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[WhiteKnyght]

All the guy does is ****** and moan about being in his brother's shadow and feeling unloved by his dad because he wasn't magical. Almost nothing Hawke does can appease him, even the most ethical decisions get rivalry points. And given the right circumstances he joins the Templars when his own brother and sister were apostates.

Dudes name should have been Cain.

[Invalidcode]

Nah, he is normal at his age. Pretty well written character.

Whine non stop but he interacts pretty nice to others.

[DoubleOhSolo]

He's pretty much your typical insecure little bro. That said, he still annoyed the hell out of me. Thank you Deep Roads.

[Elessara]

Yeah Carver IS an arse. He wasn't nice to all of the other characters either. He was rude to Isabela and Anders. I didn't drag him around with Merrill much so I didn't hear any random conversations between them. I like how Varric kept egging him on though.

Would have been interesting to see some convos between him and Sebastian though.

[WhiteKnyght]

My Hawkes have been male so I dunno.

The way he acts I'm inclined to think he's jealous of the mages and joins the Templars for that reason. If you cant be them, beat them.

[Etiological Myth]

I hate Carver, on my warrior profile at least Bethany cared - Carver just ****es all the time. Well Carver if you don't like being in my shadow the simple solution would be to - go away (nobody'll miss you), if I knew about the Deep Roads thing I might of taken him with me - but I want to see what happens when I side with the mages at the end (Hopefully I kill Carver!)

[devilsgrin]

yes, Carver is still pre-set to Rival if you play LadyHawke.

[Gabey5]

Well what if hawke as your sibling? you would ****

[DeathStride]

He definitely needs some sense slapped into him. Very hate-able character, but then BW probably designed him that way on purpose.

[whitless256]

Carver was a HUGE whiner, yet he was still one of my favorite characters. He's just a very typical 18-year-old little brother. However, you'll notice as years go by, he grows out of it and slowly matures into a fairly decent man. I felt much more of a connection to him than I ever felt to Bethany because it felt like our relationship was so more real. And when a certain tragedy happens in Act 2, all I could think of was that I wanted to see my little brother and it's one of my only disappointments in the game that he didn't come home from The Gallows to talk to me after that happened.

I think joining the Templars was actually good for him. He needed to find a place of his own in the world rather than just follow you around and by the end of the game I was very proud of him. Hopefully the person who wants to kill him will change their mind.

Edit to add:  I would also suggest reading your codex about him in act 3 if he joins the Templars.  There's some very good insight to his character in there.  

Modifié par whitless256, 17 mars 2011 - 11:39 .

[Cadeym]

I used the pyGFF editor to make Carver friends with my Hawke for my second playthrough, but I dropped the game before even reaching kirkwall, maybe I will pick it up again in half a years time or something.

It still strikes me as odd that I dumped 439 hours into DA:O, but am already bored of the story in DA2

Modifié par Mouseraider, 17 mars 2011 - 11:43 .

[Oneiropolos]

What happens if you let Carver join the templars but you side with mages? Bad things, I assume? I just didn't know if he came to his senses like Cullen or if he stayed against you.

[Maria13]

Aveline says it best: "Hawke... Your brother's a ******..."

[rumination888]

Carver's personality was modeled after the people on these forums.

/runs away

[whitless256]

Oneiropolos wrote...

What happens if you let Carver join the templars but you side with mages? Bad things, I assume? I just didn't know if he came to his senses like Cullen or if he stayed against you.

As a Templar, Carver will follow Meredith for most of the game and seems to be quite intimidated by her.  (Who wouldn't be?)  However, at the end, like Cullen, he stands against her with you.  The codex suggests that Carver has been silently questioning Meredith's methods for some time and has been unsure of himself in the Templar Order.  It was not what he expected.

[SgtElias]

whitless256 wrote...

Carver was a HUGE whiner, yet he was still one of my favorite characters. He's just a very typical 18-year-old little brother. However, you'll notice as years go by, he grows out of it and slowly matures into a fairly decent man. I felt much more of a connection to him than I ever felt to Bethany because it felt like our relationship was so more real. And when a certain tragedy happens in Act 2, all I could think of was that I wanted to see my little brother and it's one of my only disappointments in the game that he didn't come home from The Gallows to talk to me after that happened.

I think joining the Templars was actually good for him. He needed to find a place of his own in the world rather than just follow you around and by the end of the game I was very proud of him. Hopefully the person who wants to kill him will change their mind.
 

This, exactly. Carver was one of my favorite characters, despite his constant moaning and snappishness.

By the end of the game I cared about him more than any other companion except my love interest. I thought he was a deep, complex, very well-written character. I liked him so much, in fact, that I wish it were possible for him to return in a future installment.

