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[javierabegazo]

I rather agree with every assessment you've made of the origin stories. The introduction into the fade was so awesome, walking through the basement and seeing all those Tevinter Artifacts, just incredible.

And the Dwarf Noble was so great, and in my opinion even better if you play as a female.



When I first bought the game, I thought picking Dalish elf would be the best but it turned out to be the worst, so incredibly short lived and very incomplete. One little dungeoun, maybe 4 people to have extended conversation with, and not only that, but if you want the main story to really interact with you character, I felt EVERY other origin aside from dalish did really well.

But the city elf was so short. One of the things that got me so pumped to play this game is this one piece of concept art



http://tinypic.com/v...pic=2vkyio6&s=5



When I saw this I was just dumbfounded. The poor woman looked so desperate, quite heart wrenching

[Dtelm]

My only complaint with the dwarven noble one is the return to ozammar. Besides a couple people who say you shouldnt be there, and your kid if you slept with the golddiggers, Its pretty much as if you never existed, which is understandable considering you don't exist according to the records, but not at all satisfying.
I was also mad you couldnt just kill bhelen when you first met him, and that you couldnt have a paragon support you for king even though you could easily convince them to.


And by the way, you know you DONT have to help jowan in the mage origin. You can turn him in to the first enchanter.


Ultimately I thought Dwarven Noble, Human Noble, and Mage Origins were done the best and were the most fun.

Dwarven Commoner was fun, but I felt the two Elvish, while still fun, were a little short and not as fun as the others.

[javierabegazo]

lol, maybe in Dragon Age 2, they'll add "paragon/renegade interrupts" ala Mass Effect 2

[Saurel]

Reiella wrote...

 And the human noble origin just felt like a random pug invite in wow.

"Hai guyz!  U join blight raid nao!  kthx!"

Yeah the Human One is odd in its tie in. You would think after that you would only be dedicated to hunting down Howe.

The other ones are kind of akin to Duncan gets you out of trouble with the authorities and things are pretty much solved (dwarf noble aside, but it gets around it in a clever way).

The Human Noble one sets such a precedent for you to just be a blood thirsty Cousland after Howe.

[Dtelm]

I certainly hope not.

[SageGaspar]

Mage annoyed me because I don't really like Jowan and I thought the first enchanter was a schlep for making me play along.



The other two I played, I thought Dwarven Noble was amazing and only liked City Elf a little less, I thought the events in City Elf were pretty damn dark and it was satisfying to kill the hell out of the entire estate of bastards hehe. The human lords do seem a bit over the top evil, but if you suppose they really do view elves like cattle for their personal use it's probably not too far off the mark.

[Lughsan35]

Malkut wrote...

I wish the Dalish origin was better. I like the Dalish. The only good part was the ending, where your character takes a long, last, soulful look at his clan before leaving.

I was so upset with the Dalish for their failure to help me themselves and so put off by the keeper.. I killed them all with the werewolves...it was something Zath said to me that set me off..

[Mudzr]

I just finnished as the Dalish elf. I have to say that I realy enjoyed it, but I haven't even tried the other origins.

I don't know, I just felt attatched with the temps, and leaving the clan behind was moving. As for what happens after the start (MODERATE SPOILERS BELOW)



I was a tad dissapointed with the single appearance of your "nemisis" but that, and the recap by that ghost guarding the ashes was a nice reash, also, the option to help your clan at the end was nice, and it made me feel like I really made a differance. It was disspointing that you could't revisit your clan, and I felt there could have been more connections with Dalish elves you do encounter, but in the end I enjoyed it.

Now I'm reading this to get an idea of what to do next, i'm thinking perhaps female dwarf commoner or female human noble (only because apparently you can become *SPOILERS* queen). Maybe i'll play mage or dwarf noble after that, I just don't want all my stuff being taken away.

Besides, starting as a nobody and becomming the most important figure in the game sounds cool.

[Trelow-LMG]

Need a dwarven noble premium module, now. ~15-20 hours of that stuff would be rather swell.

[dannythefool]

I liked the city elf origin, but I played a female character and I guess it does feel a little different then.



The human noble one was interesting if a bit short. After it, you can tell all sorts of people that you want to go after Howe instead of fighting darkspawn and they'll tell you that you'll eventually get your chance for revenge, so that's fine in my book. It's unfortunate that you're only told out of character that you'll have to do something about Howe eventually (he appears in the cut scenes with Loghain).



