IGN, Gamespot, etc.)

A bunch of troll user reviews (plenty of 10/10's and 0/10's and other numbers not deserved)

In truth, lies somewhere in the middle. The metacritic score would probably be a 6 or 7 if you removed all of the trashing/boosting.

*applauds* Very well said, and some good points. Basically, read between the lines?

[Eternal Phoenix]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

^ lol, are you serious?

DA2 is packed with bugs. Briefly, some examples: Crashes often with ATI card. Incredible performance issues with NVIDIA cards. Game breaking bugs with Isabela/Sebastian friendship bugs (more or less means you cannot use these two as party members if you want to be friends with them).

The DA2 metacritic scores have some troll 0/10 AND some troll 10/10 scores in them.

Generally, these types of scores balance one another out.

The point is, a bunch of people out there have given the game terrible feedback, and for good reason. Instead of just looking at the numbers and regarding everything below a 9 as a 'troll review', try reading them, and you'll see that many make very valid points.

The game certainly doesn't deserve a metacritic user score as low as it has, but it certainly doesn't deserve a critic score as high as it has. 94% from PC gamer? What a load of absolute trash. Looking back, reading their review now, and playing the game - I wonder if they had even played the game when they published that review, or if EA just gave them the review already written and told them to publish it.

Most impressive attempt ever seen in a game to make choices matter? WHAT? More like least impressive. Almost none of the choices you make in this game do anything at all. KOTOR and DA:O for example, both had far more choices with implications.

So in summary, DA2 has:

A bunch of troll critic reviews (from the likes of PCGamer, IGN, Gamespot, etc.)

A bunch of troll user reviews (plenty of 10/10's and 0/10's and other numbers not deserved)

In truth, lies somewhere in the middle. The metacritic score would probably be a 6 or 7 if you removed all of the trashing/boosting.

I actually give the game an 8. Don't say I conclude all reviews belong 9 are troll reviews (your logic fails here). I clearly said the 1 star reviews are troll reviews and none make valid points. Graphic cards crashing aren't actually bugs but rather the game creating an error with these cards. You claim DA2 has "game breaking bugs" but listed one which can be avoided anyway be removing them from your party.

A game breaking bug is where you cannot progress onward into the story or where your save becomes corrupted. As far as I have heard, DA2 has one that is very rare and maybe even that again was someone believing it was a game breaking bug when it's just a companion bug that can once again be avoided by not having said companions as party members.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 08 avril 2011 - 01:05 .

[Lord_Valandil]

Stop derailing the thread. Pretty please?

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 08 avril 2011 - 01:13 .

[Boiny Bunny]

^ The bugs ARE game breaking if you are playing on a 360 or PS3 (i.e. you don't have access to the console or save editors).

Plently of players have (being unaware of the bugs), become friends with Isabela and used her alot, to realise by some point half way into Act 2 that their Hawke attacks once per 40 seconds because their attack speed modifier is now permanantly stuck at -95%. Players in this situation cannot progress any further. They have to restart the entire game and make sure they don't befriend Isabela at all, or never use her in their party.

To me, that constitutes a game breaking bug.

True, it's not of the magnitude of literally locking up a main quest that you cannot progress without doing - but it has forced many players to have to restart the entire game (or give up on it entirely).

Many 1 star reviews make valid points if you bother to read them - they just tend to overreact though and take off too many points. Likewise, a good deal of 9/10 and 10/10 reviews tend to simply utterly ignore the bugs and other problems with the game, and give it more than it deserves.

The graphics cards crashing ARE bugs in the game. If Bioware had spent a little more time testing the game on multiple systems and optimised their own code a bit more, we wouldn't have the problems that we do.

Many of them are caused by the High Textures pack - which had 0 days of testing time, due to them actually finishing it after the game had gone gold, and releasing it as a download consequently.

[LeBurns]

The perfect Templar

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Dang it.  Someone will need to fix the link for me. 

Modifié par LeBurns, 08 avril 2011 - 01:25 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

^ The bugs ARE game breaking if you are playing on a 360 or PS3 (i.e. you don't have access to the console or save editors).

Plently of players have (being unaware of the bugs), become friends with Isabela and used her alot, to realise by some point half way into Act 2 that their Hawke attacks once per 40 seconds because their attack speed modifier is now permanantly stuck at -95%. Players in this situation cannot progress any further. They have to restart the entire game and make sure they don't befriend Isabela at all, or never use her in their party.

To me, that constitutes a game breaking bug.

True, it's not of the magnitude of literally locking up a main quest that you cannot progress without doing - but it has forced many players to have to restart the entire game (or give up on it entirely).

Many 1 star reviews make valid points if you bother to read them - they just tend to overreact though and take off too many points. Likewise, a good deal of 9/10 and 10/10 reviews tend to simply utterly ignore the bugs and other problems with the game, and give it more than it deserves.

The graphics cards crashing ARE bugs in the game. If Bioware had spent a little more time testing the game on multiple systems and optimised their own code a bit more, we wouldn't have the problems that we do.

Many of them are caused by the High Textures pack - which had 0 days of testing time, due to them actually finishing it after the game had gone gold, and releasing it as a download consequently.

There's a difference between bugs and errors. The friendship bugs are bugs in the software (DA2). Graphics card crashing are just errors because DA2 works incorrectly on them.

But again, I've played through twice and haven't crossed these bugs. Few have though but with the games I mentioned, nearly everyone experienced these bugs. There's no comparison after that. That's all I was saying and I don't think DA2 deserves a 10 score but it no ways deserves 1.

LeBurns wrote...

The perfect Templar



Dang it.  Someone will need to fix the link for me. 

Done.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 08 avril 2011 - 01:25 .

[LeBurns]

Thanks and Cheers!

[ransompendragon]

Lord_Valandil wrote...



My first try.

I applaud you, sir.

This is a picture of a game breaking bug! Oh, it was by design? And how does that work out storywise??? Oh, I am not playing an RPG I am playing Call Of Dragon Effect. Awesome!!

Yes, I am bitter. Very, very bitter.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I've never seen this bug, was it a game crash at a cutscene or something?

[neppakyo]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

I've never seen this bug, was it a game crash at a cutscene or something?

Its where the waves come from. Magically born in the skies, and parachute down. Whoops! Here comes thug gang #265, prepare for battle!

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Oh, I certainly saw the waves, the picture below the text is a bit blurry so I wasn't sure what it was. It's a good poster though, thanks for pointing that out. The combat in DA 2 is deffinitely one of it's sore points for me from animations to the magical appearing waves.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

That doesn't look like a bug...it looks more like part of a cutscene where a Templar is blasted off the Gallow steps. I have a similar motivational posted in the thread, albeit with a closer view of the Templar as he's descending.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Ah, thanks for clarifying Shadow of Light Dragon.

[Helen0rz]

naughty99 wrote...

Helen0rz wrote...

ChengChung wrote...

^This

ahhh...yess...I recall looking for Kirkwall on that giant map. took me a while to find it

It's interesting to see the visual comparison.

Ultimately, however, since the DA series are not an open-world games, DA2 could potentially take place in a single city with combined area maps just as large as a game like DAO that takes place across different parts of Ferelden.   

You know what Kirkwall city map reminded me? Denerim.

Ferelden is a nation; Kirkwall is a city.

so....DA3 will take place in a town like RedCliff?