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[Fidget6]

Hroftt wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Hroftt wrote...
2 Fidget6, i pity you and your sould, no madness here, woman (i cant call you man).

Yeah, you said that already. Troll harder. 

 i was just answering that  i dont have other feelings to you except of pity (and would be disgust if i saw you in RL, but here you are too far for this feeling).

Awwww. Sadly, I don't care what an anonymous bible thumping troll that doesn't know the first thing about me's opinion is of me from one thread. 

[Teddie Sage]

Hroftt wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Hroftt wrote...
2 Fidget6, i pity you and your sould, no madness here, woman (i cant call you man).

Yeah, you said that already. Troll harder. 

 i was just answering that  i dont have other feelings to you except of pity (and would be disgust if i saw you in RL, but here you are too far for this feeling).

Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

[Derax]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Derax wrote...
///PS: Mainly because they are written by male programmers for a male audience 

How kind for the female writer of this game.<_<

Okay: better: Mainly because they are written from a male perspective to a male audience. 

[Drake Sigar]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Hroftt wrote...
2 Fidget6, i pity you and your sould, no madness here, woman (i cant call you man).

Yeah, you said that already. Troll harder. 

 i was just answering that  i dont have other feelings to you except of pity (and would be disgust if i saw you in RL, but here you are too far for this feeling).

Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

Please don’t put the words “balls” and “faces” so close together.

[Teddie Sage]

Derax wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Derax wrote...
///PS: Mainly because they are written by male programmers for a male audience 

How kind for the female writer of this game.<_<

Okay: better: Mainly because they are written from a male perspective to a male audience. 

Still, you forget all about Female Hawke being  able to date Isabela and Merrill. This game isn't sexist, nor is it homophobic.:innocent:

[Teddie Sage]

Drake Sigar wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Hroftt wrote...
2 Fidget6, i pity you and your sould, no madness here, woman (i cant call you man).

Yeah, you said that already. Troll harder. 

 i was just answering that  i dont have other feelings to you except of pity (and would be disgust if i saw you in RL, but here you are too far for this feeling).

Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

Please don’t put the words “balls” and “faces” so close together.

Oh, I beg your pardon, Messere. I was only stating a point.

Edit: Sorry about the double post.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 17 mars 2011 - 12:11 .

[Dr. Impossible]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I'm betting even the majority of homophobic gamers value the overall quality of games more than the threat of having a character of the same gender make a pass at them.  Seriously, it is amazing how big a deal this is to you people.

The amount of homosexual content in the game is inversely proportional to how much heterosexual men want to play the game.

Also, stop using nonsensical terminology like "homophobic."

Modifié par Dr. Impossible, 17 mars 2011 - 12:13 .

[Hroftt]

Teddie Sage wrote...
Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick and hope he gets better if he returns to our Lord?


 Anyway, lets get back to the point of discussion:

 For ****** people there are much MORE options for romance, then for those who only want straight parners for romance.

Modifié par Hroftt, 17 mars 2011 - 12:15 .

[Teddie Sage]

Would you prefer the term anti-gay staight people?

@Hroftt: He isn't sick. Your religion makes you think that.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 17 mars 2011 - 12:15 .

[Selidor]

reallyawesomesauce wrote...

As a straight male gamer I too found the romancing "options" lacking.

Mostly because the romance angles on Anders and Fenris apparently wouldn't stop. I think I was presented with the opportunity at least 10 times for each, and even immediately upon meeting Fenris, whereas the angles of a hetero nature weren't "presenting" themselves nearly as aggressively (certainly not for the lack of trying on my part ).

It's a dialogue option - one among several. How can it be presenting itself aggressively? Just ignore it like you ignore the option to kill someone you'd rather free, or the humour option when you think a joke is inappropriate. Playing as a male Hawke there was only one occasion in the whole game where I was forced to select a romance-related dialogue option with no other choices - the part where Anders flirts with you. I picked the refusal option and that was that - he never hit on me again and siding with the mages I had more than enough opportunity to make up for the small rivalry gain you get from turning him down (and if you're not siding with the mages you're going to gain rivalry with Anders anyway).

Also, the majority of players taking advantage of all of those Fenris and Anders flirt options are people playing a female Hawke, so if anything you should be complaining that the game focused too much on the male LIs and therefore female players. I don't think that was even the case, though. Each romanceable companion (and also Aveline) had multiple opportunities to flirt with them every time you had a conversation with them, and if you weren't getting enough personal conversations with them then you weren't getting enough friendship or rivalry points to trigger it.

Modifié par Selidor, 17 mars 2011 - 12:17 .

[Selidor]

*sorry, double post

Modifié par Selidor, 17 mars 2011 - 12:16 .

[MOB_RULES_]

Hroftt wrote...

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick?

you're not allowed to have your own set of values and morales. if you openly speak them, in today's 'net society, you're wrong. The sad thing is, these kids hide behind the scapegoat of " U TROLLIN".   

[Ray Joel Oh]

Dr. Impossible wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I'm betting even the majority of homophobic gamers value the overall quality of games more than the threat of having a character of the same gender make a pass at them.  Seriously, it is amazing how big a deal this is to you people.

The amount of homosexual content in the game is inversely proportional to how much heterosexual men want to play the game.

And I'm sure that's got nothing to do with all the major complaints people have with the design and gameplay.  Nope, it's gotta be because of two lines of dialogue.

Dr. Impossible wrote...
Also, stop using nonsensical terminology like "homophobic."

