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Bioware Neglected Their Core Audience: The Straight Male Gamer


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RAMACHRIST wrote...

Really? REALLY?

I like Bioware for the fact that they acknowledge there are people other than your proverbial "STRAIGHT MALE" playing their games.

I also wonder what your definition of what a "straight male" is. Is it somebody who can't handle a few men flirting you up, that there may be more women than men for characters, that the women characters aren't complete sex objects (god forbid that one is butch [Aveline])?

If the game doesn't cater to your "straight male" sentiments, then go play any other game out there. There's enough sexist/racist/homophobic gaming material garbage out there to keep you happy.

Thank you, Bioware, for making a game that allows me to play out MY fantasy girl: a tough, non-sexualized queer woman with jet black hair. I'd like it if you could make people of color a more realistic possibility ('black' people look like white people with bad tans), and that you might incorporate different body sizes into the game.


I'd imagine a straight male is someone who is only interested in women, he doesn't have to hate gay or bisexual people to be straight. Also did I miss the memo were its wrong to be only intrested women now?

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Right there: 1 in 4 Democrats and 1 in 2 Republicans have a negative attitude toward gays. Doesn't mean they want to kill them all or punish somehow, but I doubt they approve of the propagation of this whole GLBT thing.


Still no indication of gaming habits.  For that Bioware relies on gaming data.

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Because all estimates in other primary sources I cared to check out seemed to have been based of some silly question like "Have you ever experienced something homosexual in your life?" It's like asking a man if he has ever smoked, and writing him down as a smoker if he says "yes", even though he quit 20 years ago and condemns this bad habit.


The studies I looked at marked down people who were self-identified as gay, lesbian, bi.  http://www2.law.ucla...ndGLBpopACS.pdf
http://www.cnn.com/E...ls/#val=USP00p3

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DinoSteve wrote...

RAMACHRIST wrote...

Really? REALLY?

I like Bioware for the fact that they acknowledge there are people other than your proverbial "STRAIGHT MALE" playing their games.

I also wonder what your definition of what a "straight male" is. Is it somebody who can't handle a few men flirting you up, that there may be more women than men for characters, that the women characters aren't complete sex objects (god forbid that one is butch [Aveline])?

If the game doesn't cater to your "straight male" sentiments, then go play any other game out there. There's enough sexist/racist/homophobic gaming material garbage out there to keep you happy.

Thank you, Bioware, for making a game that allows me to play out MY fantasy girl: a tough, non-sexualized queer woman with jet black hair. I'd like it if you could make people of color a more realistic possibility ('black' people look like white people with bad tans), and that you might incorporate different body sizes into the game.


I'd imagine a straight male is someone who is only interested in women, he doesn't have to hate gay or bisexual people to be straight. Also did I miss the memo were its wrong to be only intrested women now?


You have missed it. But as long as we are the majority it doesn't matter what they think.

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This "problem" has a simple solution.

Two straight characters, two gay, two lesbian, two bisexual, and maybe a transgender character who isn't a prostitute. That way, you appeal to the majority without sacrificing variety.

If you're going to give your characters a sexuality, you might as well be fair. I do appreciate having lady-loving female party members. I would like to not have to be forced into one option, because some straight male gamers are uncomfortable with homosexuality in a VIDEO GAME.

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More recruitment efforts from the Westboro Baptist Church


Yawn.  Your homicidal concern for the activities of other people's genitals is creepy.  And sex with 14 year olds is Hebephilia.

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MOB_RULES wrote...
Can't justify my hysteria, so here is a bunch of text speak.



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Kornelius wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

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Madi wrote...

I disagree with homosexuality and would rather not see it present at all  but if Bioware is dead set on catering to homosexuals then just stick to your mandatory 1 homosexual romance option per gender. Despite the whining from some that there needed to be more homosexul options to make things "fair" and "equal" despite it's limited appeal that's the best sollution. Origins was perfect in this regard and you also included homosexual side options including Isabella and prostitutes. I also thing Bioware should provide the option to set the option to establish your sexual prefference during character creation with the option to deactivate romance options that you're not comfortable with. This way you don't have to awkwardly turn durn down characters who make homosexual advances.  Making all romancable characters gay romance options is no sollution and hopefully Bioware will not make this misguided mistake again.


+1 read bioware read.


Agreed.


I agree too.


Most sense anyone has made in this thread  yet. I absolutely hated how they almost immediatly hit you with the painfully awkward  "sorry i don't swing that way" conversation which is indeed forced on the player.

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racism,homophobia,intolerance.....i am wondering why this thread is still open....no mods on duty today???

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Rixxencaxx wrote...

racism,homophobia,intolerance.....i am wondering why this thread is still open....no mods on duty today???


Ooooh, where was the racism? Must have missed that. 

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Ray Joel Oh wrote...

MOB_RULES wrote...
Can't justify my hysteria, so here is a bunch of text speak.


