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[neppakyo]

Anathemic wrote...

Volourn wrote...

Yeah, and they've made it half a dozen times. Are they ever gonna make a non Witcher game?

How the hell did they recreate it a dozen times? There isn't a Witcher series spanning 12 different games, the only games CD Projekt RED produced/attempted to produce are, The Witcher, The Witcher: Rise of the White Wolf, The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings. That's 3 games. So tell me how does 3 = 12?

Volourn wrote...

They used the Aurora, they used this forum, they sued this site, they used BIO too pimp TW. If it wasn't for BIO I never would have paid attention to TW. I was actually pretty pimped and such a TW fanboy pre release.

When did CD Projekt RED sue BioWare? Source please.

Volourn wrote...

Um.. Thery were pimping Aurora with TW1. TW2 is a different story because at this stage Aurora is a 0 year old game. Of course they're bound to change engines. And, if you py attention, companies love to bash their previous works to pimp their new ones.

Yes they heavily modified Aurora with TW1, and again the engine itself was inadequate to what they sought to produce in the first place, so they created a new engine. What's the problem here? Dev companies borrow engines all the time such as the Unreal Engine.

Volourn wrote...

" Not to mention The Witcher 1 generated alot of sale, I think the company is doing fairly fine."

That's what i thoguht too, but sadly it isn't true. They are barely hanging on,and they really need TW2 to sell a lot or else they can be eveven in worse trouble.

Volourn wrote...

" Not to mention its sister company GoG is producing income from releasing DRM-free games, and also not to mention they are under the publisher CD Projekt."

Sister company won't safe them. if CD Project Red can't make money they will collapse.

btw, I'm not saying I want them to fial. I don't care. Even though I didn't care for the TWO I'm ambileveat b/c maybe one day they'll make a game I like but facts are facts. They're not on solid ground currently.

How is CD Projekt RED barely hanging on? Source please. CD Projekt RED is just but a branch of CD Projekt responsible for making games. The general of CD Projekt is in collaboration with Disney in producing DVDs, so tell me, is Disney going to fail too?

Volourn wrote...

BIO's biggest problem is they listen to their 'fans' too much not that they listen to them not at all. BIO would make vastly better games if they simply ignored the whiny punks on these fourms. Some of the changes that even i dislike are because of these stupid forums.

This here I can agree with.

I think Volourn is strawmanning. If I understand the term properly.

[Volourn]

I meant use not sue. That's one amusing typo I wish I didn't make. Heh. As far as I know CDP and BIO get along fine.

The Aurora engine was acceptable enough for them to pay to use it, right? It also was good enough to make a popular game (whether I like it or not is irrelevant).

Do some research man if you care enough about CDP. But, it was in black and white when the CDP bosses discussing about how while that while TW was successful in terms of sales theyw er ehaving a hard time securing resources.


When I say they've made the same game a bunch of time it';s an old Codexian crack about all the different versions of TW1. L0L

[AlanC9]

Volourn wrote...

"Didn't you use " I am a brainwashed BIO fan" as a sig over on the Codex?"

Sarcasm. Learn.it. Love it. Hate it.

Hey, I always knew it was sarcastic -- just thought it was amusing in this context.

[Anathemic]

Volourn wrote...

I meant use not sue. That's one amusing typo I wish I didn't make. Heh. As far as I know CDP and BIO get along fine.

The Aurora engine was acceptable enough for them to pay to use it, right? It also was good enough to make a popular game (whether I like it or not is irrelevant).

Do some research man if you care enough about CDP. But, it was in black and white when the CDP bosses discussing about how while that while TW was successful in terms of sales theyw er ehaving a hard time securing resources.


When I say they've made the same game a bunch of time it';s an old Codexian crack about all the different versions of TW1. L0L

Well then, there's the EDIT option y'know?

Sure the Aurora Engine was acceptable, but in the end it wasn't fit to what CD Projekt RED sought to produce. Again what's wrong with borrowing game engines again? Unreal Engine is borrowed alot.

Now you are going ad hominem against me in questioning my research? How about you do your research? I'm still waiting for an answer and source to explain how CD Projekt RED is 'barely hanging on' as you put it.

Edit: And I have no idea how you can confuse 3 for 12, exaggeration or not.

Modifié par Anathemic, 23 avril 2011 - 04:01 .

[yaw]

Galad22 wrote...

