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[Teddie Sage]

This is turning into an homophobic thread... Great...

[_- Songlian -]

Wittand25 wrote...

If you play a female Hawke does Anders even bring up any interest in males, or mentions how in the Ferelden circle everyone kissed everyone else ? If not he is not even bisexual if you play a female Hawke. 

See, that's exactly my problem with Anders. Is he bi or not? The fact that he is either, depending on the gender of your PC, does not strike me as a good choice really. That's like saying, if the PC knows French, then Companion X was born in France. If not, he's English. See my point? 

So I just roll with him as being a very private about his past, but oterwise bi guy. I don't know about you, but I need some (fixed) canon for my companions if I'm going to see them as full fleshed persons. Otherwise they're just flags. 

[Fidget6]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

I'd also be in favor of such an option at start. Let the players decide whether they want (m/m) homosexual content in a game or not, that way, everyone would be satisfied and I doubt that it's a lot of work either.

Haha, right next to the blood on/off option. Gay: on/off 

[FellowerOfOdin]

Why not? Some might be offended by excessive gore, some might be offended by gay content

[MegaBadExample]

Anders is my rival for this very reason. -.-

[BTCentral]

Bastal wrote...

Rant about how the OP did not like the companions/love interests so has somehow come to the conclusion that the game is not for "straight male gamers".

Firstly - as a straight male gamer as you put it, I would thank you to not assume that your opinion is going to be the same as everyone else with the same sexuality as you.

You do realise that romances in this game are completely optional right? Just because they are available doesn't mean you actually have to participate in them.

You thought Anders was straight in Awakening? I got completely the opposite impression.

Fourthly, obviously you are not interested in homosexual relationships - nor am I, but why should that mean that BioWare should to exclude them? Newsflash: BioWare have been doing homosexual relationships in their games for quite some time. It allows a larger target audience to relate with the game, you may not like it but then again you did not have to buy/play the game either.

A few of the negative Metacritic scores are troll posts? The vast majority of the 1's/0's are complaining that that graphics don't look the same as the 8 hour photorealistic shooter they just purchased or that the PC version is a "console port" and you are saying the majority are presenting a reasonable argument?

Granted, some people have actual arguments to back up their posts and some are basically complaining that it's not Dragon Age: Origins 2 - which it was never intended to be, it's called Dragon Age 2 after all.

At the end of the day, BioWare had some huge recent games to live up to with the likes of Origins and Mass Effect 2, etc. yes, there will be people that do not feel DA2 holds a candle to either of those games, yet there will be others that disagree.

Modifié par BTCentral, 17 mars 2011 - 11:27 .

[Fidget6]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Why not? Some might be offended by excessive gore, some might be offended by gay content

It could work I guess. It would seem a tad silly to me, but if that's the only way to make everyone comfortable I'm not against it. See? I do care about straight people after all!

[MegaBadExample]

MegaBadExample wrote...

Anders is my rival for this very reason. -.-

Hawke: "Stay back! Stay back! Don't come any closer! And for the love of the maker...keep that thing in your pants."
Anders: "Fine I hear you...strickly professional."

[Shockwave Pulsar]

Dr. Impossible wrote...

Balthamoss wrote...

http://en.wikipedia....Troll_(Internet) That's how the word is used in online forums, whether you like it not, whether you say it's not like that in 'modern usage' (What ever you mean by that) or not.

It is not used like that. It is only used as a shorthand for "I don't like your opinions." It's also self-justifying, so you never have to actually explain why you don't like someone's opinions. Handy!

Well then, wikipedia has included a whole article about how I use the word 'troll' in online forums, because you say no one uses it that way, but I do.
It's also handy to only cite phrases you like and ignore the rest. If I participate in a discussion and someone calls my arguments into question, I respond to them if I want to be taken seriously. If I only cite some and ignore those I can't/don't want to answer, then I can't be taken seriously, the same applies to everyone, even you 

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Why not? Some might be offended by excessive gore, some might be offended by gay content

Gore is everywhere in the game, you see it no matter what, so yes you can complain about that. Gay content is only in the game if you choose to have it - if you don't then you won't have gay content in your game. You have the choice between gay and straight, if you want straight, but actively choose gay then that's your own fault 

[MOB_RULES_]

Hroftt wrote...

MOB_RULES wrote...

maybe next game will give the straight people a few options:

3. Administer a swift back-hand to <insert name>, so s/he gets put in his/her place proper, and gets his/her answer as well.

Good idea

It would also allow the same sex oriented people a chance to play a straight alpha male/female role.

[Drake Sigar]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Why not? Some might be offended by excessive gore, some might be offended by gay content

There should also be an option to make Isabela white, for all those who are offended by coloured people.

[Hroftt]

About gay relations...
God is the ultimate and sovereign judge for sin. Homosexuality is sin by His order; it is not decided by public opinion or deceived/false clergy. Changing societies do not dictate God's standards. Sin is defined by God for us in the Bible. It is the source for what God says is holy and righteous or sin and abomination. Hebrews 13:8 states that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever; he does not “go with the flow.”

God's Word says that homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, an abomination, fornication, vile affections, and a great sin against Him. Homosexuality falsifies what God designed. Sin often means not only rejecting God but denying or rejecting how and why we are made. Though it may be considered acceptable by some today -- even in some churches -- it is not acceptable to God. And we need to take that seriously.

