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[Gexora]

 So. during "the Demands of the Qun" you meet this guy who tells you that Grey Wardens absolutely cannot meddle in politics. even when it's war.
Did anyone laugh as hard as I did?

[Lithuasil]

Overthrowing Kings isn't meddling with politics, according to official Warden speechcode, it's called "fixing politics".
But honestly, I didn't expect much from those guys ever since Liam Neeson shanked Ser Jory for no apparent reason at all.

[Shadowrun1177]

Yeah, I saw a streaming play through were the Warden was Alistair and I thought that was even more ironic to hear him say that after the events of DA:O. Of course I also noticed that the Warden Stroud seems to have been voiced by the same VA who voiced Riordan.

[Darker_than_black]

Gexora wrote...

 So. during "the Demands of the Qun" you meet this guy who tells you that Grey Wardens absolutely cannot meddle in politics. even when it's war.
Did anyone laugh as hard as I did?

A laughed about as hard as when Leliana, during the quest-line Faith, said "you can call me Leliana" and shortly after (if Hawke picks the right dialouge) says "I see it will be difficult to remain anonymous this close to Ferelden"

Well duh?...Ofc it is hard to be anonymous when you tell people your real name.

To return the topic at hand, yeah its quite ridiculous to hear a Warden say that after playing DAO. Also in for example the Anderfels the Wardens practicly rule the nation.

[rumination888]

The entire story behind Warden's Keep was about politics, too.
With that said, I think the meaning behind what that Warden said was that they can't meddle in the affairs of OTHER people's politics. In DA:O, Loghain forced politics on you. In Warden's Keep, King Arland forced politics on Sophia Dryden.

[Herr Uhl]

rumination888 wrote...

The entire story behind Warden's Keep was about politics, too.
With that said, I think the meaning behind what that Warden said was that they can't meddle in the affairs of OTHER people's politics. In DA:O, Loghain forced politics on you. In Warden's Keep, King Arland forced politics on Sophia Dryden.

Duncan disapproves of both.

[erilben]

rumination888 wrote...

The entire story behind Warden's Keep was about politics, too.
With that said, I think the meaning behind what that Warden said was that they can't meddle in the affairs of OTHER people's politics. In DA:O, Loghain forced politics on you. In Warden's Keep, King Arland forced politics on Sophia Dryden.

Some of the Wardens with Sophia weren't happy with her because Wardens are suppose to be neutral.

Also Alistair tells you in with his Grey Warden cameo that the Order wasn't happy that they got involved in Origins.

[RazorrX]

You break a lot of the rules in DA:O. That is why you are a new recruit, you have no idea of the rules, etc. for being a Grey Warden. You only know that you are supposed to stop the blight, thus you do whatever you need to accomplish that (and add in some payback). Supposedly when you or the Orlesian become the new Commander of the Grey in Amaranthine it is something new to the organization, as outside of Weisaupt (sp) the wardens have NO political power.

The wardens you meet are doing what real wardens would do, remain neutral and move on - darkspawn and the blight are more important than what is going on in kirkwall to them.

[NKKKK]

Also what the ****, the Fereldan wardens function like an arling.

[Dangerfoot]

Lithuasil wrote...

But honestly, I didn't expect much from those guys ever since Liam Neeson shanked Ser Jory for no apparent reason at all.

Yep, ever since I played through the Joining for the first time, I haven't cared for Duncan or the Wardens at all. I have no idea why Duncan is regarded as an amazing badass (in-game and IRL).

[AlexXIV]

Like everything in Thedas, Grey Warden policies are quite questionable and also not everyone seems to stick to the rules all the time. They can meddle in politics when they deem it necessary in their darkspawn issues. For example if a blight can only be ended by replacing a king. They basically have no restrictions as to how to end blights, they can use forbidden magic, meddle in politics, and probably break almost every law.

[AlexXIV]

Dangerfoot wrote...

Lithuasil wrote...

But honestly, I didn't expect much from those guys ever since Liam Neeson shanked Ser Jory for no apparent reason at all.

Yep, ever since I played through the Joining for the first time, I haven't cared for Duncan or the Wardens at all. I have no idea why Duncan is regarded as an amazing badass (in-game and IRL).

Duncan finds the Warden who ends the Blight. And he is a Grey Warden, even Grey Warden Commander of Ferelden. Only thing he really failed is in Ostagar. Grey Warden are known for being great strategists, so Ostagar should never have happened. But obviously Duncan thought it a good idea to let a young foolish king make the important decisions.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 17 mars 2011 - 01:51 .

[Gexora]

Eh so no one minds Orzammar, for example?
I understand though that all that was done during the events of Origins was required to stop the Blight, but AWAKENING!