Homophobic, privelege, logic, reason... got any other triggers with which we may annoy you?

[Fidget6]

MOB_RULES wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick?

you're not allowed to have your own set of values and morales.   

Speak for yourself, I'm Unitarian dude, I respect all religions. If he wants to believe I'm sick, doesn't bother me at all.

[Ray Joel Oh]

MOB_RULES wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick?

you're not allowed to have your own set of values and morales. if you openly speak them, in today's 'net society, you're wrong. The sad thing is, these kids hide behind the scapegoat of " U TROLLIN".   

By all means, have your own sets of morals and values.  You just open yourself up to ridicule when you proselytize on a forum for video games.  Thems the breaks, folks.

[Ulathar]

Hroftt wrote...
God is the ultimate and sovereign judge for sin. Homosexuality is sin by His order;

uh-huh

[Wynne]

Stevie Gerrard wrote...

I’m a straight man and I loved the way romance was handled in this game. I did feel a little bit annoyed by the homosexual innuendo in some part of the game as it felt you couldn’t have a real friendship with those characters without being rude at some point, a polite decline would have being a welcome addition.

Featured above: how to state your opinion reasonably and not sound like a whiny little kid crying about how he wasn't pampered for once in his gaming life. This is the kind of attitude that makes sense and that I think a lot of people would agree with whether they liked the romances in DA2 or not. Too bad it doesn't seem to be the majority on these forums.

Seriously, a number of people in this thread are reminding me of this guy.

[MOB_RULES_]

I got ban for posting about homosex in other thread.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6479612/1

[Dr. Impossible]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

And I'm sure that's got nothing to do with all the major complaints people have with the design and gameplay.  Nope, it's gotta be because of two lines of dialogue.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Homophobic, privelege, logic, reason... got any other triggers with which we may annoy you?

"Homophobic" is a nebulous, imprecise term that's meant to relieve the user of the burden of actually explain anything in detail. That's why it's a stupid word that should not be used.

And at what point have I said that logic and reason are nonsensical words? Show me the quote.

[AmstradHero]

Hroftt wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...
Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick and hope he gets better if he returns to our Lord?


 Anyway, lets get back to the point of discussion:

 For ****** people there are much MORE options for romance, then for those who only want straight parners for romance.

Blatantly incorrect.

If you are playing a character who is gay, you have two options available to you.
If you are playing a character who is straight, you have two options available to you.

Can't get much more equal than that.

To be perfectly honest, the only thing this thread is worthy of now is a lock.  Go back to RPGCodex, /b, or whatever rock you call home.

[Zmajc]

AmstradHero wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...
Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick and hope he gets better if he returns to our Lord?


 Anyway, lets get back to the point of discussion:

 For ****** people there are much MORE options for romance, then for those who only want straight parners for romance.

Blatantly incorrect.

If you are playing a character who is gay, you have two options available to you.
If you are playing a character who is straight, you have two options available to you.

Can't get much more equal than that.

To be perfectly honest, the only thing this thread is worthy of now is a lock.  Go back to RPGCodex, /b, or whatever rock you call home.

Except you forgot Sebastian. With him around you get the feeling you're playing a gay dating simulator.

Modifié par Zmajc, 17 mars 2011 - 12:37 .

[Fidget6]

Zmajc wrote...

AmstradHero wrote...

Hroftt wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...
Man, grow some balls and stop assaulting him with your insults. We're on a social board, not a place to throw your religion in our faces.

 Is it insult to state that you feel pity for someone sick and hope he gets better if he returns to our Lord?


 Anyway, lets get back to the point of discussion:

 For ****** people there are much MORE options for romance, then for those who only want straight parners for romance.

Blatantly incorrect.

If you are playing a character who is gay, you have two options available to you.
If you are playing a character who is straight, you have two options available to you.

Can't get much more equal than that.

To be perfectly honest, the only thing this thread is worthy of now is a lock.  Go back to RPGCodex, /b, or whatever rock you call home.

Except you forgot Sebastian. With him around you get the feeling you're playing a gay dating simulator.

Considering he's the only heterosexual-exclusive option in the game? 

[PSUHammer]

Maria Caliban wrote...

If I were going to stereotype the straight, male gamer, I'd suggest that an exotic, lusty, and bisexual pirate gal built like a brick s**t house might appeal to them.

Hey, that outfit brought out the 16 year old boy in me, again! 

[Ray Joel Oh]

Dr. Impossible wrote...
"Homophobic" is a nebulous, imprecise term that's meant to relieve the user of the burden of actually explain anything in detail. That's why it's a stupid word that should not be used.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a 
[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh]–noununreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals  and homosexuality. [/b] 
intense hatred or fear of homosexuals or homosexuality
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

Seems clear enough to me.

Dr. Impossible wrote...
And at what point have I said that logic and reason are nonsensical words? Show me the quote.

Honestly, if you can't even tell when you're being mocked, there isn't much fun to be had here.

[Hroftt]

AmstradHero wrote...
Blatantly incorrect.

If you are playing a character who is gay, you have two options available to you.
If you are playing a character who is straight, you have two options available to you.

Can't get much more equal than that.

 What you are speaking:
 If you, as straight, agree to romance bi or ****** companions, then you do have this two options.

 But what i was speaking:
 If you are straight want to romance straight companions, your options are severly limited.


 If you still cant spot difference between two notions, please re-read them and compare.

 

Modifié par Hroftt, 17 mars 2011 - 12:43 .