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[Kinaori]

Yeah, pillar hump/run, wait for his misaimed charge move, hit him with whatever slows/CCs you have (he resists these frequently but they sometimes stick), then DoTs and whatever single target spells you have. If you mistime it after his charge don't try to just slip something in, he might do his chain of doom attack It took me forever, he healed at least a couple times. Not a fun fight at all.

[Murtallica]

My group died in about 30 seconds on normal, so I was the only one left as a mage and found out if you kill him, you don't have to worry about the others. He is also VERY weak against frost damage.

[DeathStride]

Maria Caliban wrote...

When Varric tells his epic tale of my duel with the Arishok, do you think he'll include the part where my spirit healer mage ran like a b*tch from the dude for about a half-hour, slowly whittling away at his strength?

I felt bad for the Arishok. It's probably not the death he'd hoped for.

Ditto.  It definitely reinforced the "Hawke is a badass" story arc when my male mage Hawke was being chased around the two pillars in figure 8's screaming like a little girl.

Modifié par DeathStride, 16 mars 2011 - 11:26 .

[Hassohappa]

There are a couple of items you can craft for this fight that make it a great deal easier. One is a potion that revives you when you die, which lets you survive getting impaled if you're unlucky. The other is the combustion grenade, which is a guaranteed stun that lasts somewhere around 8 seconds. Kite the Arishok, slow him with your frost spells and unload on him with anything else you have while he's slowed/frozen. Don't waste any combustion grenades while you're doing this, but the second he shoves his sword into the ground to drink a health pot hit him with the grenade to interrupt him.

For me at least after this he didn't try to heal again, if you're paranoid you could avoid using your frost bolt spell for a minute to let your grenade cool down and hit him with a frost bolt if he is going to drink a pot. If you don't have any grenades and aren't willing to load an old save to make them you could try holding your frost bolt in reserve to interrupt heals, but that will make damaging him a lot more difficult.

[the rocan]

I'm not sure why you are having so much trouble with this. I play a mage on normal and was easily able to kill him with the help of dog. Sure it took like ten minutes but he never came close to killing me. I've not experienced the instakill thing you are describing though. Are you making sure to doge his charge at your character? He gives a decent amount of warning before his charge.

My strategy was :
Summon Dog - Freeze - pummel with spells - run around dodging attacks - cast freezing spell when timer cooldown was up and such over and over until victory. Casting heal and using potions on myself as needed.

[Nathan Redgrave]

The charge move is the exact opposite of unavoidable. It's telegraphed and you can dodge it. Just don't button-mash, as being stuck in attack animations often removes the chance to avoid it.

Anyway, just dodge to the side. Simple.

I haven't played the duel on normal, though. My mage playthrough was a Casual-mode run simply because I wanted to go through the game quickly and see what I could do with some different dialogue and romance choices.

[bebishenron]

all i can say was i was an elemental mage, took anders and used him to heal / revive, aveline and varric. its also helpful if you have your mutt tag along too.
i sent anders up to one side out of the way so he can do his thing with as little interuption as possible. Try and take out the mages first followed by any sten. I used the lightening and frost spells as much as possible as the lightening can cover a larger area. all i then done was run away screaming through the lightning (meaning most of them come chasing after me causing them damage) then frost him as much as possible. it took me 2 attempts after he caned me the first time in about 30 seconds!

[Rumtruffle]

i thought this fight was ridiculous in the amount of damge the guy could soak up, and then would suddenly heal himself.

i was a warrior with 30 strength and constitution (iirc) and a blooming great two handed sword and i couldnt even see his health bar diminishing as i blasted him with stamina crushing attacks.

i died twice against him, when i had little health and he used that horrible 'stab me though the guts and lift me in the air' move.
in the end i had to resort to really boring run away and lengthy, attack once and run away tactics.

i cant imagine this guy is going to be very fun using a rogue or a mage. ill probably drop to casual difficulty for that fight.


edit - what i dont understand is.... some people are responding about using other characters to heal etc......... its a duel. you are on your own, at least i was???

Modifié par Rumtruffle, 17 mars 2011 - 09:23 .

[CruserBoii]

Force Mage is like the worst spec. for boss fights, since it's mainly for crowd controlling. The fight was insanely hard for me since I had the arcane tree filled out and force mage almost completed. Winters Grasp, Crushing Prison, Gravitic Ring, and Dog were the only things that helped me. Fist of the Maker sort of helped, but he doesn't get stunned by it, and it does so little damage.

[HolyJellyfish]

As a mage, I've found the secret to the Arishok battle is to Ice, Cold Cone, Paralyze, and stone him to death. It slows him down, freezes him in place, and is incredibly helpful. Running around in circles and waiting for him to bamf into a wall also helps.

[AlexXIV]

I also used the kiting thing and the fact that if you are a mage you can slow him with the ice spell. In which case you can just walk around him and hit him a couple of times from behind when he attacks. The pillars are excellent to make him use up his special move so you can go hit him a couple of times. But to be honest it took forever to kill him, he has millions of hitpoints and even drinks a health potion twice.

[Thestral]

Yeah... I ran in circles, kiting and waiting on him to charge into walls... sure took a while. - . -

[b0ksah]

Rumtruffle wrote...

i thought this fight was ridiculous in the amount of damge the guy could soak up, and then would suddenly heal himself.

i was a warrior with 30 strength and constitution (iirc) and a blooming great two handed sword and i couldnt even see his health bar diminishing as i blasted him with stamina crushing attacks.

i died twice against him, when i had little health and he used that horrible 'stab me though the guts and lift me in the air' move.
in the end i had to resort to really boring run away and lengthy, attack once and run away tactics.

i cant imagine this guy is going to be very fun using a rogue or a mage. ill probably drop to casual difficulty for that fight.


edit - what i dont understand is.... some people are responding about using other characters to heal etc......... its a duel. you are on your own, at least i was???