However, what everyone else was saying is still true. He IS an ass.

[Dokarqt]

Mouseraider wrote...

It still strikes me as odd that I dumped 439 hours into DA:O, but am already bored of the story in DA2

Quotable because its true.

I have this theory that bioware feared for us CRPG nerds potential lack of d-vitamin and created a lackluster game on purpose for health reason and concern. I choose to believe that over the explanation that they've gotten lazy and the quality has deteriorated.

Modifié par Dokarqt, 17 mars 2011 - 12:22 .

[TobiTobsen]

Oneiropolos wrote...

What happens if you let Carver join the templars but you side with mages? Bad things, I assume? I just didn't know if he came to his senses like Cullen or if he stayed against you.

He tells Meredith that she has to go through him to get his brother/sister, iirc.

[Oneiropolos]

Thanks for the quick replies. I'm doing my first mage play-through and debating what to do about Carver. I'm not as attached to him as I was Bethany (and it isn't a bias about her name, really!) so I'm less, "No, he must be saved by Grey Warden-ism!" But again, Carver CHOOSES to go be a templar. Even if Bethany is okay in the circle... we still don't hear great things about the situation there. So I preferred her freedom. But I think I'd be okay with letting Carver go be a Templar. Become his own man and all that. We'll..uhm.. deal with the Lyrium withdrawal later.

[TobiTobsen]

Oneiropolos wrote...

Thanks for the quick replies. I'm doing my first mage play-through and debating what to do about Carver. I'm not as attached to him as I was Bethany (and it isn't a bias about her name, really!) so I'm less, "No, he must be saved by Grey Warden-ism!" But again, Carver CHOOSES to go be a templar. Even if Bethany is okay in the circle... we still don't hear great things about the situation there. So I preferred her freedom. But I think I'd be okay with letting Carver go be a Templar. Become his own man and all that. We'll..uhm.. deal with the Lyrium withdrawal later.

After reading the Grey Warden and Templar/Circle letters of both siblings I think that they are both better of if they are not with the wardens. And being a warden is a death sentence. The Blight will get you no matter what. As a templar Carver just has to deal with the lyrium addiction (just look at Samson, leave the order before you get tottaly messed up by it. He looks better than the chatry doorguard in Denerim who took the lyrium his whole life) and you solve Bethanys problem with the templar who is harrasing her, if you kill the bastard Ser Alrik.

[Hrodric]

SgtElias wrote...

whitless256 wrote...

Carver was a HUGE whiner, yet he was still one of my favorite characters. He's just a very typical 18-year-old little brother. However, you'll notice as years go by, he grows out of it and slowly matures into a fairly decent man. I felt much more of a connection to him than I ever felt to Bethany because it felt like our relationship was so more real. And when a certain tragedy happens in Act 2, all I could think of was that I wanted to see my little brother and it's one of my only disappointments in the game that he didn't come home from The Gallows to talk to me after that happened.

I think joining the Templars was actually good for him. He needed to find a place of his own in the world rather than just follow you around and by the end of the game I was very proud of him. Hopefully the person who wants to kill him will change their mind.
 

This, exactly. Carver was one of my favorite characters, despite his constant moaning and snappishness.

By the end of the game I cared about him more than any other companion except my love interest. I thought he was a deep, complex, very well-written character. I liked him so much, in fact, that I wish it were possible for him to return in a future installment.

However, what everyone else was saying is still true. He IS an ass.

Agree.

When Carver shows up later and says something like, "The Hawke brothers together again," I said to myself "Let's show these Kirkwallabies how we roll in Ferelden!"

I put him in the line up instead of Aveline. It didn't matter that she was the better tank; he's my brother.

[dreman9999]

Elessara wrote...

Yeah Carver IS an arse. He wasn't nice to all of the other characters either. He was rude to Isabela and Anders. I didn't drag him around with Merrill much so I didn't hear any random conversations between them. I like how Varric kept egging him on though.

Would have been interesting to see some convos between him and Sebastian though.

You should of. Merill and Carver is halarious.

[Lithuasil]

Carver is a little misunderstood, and in a difficult position first and foremost. (And while it starts to feel like I'm one of those ad-bots, I'm inclined to point at my signature again, for my personal more indepth take on the matter) :<

[Fishy]

I liked him . In act 1 he`s a 19-20 years old (in the prologue he`s 18) .The guy was irresponsible but he grow out of it by the end(He`s around 25 at the end) . I think being a templar helped him with discipline.

Like my Hawke said

-No .. You're a lazy kid that blame the world for everything.
Or something like that.The young adult that complain each time someone ask them something.Like the world`s against them and they're being manipulated.He was insecure at the beginning like so many ppl.