The mage origin was disappointing. Why would Irving make you play along if he already has proof? And you don't really get closure on Jowan later unless you want to kill him. But you can't ultimately redeem him, which you might want to do if you are the sort of friend that helped him voluntarily in the first place.

[Jayce]

Endurium wrote...

I'll comment on only the origins I've played, so I'll use your numbers even though I haven't decided what order I like them best yet.

4. I agree about the voice acting, and it hurts to leave my character's parents behind. I get to bed sweet Iona but alas that's short lived, and as far as I know we never get to find/adopt her daughter in Denarim's alienage. The rest of it seems rather short and plain unless you're a rogue, which nearly doubles your explorable area. The staff your dog can find at random is probably the only mage staff a non-mage can wield. Diligent searching of this place with the dog has netted me every random item/gift except the book for Wynne. This would be my #2 origin with mage at #1, so far.

Quick note; Iona's daughter can be found in the alienage, very close to southern transition point. I haven't finished that quest yet so have no idea if you can do more than just speak to her.

[Miss Trips]

I've palyed through three, mage, city elf and dalish elf.



Of the three, I felt that the dalish gave me a better opinion of Duncan. He was very matter of fact of my character's chance to live and was offering a viable hope of her survival. She came away with a positive view on Duncan, whereas my very proper mage (who did set up the apprentice at the urging of her mentor) felt like Duncan was stealing her away from the mage tower and my city elf had nothing left and at least this shem would get her out of the city...

[interesting03]

Human Noble seems to be the most well thoughtout. Arl Howe isn't really important, unless you're a human noble, you don't get to choose certain special dialogue options near the end, unless you're a human noble and there is special dialogue with some of the denerim nobles, if you're a human noble.

Most fun though? Probably the dwarf noble origin or the dwarf commoner origin, the others are good, but they're either too short (elf origins) or too drawn out (mage origin).

Modifié par interesting03, 17 novembre 2009 - 08:51 .

[mattp420]

Soris is a much better character in the female city elf than the male city elf.

[Elessie]

Is it wrong that my favorite part of human noble origin is to click on Howe at the beginning, tell him "I just want to wish you well" and then watch him squirm a bit?

[Dragoness75]

I agree with a lot of what you've said, except I haven't run the dwarf origins yet. The Mage and Noble Human are my favorite. I do like the City Elf as a female as well. The Dalish orgin has been fun so far as I plan to make her have the Ranger Specialization.



I haven't completed the Human noble origin, but I am wondering if you get to meet up with the guy and talk personally with him.

[Kalfear]

Ive done the human noble and Dwarf noble so far and while the Dwarf noble is interesting and well done, its nothing you dont see when you visit the dwarf lands. Dwarf story only promotes Drawf politics, doesnt really do much for main storyline in all honesty.



The Male Human Noble is obviously the cannon version (if there was a cannon version) and sets up the main story the most, what with the betrayal by Howe and Loghain killing your family.



Ill be trying Elf mage in my 3rd play through but thats still far away as just now getting past the DLC stuff in 2nd play through so lots to do as a dwarf rogue yet.

[Reiella]

dannythefool wrote...

The mage origin was disappointing. Why would Irving make you play along if he already has proof? And you don't really get closure on Jowan later unless you want to kill him. But you can't ultimately redeem him, which you might want to do if you are the sort of friend that helped him voluntarily in the first place.

Because Irving wanted the Templar to suffer as well.  But ya, the 'siding with Irving' stance with the Mage origin was pretty odd, since it didn't feel to me that Greagoir had much of a leg to stand on trying to get rid of the player, could have gotten Irving in trouble sure.  Just a bit of forced along for the ride which y'know, has to happen to some extent, so *shrug*.

Perhaps the disappointment comes from the lack of depth into the politics for human noble, when compared to dwarf noble.  Just has the human noble caste looking far more idealisic and nieve [in my opinion] when you are contrasting them against the dwarf nobles.

[Jakia]

This is strange, because I really loved the human noble origin. It could have been cliche and bland, but because of your family, and the connections that make you feel like, this is my home. I knew ahead of time that my family would get killed, but I had no idea my *entire* family would get wiped out. I promised my nephew that I would teach him how to use a sword and then BAM he died. I found it really sad.



