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[Yalision]

   I love the Champion armor for mage Hawke. In fact, despite being less powerful than Origins, I freaking love the mage in general. I feel powerful and agile with a staff, and it asserts the belief that my mage can and will defend himself in close quarters combat. That said, why does he have to wear robes?

  There are a couple of good reasons why this not only fails to make sense, but also disppoints. Given the awesomeness that is the Champion's armor for the mages, why follow the cliche that all mages have to wear robes?

   1. I'm a freaking apostate. In a town known as the center of Templar power in the eastern Free Marches, and with elevating tenstions between mages and templars (nearly to the point of holy war), you would assume walking around the city dressed in mage robes and a staff might be a little incriminating.

   2. You're not a circle mage. You don't actively (or it is not mentioned in any way at all during the 10 years you spend in the city) study magic. Why do you wear mage robes? Robes just aren't practical for the situations Hawke constantly finds himself in. Can you imagine fighting in close quarters dressed in robes, in the thick of battle with robes and warriors rushing at you from all sides? You need to be able to get around and defend yourself without being encumbered by layers of belts and drapings. Even Anders gets it!


   What would be wrong with being original and following suit with what you did with the Champion's armor? I personally would find it very cool and satisfying to be able to wear enchanted light leather armor that continues to leave the impression that my mage means business and isn't afraid to get into the thick of it. I don't mean to say that I think mages should have the benefits of similar protection as rogues, but that aesthetically it would not only make more sense for the Champion, but it would also satisfy players like myself who'd rather look like a hero than someone who spends his time locked away in the Circle.

   I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoy looking like Gandalf or Merlin, but with a game whose catchphrase is "Think like a general, fight like a spartan", I think they nailed the mage in every way except for all the accursed robes throughout the earlier portion of the game.

   In short, can mage Hawke get more leather-looking armor? I love the power I feel like I have as a mage ( I couldn't stand being mage in Origins, and I think quite a few people loved the mage because Arcane Warrior would allow them to get out of those robes in the first place), but I find the lack or awesome armor frustrating. Be original and keep innovating the attire of mages and I'll be even happier with Dragon Age 2 and its future content.

:happy:

[Xrissie]

My mage Hawke wears the blood dragon armor.

[The Minority]

Because you can go commando in robes.

Armor chafes.

[Dominus]

Because I don't want to change after putting on my bathrobe.

[DarthKaldriss]

Could be worse they could make you wear pointy hats..

[Cutlass Jack]

I believe Anders said it best in Awakening. The templars watch you very closely, so its easy to hoist the robe up and have a quickie with your fellow mages when they aren't looking...


Gameplay wise you can wear whatever you want. There are no class restrictions on armor. Only stat restrictions. You just need to allocate your stats in such a way to wear it. Just doing so will hurt your attack stats. Thats the choice you make.

I should also point out the pirate robes you pick up in Act 2 are in rogue style and look great.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 16 mars 2011 - 09:23 .

[Jamesnew2]

DarthKaldriss wrote...

Could be worse they could make you wear pointy hats..

And ginger with the name Ron weasley..... Too soon? ahh anyway i think this will be addresed in DA3 but please put this in the thread constructive criticism. Its where your issues are most likely to be read. Its 2nd topic down and it was made sticky and bioware have stated many a time they are reading criticisms coming into that thread. AS LONG AS ITS CONSTRUCTIVE!

[B3taMaxxx]

This is why I don't play a male mage.................................

And I guess along the same lines; why not allow us to equip whatever armor we want barring strength requirements? I think most people can determine which armor is best suited for their build, no?

[Si-Shen]

Part of it is tradition, the other part, RP aspects, leather actually restricts movement more then robes, and mages tend to require maximum movemt to cast. Frankly armored mages would just blend in and be forgotten, they need to stand out and robes make them stand out. Soft and squishy with a big magical kick is a mage by definition.

[GammaRayJim]

I agree wholeheartedly I think the mage robes are the silliest things I have ever seen. I fear doing a mage playthrough and have to watch Hawke run around dressed only in a bathrobe...aaaarrrrrgggghhhh.

[Cutlass Jack]

GammaRayJim wrote...

I agree wholeheartedly I think the mage robes are the silliest things I have ever seen. I fear doing a mage playthrough and have to watch Hawke run around dressed only in a bathrobe...aaaarrrrrgggghhhh.