That is if you refuse to Duel .. then they attack the whole party instead.

I have dueled him twice now .. once as Rogue and once as Warrior on normal and yes ..only way to beat him is to dance the dance "The 10000 papercuts" .. took longer with my Warrior than with my Rogue... and I guess a ice speced Mage will take him down in 10 mins .. my warrior duel took 20 mins (well more like an hour .. had to pause the fight and make dinner in the middle of it) ... it is really the most fustering battle in the game. My Warrior was used to to get buffed by Heroic Aura and Haste .. lucky I had Second Wind ...
I'll try with bombs next time

Modifié par b0ksah, 17 mars 2011 - 10:03 .

[Tamyn]

Maria Caliban wrote...

When Varric tells his epic tale of my duel with the Arishok, do you think he'll include the part where my spirit healer mage ran like a b*tch from the dude for about a half-hour, slowly whittling away at his strength?

I felt bad for the Arishok. It's probably not the death he'd hoped for.

I thought the same thing actually.

I didn't even have any cold spells. I ended up doing figure eights around the columns while trying to lure him through my electrical storms.

[Tainan7509]

my 2h warrior + reaver + potion(maybe 3 or 4) = easy win. Just attack him after he does that stupid charge. and don't forget to summon your dog that help little. Overall, i think he is not too difficult to deal with in hard mode.

[inquartata02]

 The Arishok will totally fall for the decoy if you're a rogue and you have that ability. I found this out after I couldn't beat him one-on-one with my non-decoy specced rogue and had to go full-party on him. (Aveline eventually tanked him by chipping away in teeny, tiny increments while kiting and quaffing potions. Took forever.) Much shouting and frustration was had. Meanwhile, my husband gleefully declared on his playthrough that the Arishok battle was one of the easiest ever due to Decoy. <_<

I tried again using Decoy. Not only did the Arishok fall for it, but once the Decoy ran out and I started kiting, he ran straight into a pillar and stood there for quite a while whereupon my rogue tore him up one side and down the other. 

As for a mage duel... I don't know. That scares me. 

[Moondoggie]

The only thing you can do as a mage is literally run around until he stuns himself and keep shooting at him and freezing him with anything you have. Taking him on in a straight fight is a quick death. I dread the idea of fighting him as a warrior because all of his attacks seem to knock you down so how you are supposed to slash at him i don't know.

[hismastersvoice]

I've beaten him with my 2hander with outdated armor, 5 health potions and 6 stamina droughts. Thank god for Devour...

He telegraphs most of his hard attacks so a quick side step and a flank attack usually do the job.

[Scottish TaZeR]

Em... Blood/Debuff with hold spells. Mage Solo on Normal found him rather easy... I think he hit me once :|

Edit: Oh I forgot I used my hound near the end xD

Modifié par Scottish TaZeR, 17 mars 2011 - 11:27 .

[D.Shepard]

Just a question: In order to continue the romance with Isabela is it  necessary to duel the Arishok or can I decide to fight it with my entire party?

[whitless256]

Oh yeah, I was yelling "cheater!" at him several times when I was too slow to dodge his impaling attack.

After several hours of learning the fight and experimentation on my rogue, I got a good rhythm. I didn't do as much kiting as some folks seemed to (though I did my fair share while waiting for potion cool downs). Instead I got into a fancy dodging game. It actually LOOKED fairly impressive even if it wasn't. Basically the Arishok is slow as heck. I simply circled him, hit 3 times from behind then circled again in anticipation of his next attack. This allowed me to beat him down with simple autoattacks until his first potion quaff.

He doesn't start using the impaling move or the aoe whirlwind type move until after his first potion, so you can feel fairly safe untli then. He stops using potions once you get him below 50%, though he likes to take one just before you get him to 50%... probably just to hear me cuss at him.

Dog helps, but I ended up doing most of the work without him. Sadly most of my rogue cc abilities were useless. He shrugged off stuns like nobody's business. However, the MOST useful skill was fatiguing fog. This turned his already slow attacks into ridiculously slow attacks. The only problem I had with that was getting killed by my own overconfidence as I forgot to dodge.

The long and short of it... it took me countless tries and lots of frustration but I felt damn good when I finally got him. Don't give up!

[StingingVelvet]

I did the party battle so I cannot say (that was easy) but I have seen mages duel him on youtube and they mainly used any spell that stopped him from attacking. Winter's grasp is a great one.

[sugasugaki]

 Don't think this has been mentioned, but it's really easy to beat Arishok as a 2h warrior.

When you're running around the pillar, you can still hit him *through* the pillar when he's on the opposite end. This slows him down, and sometimes he takes awhile to get around, so you can get a good 5-7 hits on him. He won't try swinging unless you're in his line of sight, so you can just keep doing this, and barely ever get in harm's way. I quaffed 2 health potions just to be safe, but could've been done with using none. Only used specials when he did the charge attack. Since I'm playing on PC, I just hit the "R" button to swing at him. Yeah it's cheating, but oh well =P He did use a potion twice, which really annoyed me.

[mione]

I did his battle last night as a mage finally. I ran around in this 8 formation as my dog nip at the Arishok butt for 40 mins <.< good times!

[vigna]

You can stun him with a buffed pommel strike then hack away. Then you need to run to use potions. repeat, etc.