But they didn't bring it further they brought it backwards, in almost every single way. Less complex, less long, less interesting, less everything.

You say they evolved DA2, I say they devolved it. Both are opinions, both might be just as correct.

[Huntress]

"Volourn wrote...

BIO's biggest problem is they listen to their
'fans' too much not that they listen to them not at all. BIO would make
vastly better games if they simply ignored the whiny punks on these
fourms. Some of the changes that even i dislike are because of these
stupid forums."

Thats true, they did listen to them and now look how they pay back.. the QQuing is out of limits!

Just to make some of you if NOT most of you remember, i'll drop what I saw in DAO forum:

1)Make characters more responsive! ( check!)
2) add voice to main character, the warden is a BLANK SHEET. (check)
3)Not more saving the world, I want to pewpew! (check)
4) More quests and quests. (check)
5)Loving awakening no more talks out of camp!( check)
6)Who need relationship in a game? ( love this one rofl... hawk only get to "fun" 2 times in 7 years )
7)Awakening Runecfting is bad! ( check)
8)Add cameos! ( check)
9)make the game able to be played in console and computer ( check)
10)Blood-mages are bad ( check)
11) new hero! ( check)
12) I want to suffer the lost of X and Y, both if possible! ( check)
13)Make the game shorter I get bored fast!! ( check)
14) I like to be betrayed by close a friend or Li or Mother and the cat!!! ( check)
15) I want a dog!!! ( check)

I can add many more but I do not want to bore you with old stuff.

Now you tell me if bioware didn't listen to you good people.

Modifié par Huntress, 23 avril 2011 - 05:06 .

[rolson00]

Modifié par rolson00, 24 avril 2011 - 10:34 .

[Aratark]

Rolson, you missed a full stop on line 1,500.

[erynnar]

Okay, I have no idea what the wall of code it...my husband would but he is asleep.

Seriously guys, you respond to Volourn? His/her bridge is missing him, and he/she can't work a quote button. Made up crap thrown out like facts, no links to back it up, and he/she insults everyone. Really guys, just stop feeding the troll until such time as they actually have a valid argument with links to back them up. Please, I'm begging you. I don't mind someone who doesn't agree with me, this is just ridiculous with him/her.


As to the OP's disappointment in me, well you are entitled to your opinions As I am entitled to mine. I put my reasons in the appropriate places. I did find it funny that it took all of what, five or six posts before you got called a troll or a BioWare employee.

Seriously though, I should be grateful? Um, yeah...you don't get to tell me what to feel. And I dont' know about you, but I don't like having my leg pissed on and told it's only raining.  If someone took a crap in their hand and sprinkled it with sugar and told me it was candy, I wouldn't eat it.  And I wouldn't take the same turd wrapped in a bow either.  

Now, is DA2 horrible? No. Is it the most awful game ever? No.  It is, however splendid in it's mediocrity and totally unworthy of BioWare. Paying more for less, and using the orginal and selling this rushed game as a sequel to DAO was...a crappy thing to do too. As is selling dlc that should have been in the game to begin with is also a crappy thing to do.

Modifié par erynnar, 24 avril 2011 - 08:36 .

[bEVEsthda]

Aratark wrote...

Rolson, you missed a full stop on line 1,500.

Well, I think Rolson may have been taken out into the back yard and been shot.

(and if not, well it's kinda an idea, isn't it? )

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 24 avril 2011 - 08:36 .

[Sabriana]

@ Anathemic

Of course 3 = 12 makes sense. To Volourn it does. The same way 5 = 10 does, amIrite, my pretty princess?

(the 5 = 10 equation arises from utter hilarity Volourn created over at the Codex)

@ Erynnar

And I dont' know about you, but I don't like having my leg pissed on and told it's only raining. If someone took a crap in their hand and sprinkled it with sugar and told me it was candy, I wouldn't eat it. And I wouldn't take the same turd wrapped in a bow either.

Thanks. Thanks heaps. Really.

My cat thanks you too. He'd tell you himself, but he is currently packing his suitcase and litterbox, because he's moving out. He simply adores being sprayed with coffee. With surgar and cream even.

[Gotholhorakh]

tulx wrote...
In short - stop whining and start appreciating. There are too few developers who risk to evolve their biggest franchises - don't force Bioware to make cookie-cutter games like Activision does now.