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I am.. a straight male... I am comfortable in my sexuality.. I have... no problem with the gay community or whatever it is these days that people label them as..
However in the last 18 years I find myself becomming more and more anti-gay why you dont ask well I shall tell you anyhows..
Thanks to the constant need for the media to contstantly ram the issue down my throat!! no pun intended, the constant need to have film,tv to cater for the community by broadcasting the issue in such exaggerated tones, because the music industry constantly expresses equality even though the average man does not have an issue with it, because in an open debate if I express my views then I am homophobic (which would make a a few of my mates laugh) so now we have it in game not a problem I say if I as the player initiate it and if I don't then I should not be penalized in anyway.
What a person does in their own backyard is completly up to them (providing it breaks no laws) but I don't need an non issue thrust in my face on a constant basis because a minority thinks they are hard done by predjudiced against etc etc..

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Aniki_21 wrote...

Kornelius wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

aliasbatman wrote...

Madi wrote...

I disagree with homosexuality and would rather not see it present at all  but if Bioware is dead set on catering to homosexuals then just stick to your mandatory 1 homosexual romance option per gender. Despite the whining from some that there needed to be more homosexul options to make things "fair" and "equal" despite it's limited appeal that's the best sollution. Origins was perfect in this regard and you also included homosexual side options including Isabella and prostitutes. I also thing Bioware should provide the option to set the option to establish your sexual prefference during character creation with the option to deactivate romance options that you're not comfortable with. This way you don't have to awkwardly turn durn down characters who make homosexual advances.  Making all romancable characters gay romance options is no sollution and hopefully Bioware will not make this misguided mistake again.


+1 read bioware read.


Agreed.


I agree too.


Most sense anyone has made in this thread  yet. I absolutely hated how they almost immediatly hit you with the painfully awkward  "sorry i don't swing that way" conversation which is indeed forced on the player.


Oh you poor, poor babies.

You're not comfortable simply turning someone down?  So you'd rather not see it in a game?  I'm assuming none of you have ever turned anyone down in real life, for you to be so offended that someone not of your persuasion might be coming onto you?

How utterly ridiculous can it be for you people to be going around in a game killing dozens and dozens of people (many of them bursting into a pool of blood)... Yet it's a homosexual advance that you can turn down with a click of a mouse that somehow makes you uncomfortable.

Honestly, ridiculous doesn't even begin to sum up how absurd some of you homophobes really are.

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Rixxencaxx wrote...

racism,homophobia,intolerance.....i am wondering why this thread is still open....no mods on duty today???


They have lives, contrary to what some members believe on these boards. Give 'em some time.

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philbo1965uk wrote...

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It's just semantics man. Of course a monster can fester and think about demented things, but as the term is used in vernacular in the west, a pedophile is one that acts on those urges.


Wrong.....the world is full of  pedophiles .

The use of the vernacular in the West is descriptive of anybody that IS...one doesn't have to act .A pedophile is a molester of children.This is a misuse of the definition.

I'm not championing pedophilia...I view it as morally equivalent  to homosexuality.I just find it ironic that gay people think homosexual is okay and should be accepted by society and pedophilia should not.When there are many many more pedophiles.Whom object and view homosexuality as deviant.

I want to hit home that homosexuality is as horrendous and unnatural without the assistance of biblical fanatacism.

All bible bashing misfits,homosexuals,pedo's should be burnt at the stake.....the only altruism should be towards those that procreate and live in harmony...should be no place for sexual deviants 

Is your name your date of birth? If so it explains your prehistoric views.

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Rixxencaxx wrote...

racism,homophobia,intolerance.....i am wondering why this thread is still open....no mods on duty today???



Don't worry. philbo1965uk who is probably gay himself has been actively working to get this thread locked. ;)

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MOB_RULES wrote...
Would that an image macro could express the complex reasoning that escapes me?  Alas...


;C

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Mlaar wrote...

 even though the average man does not have an issue with it 


Tell that to the California voters that voted for prop 8. The LGBT community has come a long ways, but still has a long ways to go yet.

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Aniki_21 wrote...
I absolutely hated how they almost immediatly hit you with the painfully awkward  "sorry i don't swing that way" conversation which is indeed forced on the player.

Had it happen to me a couple of times in real life. Not a big deal unless you make it one. At least they generally accept no means no.

I've noticed some people complaining about how it's morally wrong.. Isn't killing people morally wrong and yet you still play games with combat?

Modifié par Aidunno, 17 mars 2011 - 03:13 .


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Do you guys really think bigots have anything resembling intelligence?

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Perhaps I've not made myself clear before.

Homophobia is not tolerated on these forums. Maybe you feel that you have the right to feel that way. Great. It's a free world. But when you come onto this board and start sharing your opinion in an incredibly offensive way, you're breaking the TOS that you agreed to when you signed up.

Haven't even gotten past the last three pages and already bans and warnings handed out.

Locking, for obvious reasons.