I haven't worn a robe yet on my mage playthrough. *shrug*

[mmmmmmPie]

Why cant warriors dual wield?

[Cuthlan]

Cutlass Jack wrote...


Gameplay wise you can wear whatever you want. There are no class restrictions on armor. Only stat restrictions. You just need to allocate your stats in such a way to wear it. Just doing so will hurt your attack stats. Thats the choice you make.

Exactly. You don't HAVE to wear robes. You just have to meet the stat requirements for armors just like everyone else.

[Veex]

Put some points into strength or dexterity. Wear leather or plate, problem solved.

[Athro]

There is a pretty awesome "robe" called Robe of the Pirate or something like that - it's a leather jerkin with a big black pirate shirt and pants. It's not excellent, but it is good and causes enemies to drop more money than normal. I used it throughout all of Act 2 because I agree - the robes are kind of naff.

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[Yalision]

Cuthlan wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...


Gameplay wise you can wear whatever you want. There are no class restrictions on armor. Only stat restrictions. You just need to allocate your stats in such a way to wear it. Just doing so will hurt your attack stats. Thats the choice you make.

Exactly. You don't HAVE to wear robes. You just have to meet the stat requirements for armors just like everyone else.

These kind of comments seem to be dodging the question, however. Aside for tradition and deviation from other PRG archetypes, I don't see any reason why mages can't be catered to specifically. It's a given that a character can wear whatever as long as they meet the stat requirements, but why bother if that armor isn't beneficial.. even if it looks good.

[Braag]

It seems as it's a rule or something that mages must wear robes. Honestly I'd love to see a RPG that gives them some variety when it comes to clothing/armor. One of the reasons I love the Mage Champion armor so much.

[Cutlass Jack]

Yalision wrote...

These kind of comments seem to be dodging the question, however. Aside for tradition and deviation from other PRG archetypes, I don't see any reason why mages can't be catered to specifically. It's a given that a character can wear whatever as long as they meet the stat requirements, but why bother if that armor isn't beneficial.. even if it looks good.

Not really dodging. If you want to wear something that's armor you need to qualify for it. But The fact is, the game did put in mage armor that was not robe styles too. The style you start the game in looke like more rogue armor than anything else. As was the suit you get working for smugglers/mercs, the Pirate robes, the champion armor and more. And they gave staves that looked more like bladed weapons for extra cool factor.

I thought they did a pretty nice job of catering to mages gearwise. Sure there were robes. But not everything was a robe. And you could expand your option with a little stat adjustment.

[B3taMaxxx]

I can understand 'strength' requirements, but when has someone needed 'cunning' to slip on a pair of jeans?

[Sturm.B]

It's quite comfy as the drunk guy in the hanged man says

[henkez3]

That mages need clothes that doesn't restrict movement is ridiculous. why would rogues and warriors, who do nothing (almost, archer don't i guess) but fight in melee combat wear armor that would restrict their very ability to fight?

[Deylar]

But look at the outfit you start with while talking to Bartrahn. You're in a pair of pants and a shirt.

Couldn't they have made robes or pair of pants and shirt outfits?

I personally like pants and shirt, rather than robes.

[lx_theo]

Check out the "Mage Goods" store in the Gallows. I found some nice mage armor later on there.

[Conduit0]

Mage robe ares as tired of a fantasy trope as short skinny elves and its not going away any time soon sadly. I think the problem here is that the Chaimpion's Armor just reminds of how tired a trope it is and realize that it really doesn't have to be that way and that mages can actually have some kickass looking gear instead of looking like they're wondering through a battlefield in their bathrobe.

[Deylar]

Conduit0 wrote...
Mage robe ares as tired of a fantasy trope as short skinny elves and its not going away any time soon sadly. I think the problem here is that the Chaimpion's Armor just reminds of how tired a trope it is and realize that it really doesn't have to be that way and that mages can actually have some kickass looking gear instead of looking like they're wondering through a battlefield in their bathrobe.

If you ever played Fable 3.

I liked the Wizards outfit.

Because to me it looked like a traveler, someone who travels. I love the rugged look and everything. And it had pants. I mean pants and a shirt.

And then a cloak. Which is kind of cool.

http://images.wikia.com/fable/images/3/3c/Men's_Magic_Suit.png

I wouldn't have minded something like that.

I like my mages in pants and shirt. And maybe add like a cape or a coat or something.