Sexual sins were rampant in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (This is the origin of the word sodomy.) Despite warnings, they refused to repent. God destroyed those cities and it was recorded as a warning to all future generations. (Genesis 18:20-21, Genesis 19:4-5, 2 Peter 2:6) Some additional scriptures on homosexuality are found in:
Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:26-27
The price paid for homosexuality and other fornications are told in:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Jude 6-7
Romans 1:18
Is homosexuality a sin? Is there hope for forgiveness?
There absolutely is hope for homosexuals. God can cleanse and purify all persons from sin. As many scriptures as there are that address sin, there are more that speak of forgiveness and redemption. He is able to give deliverance to any who sincerely desire true freedom and salvation. Such is demonstrated in 1 Corinthians 6:11 (KJV): "And such were some of you: but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." This verse says “some of you were,” meaning they became past acts.

[Teddie Sage]

Leave the bible out of this.

[Fidget6]

Hroftt wrote...

About gay relations...
God is the ultimate and sovereign judge for sin. Homosexuality is sin by His order; it is not decided by public opinion or deceived/false clergy. Changing societies do not dictate God's standards. Sin is defined by God for us in the Bible. It is the source for what God says is holy and righteous or sin and abomination. Hebrews 13:8 states that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever; he does not “go with the flow.”

God's Word says that homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, an abomination, fornication, vile affections, and a great sin against Him. Homosexuality falsifies what God designed. Sin often means not only rejecting God but denying or rejecting how and why we are made. Though it may be considered acceptable by some today -- even in some churches -- it is not acceptable to God. And we need to take that seriously.

Sexual sins were rampant in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (This is the origin of the word sodomy.) Despite warnings, they refused to repent. God destroyed those cities and it was recorded as a warning to all future generations. (Genesis 18:20-21, Genesis 19:4-5, 2 Peter 2:6) Some additional scriptures on homosexuality are found in:
Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:26-27
The price paid for homosexuality and other fornications are told in:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Jude 6-7
Romans 1:18
Is homosexuality a sin? Is there hope for forgiveness?
There absolutely is hope for homosexuals. God can cleanse and purify all persons from sin. As many scriptures as there are that address sin, there are more that speak of forgiveness and redemption. He is able to give deliverance to any who sincerely desire true freedom and salvation. Such is demonstrated in 1 Corinthians 6:11 (KJV): "And such were some of you: but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." This verse says “some of you were,” meaning they became past acts.

Oh good God. *facepalm*

Modifié par Fidget6, 17 mars 2011 - 11:29 .

[Hroftt]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Leave the bible out of this.

 Why?

 There is only one true Judge who decide what is natural and acceptable and what is not.


 p.s. Fidget6, i pity you. You are just sick and need healing of your soul.

Modifié par Hroftt, 17 mars 2011 - 11:30 .

[Teddie Sage]

Religions and homophobia has no place on these boards. They only bring flame wars.

[MOB_RULES_]

Hroftt wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Leave the bible out of this.

 Why?

 There is only one true Judge who decide what is natural and acceptable and what is not.

adam and eve, not adam and steve?

[Fidget6]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Religions and homophobia has no place on these boards. They only bring flame wars.

You should add abortion and politics to that list too. 

[Fidget6]

MOB_RULES wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Leave the bible out of this.

 Why?

 There is only one true Judge who decide what is natural and acceptable and what is not.

adam and eve, not adam and steve?

No, no it actually was Adam and Steve, you must have read the King James version, he mucked it all up.

[lostspline]

Hroftt wrote...
 There is only one true Judge who decide what is natural and acceptable and what is not.

The FSM?

[Dr. Impossible]

Teddie Sage wrote...

This is turning into an homophobic thread... Great...

What does this mean?

BTCentral wrote...

BioWare have been doing homosexual relationships in their games for quite some time. It allows a larger target audience to relate with the game.

Hmm, it's almost like the romances are the focal point of the games or something.

Balthamoss wrote...

Well then, wikipedia has included a
whole article about how I use the word 'troll' in online forums, because
you say no one uses it that way, but I do.

Wikipedia's definition is obsolete.

Hroftt wrote...

God is the ultimate and sovereign judge for sin.

This is like electing Godot for President...

[Teddie Sage]

Fidget6 wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Religions and homophobia has no place on these boards. They only bring flame wars.

You should add abortion and politics to that list too. 

Yeah, and that.

[MOB_RULES_]

I think we are going to get into trouble, if we keep going on.

[philbo1965uk]

Fidget6 wrote...


1. I'm a homosexual male, and I find the female body beautiful. I just don't want to screw it.

2. I'm talking about in the context of thinking that justifies not including them in-game. To put it in perspective what if a gay man said that straight couples shouldn't be in games because they thought it was icky? Would you not have a problem with that? 

Firstly ..I was responding to your apparent double standards.

Generally H/males do find the female genetalia repulsive..it isn't a shocking revelation or an incorrect statement either.

Secondly , of course thats a given.

But do please give a reasonable response on why you think it is justifed including rampant homosexuality in the game.I would have thought the average gay male would object to the game misrepresenting them .

[mdugger12]

LOL Thats right dude. If you're going to start a ridiculous post about why DA II is terrible don't half way do it. Strive for the best. Be the craziest nut shaking his fist on the block!