I also loved the dwarf noble origin, but like someone else said, it feels too tied to the dwarvian world alone. What happens there doesn't affect the rest of Fereldan like the human noble origin does, and I guess that is why I prefer the human noble one.



Dwarf commoner and Dalish elf were about equal in my book, though I did like both of them. I liked how crooked the life of the commoner is compared to the dwarf noble, and the scene where you have to remove your helmet to reveal who you are at the Provings...man, talk about epic! My love for the Dalish may be because I simply loved Tamlen, like, a lot, and I had read no spoilers about it so I wasn't sure what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised.



Ironically, the two I like the least are the city elf and the mage origins. With the city elf, I didn't feel as connected as I did to the human family, so idk. The rape and the wedding-crash make me feel like it's impossible for my city elf to be good. She doesn't want to protect humans. Humans ruined everything. And at heart, I am a light-sided player who favors the good, so playing the city elf is a bit difficult for me.



The mage origin was the worst for me. I was *immediately* suspicious of Jowan ("hey you poison Arl Eamon later why the hell are we friends?"--my immediate reaction.) Otherwise, I just didn't feel a sense of belonging. The Circle was suppose to be my home, but it didn't really feel that way, and I must say my character must have been as happy as I was to leave it. Serious, it just gave me a headache.



(I did love Cullen, however. That was one bright-side to the Origin).

[BluesMan1956]

David Falkayn wrote...

Curious...haven't played the Dwarf origins yet, although I've started the Dwarf commoner, but I'd rate the origins almost the opposite of how you rated them. I found the City Elf origin the most riveting with the human noble a close second. Of course, I played the City Elf as a female--try playing it as a female, I think you might find it a bit more visceral. The Mage storyline I felt kind of like many other fantasy quests--it was ok, but not great. As for the Dalish storyline, I agree that it has potential, but something is missing...maybe it's supposed to turn up later though...we'll see.

I agree,  Playing City Elf as a female was a lot more.... personal...  And after it I hated those foul, knuckle-dragging  humans more than I did when I started.  I want revenge

[Trelow-LMG]

Reiella wrote....  Just has the human noble caste looking far more idealisic and nieve [in my opinion] when you are contrasting them against the dwarf nobles.

Bow before your dwarven overlords.

[BluesMan1956]

Jakia wrote...

The mage origin was the worst for me. I was *immediately* suspicious of Jowan ("hey you poison Arl Eamon later why the hell are we friends?"--my immediate reaction.) Otherwise, I just didn't feel a sense of belonging. The Circle was suppose to be my home, but it didn't really feel that way, and I must say my character must have been as happy as I was to leave it. Serious, it just gave me a headache.

(I did love Cullen, however. That was one bright-side to the Origin).

I agree that there was not enough to give my elf mage a brackground or any sort of connecion with ANY of the mages in the tower, much less Jowan.  My first playthru, I did a favor for a friend (or so he told me he was my friend - I had to take his word for it...) even though it would set off both the Circle and the Templars.  And then he turns out to be a blood mage!  Fortunately Duncan was there to get me out of that madhouse and away from those damn self-righteous templars!

[BluesMan1956]

Jakia wrote...

I also loved the dwarf noble origin, but like someone else said, it feels too tied to the dwarvian world alone. What happens there doesn't affect the rest of Fereldan like the human noble origin does, and I guess that is why I prefer the human noble one.

And why shouldn't it be tied to the Dwarf World and it's Thaigs?  We care little for what goes on on the surface.  We have plenty of darkpawn to fight and we are a lot closer to the heart of the darkspawn than any human?

I was naiive and foolish to believe my younger brother had my back.  I allowed myself to be too caught up in the cheers of the Proving to take notice of the web of deciept that was being woven around me.

So says the once Lady Aeducan.  Now, sadly, a surface dweller amongst all manner of strange humans and  elves

Modifié par BluesMan1956, 17 novembre 2009 - 06:45 .

[Dussan2]

Human Noble did a great job establishing you as this noble son in a proud family. Not only that you got Pickles (Warhound) real early. Awesome sauce. But man, Howe's betrayal. Seeing your father half dead and all those dead people. Man when I got a peice of Howe towards the end it was pure payback.