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[JrayM16]

Ashr4m wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Meh, prices are not relative to content. That's not how it works. You won't see me complaining about the price of a DVD for a 1 hour movie being the same as that of a 3 hour movie.

But honestly, dont you think that this is rather strange?

No, I judge worth on my overall enjoyment of something, not measuring content.

[OSUfan12121]

How can you make any assumptions without playing the game therefore everything you say is null and void.

[Falls Edge]

My own experience with the game makes me wonder if any reviewers actually played the game, I'm either extremely unlucky or the reviewers did not use anders, did not speak to Merill in the second and third acts, played on casual,did not make friends with Isabel and sebastion, did not check their quest log or do the 6 currently glitched quests in the game.
But they have a limited amount of time to play before they release a review so I can see why they'd rush through the game instead of doing these things.

Modifié par Falls Edge, 16 mars 2011 - 10:34 .

[Gosford]

The 46 hours I poured into my playthrough of Dragon Age 2 more than justified the $50 I spent on it.  I enjoyed the game thoroughly and I can't wait for more content.  I hope there's an Awakenings-style expansion pack.

[DieHigh2012]

Falls Edge wrote...

My own experience with the game makes me wonder if any reviewers actually played the game, I'm either extremely unlucky or the reviewers did not use anders, did not speak to Merill in the second and third acts, played on casual,did not make friends with Isabel and sebastion, did not check their quest log or do the 6 currently glitched quests in the game.
But they have a limited amount of time to play before they release a review so I can see why they'd rush through the game instead of doing these things.

You haven't played the game have you?

[Cyanide Disaster]

Personally, on the replayability thing.. I find DA2 much more replayable than DA:O for the fact that I have the TIME to play 40 some hours of a game and get it done between work and social stuff without having 80 hours of stuff already covered.
And no, I'm not another body of this Bioware defense army.
DA2 had flaws, all games have flaws. Yes, Bioware/EA may have made a few mistakes with marketing, but this is why they have forums, to hear that we (the consumer) are displeased, but attacking people who liked the game doesn't really help.
At the same time.. you didn't actually play the game, so you can't really form a complete list of it's faults. I've played it three times already and yeah, I could write a list too, but it's all already been said, and knowing Bioware checks these places, they're probably workin' on it.

[lx_theo]

Ashr4m wrote...

The public relations? Yeah, you'll see stuff liek that from every company with a half-decent stock price or whatever it involves. Expecting a business to be making moves for the good of the public is a bit naive in itself

Well i dont thinks so, because moves for the good of the public are most likely good for the company anyhow. Not to mention that good PR damage control should be something every decent company should have.

Rarely does that happen. Lookm at Microsoft. Their Windows 7 advertising compaign consisted of talking about "new" features that were already in use in other computers many places.

The best way to make money is to eitehr build a loyal fanbase and do exactly what they want or manipulate the buyers into otehr things. Bioware is... unfortunately ina  transition period it seems. The latter of the two is the best way easily for bigger businesses. Bioware being part of EA, their practices are starting to mirror that to some effect. Which is unforunate.

The game isn't bad though, which is why I say transition. They still make good games. they haven't sold out at all. they are getting a bit more into big business.

[Falls Edge]

Okay, when you use Ander's revival spell do your characters start to heal themselves infinitely? because mine do, if you 'pull' an encounter and some of the monsters don't aggro if you resume to fight the rest of the monsters do any of your characters revive then die continously? Because mine do.

When you became friends with Isabel did your character start to slow down permenantly and attack in slow-mo? Because my Hawke is doing that.

Did Merill's quest in the second act fail to activate thus becoming unable to complete the alchemist's quest in the second act? Because mine did.

Do you have melee enemies hitting you from across the screen? because I am experiencing this.

If you run away from an encounter to the back of the stage do your characters revive even though you're still in battle? Because mine do.

Have you fallen through the floor twice in battle and have been forced to restart? Because I have.

Did you do the quest Sketchy on the details but become unable to complete it because of an error in hightown with the mobs? Because I did.

Did you do the quest "Bounty hunters" and have two of the bounty's not spawn into abominations forcing you to load the game and hope it randomly does this time? Because I did.

Did you do Isabel's companion quest and were unable to enter the chantry because you picked up an item before she finished speaking forcing me to load a save that I made 2 hours ago? Because I did.

Did you do the "Wayward son" quest and became unable to pick up the note from the slaver because his corpse disapeared? Because I have.