It doesn't matter how much you put the word fans in inverted commas, or characterise people as whiners.

This is not some external invading force of trolls, this is the actual paying customer base of BioWare who are coming up with feedback.

That feedback is valid, it is by and large constructive, and you know what?

It's better to be given a chance to put things right by your customers, than for them to shrug and walk off and forget you exist without you getting that chance.

"In short", as emotive as you might find it, that feedback is from people who are still invested in, and interested in, and potentially interested in spending money on, BioWare products. It's not for you to tell them they can't or shouldn't.

As a great man once said "suck it up, princess". We could do with him saying it now, to you.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 24 avril 2011 - 12:19 .

[erynnar]

Sabriana wrote...

@ Anathemic

Of course 3 = 12 makes sense. To Volourn it does. The same way 5 = 10 does, amIrite, my pretty princess?

(the 5 = 10 equation arises from utter hilarity Volourn created over at the Codex)

@ Erynnar

And I dont' know about you, but I don't like having my leg pissed on and told it's only raining. If someone took a crap in their hand and sprinkled it with sugar and told me it was candy, I wouldn't eat it. And I wouldn't take the same turd wrapped in a bow either.

Thanks. Thanks heaps. Really.

My cat thanks you too. He'd tell you himself, but he is currently packing his suitcase and litterbox, because he's moving out. He simply adores being sprayed with coffee. With surgar and cream even.

Aw!!! Poor kitty! Sorry about that?

[rolson00]

 

Modifié par rolson00, 24 avril 2011 - 10:22 .

[rolson00]

sorry people my brothers laptop was glitching on me

Modifié par rolson00, 24 avril 2011 - 10:34 .

[DragonAgeFanatiiic]

Agamo45 wrote...

I have no problem with BW pushing the series in new directions, I do have a problem with the game having an insultingly low level of quality in several aspects. As a fan, am I just supposed to swallow that? No, I will not appreciate the developers for putting an unfinished game like this on the market.

Well said. BioWare unleashed a total and utter disaster on March 8th. I was so gutted playing it =( 

[Kissing the pink]

I think DA2 is a pile of poop compared to DA origins. You can see its just a console game now, far too linear, the area to explore is non-existant, all the caves look exactly the same, characters suck apart from Merril and Isabella, and as for the graphics, garbage so as to allow a console to work ok.
As you can see im really disappointed with it. Ive played it once and im already bored with it, where as with DA origins, ive lost count how many time I played that. EA suck along with whoever supported their advice in Bioware.

[Gleym]

Personally, I'm just disappointed by the amount of sheep there appear to be in Bioware's consumerbase. But sure, feel free to lash out at anyone who actually has a critique to make about the game, DA2-fans. You're the ones ensuring that one day you'll walk into a five star restaurant with stellar reviews, and be handed a microwave dinner whilst dumbly chirping, "Well, gee, this isn't what I was promised, but I guess I should be happy that I got SOMETHING at least. Here, have my $120 dollars for this full-course meal." and then eat your pre-heated meatballs with a smile, whilst scoffing at those complaining and declaring them ungrateful.

Modifié par Gleym, 05 mai 2011 - 09:03 .

[ladydj0]

I enjoyed both DA/origins/awakenings DA2. I'll enjoy DA multiplayer the most I think though whenever that comes out if ever!

[happy_daiz]

You know, for all the people that hated DA2, you sure spend a lot of time on the Bioware forums.

I'm just sayin...

[King_Friday]

^ Probably because we're fans of other Bioware games. Our complaint is with DAII not every game Bioware has released.

[Stanley Woo]

TheTranzor, Gleym, take it to private if you can't discuss your differences maturely and civilly. Leave your childish name-calling and insults out of the general discussion. Thanky ou.

[neppakyo]

yay! Im not the one in trouble with Mr Woo this time

happy_daiz, comments like yours are not very constructive either, can be interpreted as worse.

Now lets go back to the polite passive-aggressive arguments that we all enjoy

[kglaser]

yaw wrote...

Galad22 wrote...

But they didn't bring it further they brought it backwards, in almost every single way. Less complex, less long, less interesting, less everything.

You say they evolved DA2, I say they devolved it. Both are opinions, both might be just as correct.

QFT.

[Kilshrek]

ME 3, delivering 100% more shooter since 2185

Now can we please have that ridiculously outdated RPG sign removed? It has no place in a modern, streamlined game.