I could actually go on but I won't because I know I played the game, and if you don't believe me knock yourself out.

Have you played the game?

Modifié par Falls Edge, 16 mars 2011 - 11:12 .

[Vicious]

...we're even getting reviews from people who haven't played the game now.

[Iz Stoik zI]

Silvermaul wrote...

Baldur's Gate II -> Gameplay > 150 hours. Replayability -> Awesome

DA II -> Gameplay 25-30 hours. Replayability None

If it's taking you 150 hours to beat BGII I'm not sure what to tell you. 50-60 hours is probably more like it. And as for replay value, there isn't an "awesome" amount. Since most conversation choices and quests end up with the same results anyways, the main replayable aspects are the different strongholds and whether you side with the Shadow Thieves or the Vampires.

Don't get  me wrong, I love BGII. It's easily my favourite PC game ever. But games aren't being made like it anymore and it's time to move on.

Dragon Age II gives the average gamer 25-45 hours of great gameplay, and that's more than most $60 new releases can say. Definitely worth the money.

[Baamin]

frankly... if you're not happy with the game that you haven't played... don't buy it.. plain and simple. You presented your case/opinions so leave it be... but yet you continue to defend your opinion and continually counter other ppl opinions... so is it me or are you just trying to drag out this out?

[Drogo45]

Baamin wrote...

frankly... if you're not happy with the game that you haven't played... don't buy it.. plain and simple. You presented your case/opinions so leave it be... but yet you continue to defend your opinion and continually counter other ppl opinions... so is it me or are you just trying to drag out this out?

Very nicely put.

[Falls Edge]

Baamin wrote...

frankly... if you're not happy with the game that you haven't played... don't buy it.. plain and simple. You presented your case/opinions so leave it be... but yet you continue to defend your opinion and continually counter other ppl opinions... so is it me or are you just trying to drag out this out?

You're basically telling him to shut up you realize that don't you.

But he expressed his opinion and defended it, most people do that is it actually that strange? You've never defended your opinion before?

[Melduran]

Drogo45 wrote...

Baamin wrote...

frankly... if you're not happy with the game that you haven't played... don't buy it.. plain and simple. You presented your case/opinions so leave it be... but yet you continue to defend your opinion and continually counter other ppl opinions... so is it me or are you just trying to drag out this out?

Very nicely put.

Oh look its Captain Drogo, how goes your valiant crusade to rid the forums of evil doing?

[Cyanide Disaster]

Too bad this forum can't be like the others than you actually have to have bought the game to post. Sigh.

[Baamin]

Falls Edge wrote...

Baamin wrote...

frankly... if you're not happy with the game that you haven't played... don't buy it.. plain and simple. You presented your case/opinions so leave it be... but yet you continue to defend your opinion and continually counter other ppl opinions... so is it me or are you just trying to drag out this out?

You're basically telling him to shut up you realize that don't you.

But he expressed his opinion and defended it, most people do that is it actually that strange? You've never defended your opinion before?

I do defend my opinion up to a point... when I start noticing that other ppl don't agree with what I said then I just take it as it is... this is my opinion and I accept other ppls opinion whether I agree with it or not... and I leave it at that. No need to continually defend my opinion when I already have stated it

[BounceDK]

EA/Bioware are greedy bastards. End of story.

[Baamin]

Ashr4m wrote...

This is pretty amusing, so you go to page XY to find my thread, post on it to get it up again after it was probably over, to tell me not to drag my thread out and shut up?

So i guess your aim was just to insult me to get some sort of emotional reaction? Sorry not happening ...

Not to mention that my thread was like many other threads not aimed at only stating my unhappiness but mainly aimed to actually make bioware rethink their business decisions. If i wouldnt care about Bioware i wouldnt post here, especially since i havent even wasted money on the game. (Dont get me wrong, im sure some people will really enjoy DA2 (people who like more cinematic, action-oriented RPGs), but not me)

no... I'm not doing anything other than saying... you said what you wanted to say now it just time to let it go...

[Brenus]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

How can you make any assumptions without playing the game therefore everything you say is null and void.

Well its blatantly obvious from every review that DA2 only lasts around 30-40 hours, and uses copy pasted dungeons, which is far shorter and worse than any other PC RPG I've ever played.

The demo also greatly showed me how absolutely terrible the new combat system is. I didnt like it one bit, why do you expect me to buy the shortest wannabe RPG ever made with lame hack n slash combat which I cannot stand playing?