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[BluesMan1956]

Dussan2 wrote...

Human Noble did a great job establishing you as this noble son in a proud family. Not only that you got Pickles (Warhound) real early. Awesome sauce. But man, Howe's betrayal. Seeing your father half dead and all those dead people. Man when I got a peice of Howe towards the end it was pure payback.

I should have seen it coming!  Should have tried to convince father not to trust Howe!  My suspicions were confirmed the second I spoke to one of Howe's guards.  I don't know what cesspool of humanity that guard was fished from.  The way he leered at me nearly made me vomit!
Poor mother!  Poor father!  I swear by all that is good that I will have my revenge upon Howe, darkspawn or no!

[Exile Isan]

I haven't yet played as a dwarf, but I'll rate the other backgrounds.

Human noble: I really actually like this background, but I played as a female character who is unhappy with her station, and one that seems to be railing against being married off and being the typical noble lady, so maybe it's colored my view of it a little. You also get Dog right off the bat how could you not love that? Also the acting is incredible and later during The Gauntlet if you had expressed regret to the Guardian that you didn't stay and die with your parents the scene with your father is probably the most emotional or at least it made me emotional. (I haven't reached Arl Howe yet.

Mage: The Fade and the Harrowing were good, but the part with Jowan fell a little flat. One of the better parts though was if you played as a female character and talked to Cullen, a Templar with a crush on a mage. Talk about tension, which also makes the scene later when he's trapped in the cage, with the blood mages using his thoughts of her against him, even more emotional and sad.

The City Elf background was good too, but I get the feeling it was only good as a female character rather than as a male character where it turns into the rather cliche damsel in distress bit. I mean there's still a damsel in distress, but it's a damsel saving her if you get my meaning.

The Dalish elf background had so much potential but was really lacking. Of all the backgrounds I think it's the worse, but I liked playing as a Dalish. I think the problem was that you didn't really connect to the characters in this background as much as you did with the Noble and City Elf origins.

So yeah, the Noble and City Elf backgrounds are my favorites.

[GmanFresh]

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[Crimson_Binome]

The Dwarf Noble is the best in my eyes. Gorim is a wonderful part-time companion, and someone I would pick up to use in my actual party. I liked him far more than Oghren. Also, the sheer degree you can make your character a ****** in it is marvelous. "Gorim, I do not remember addressing this man." Ah. Good times.



City Elf would be next for me. I really felt the most need for vengeance and retribution in this, more so than revenge for Duncan, or even in the human noble story. Granted. the humans in this are laughably, over the top evil, but I suppose it wasn't ludicrous enough that it didn't curb my desire to finish it in as bloody way as possible.



Human Noble is good, if a bit predictable. The voice acting really saves this. Even aside from the wonderful Tim Curry, the mother and father are very well done. Though if he calls me "Pup" one more time...



Dwarf Commoner is nice and ruthless. I can't say anything particularly good or bad about it. I'm a bit biased just because Dwarf Noble is so amazing.



Dalish and Mage are pretty lackluster for me. Both include fairly boring characters and unexciting locations. Though, paradoxically, the one new origin story I'd like to see if a a Dalish apostate magic user.

[04WigmoreB]

(I put them in order of how much I like them)

1.  Dwarf Noble:  I thought that this was definately the best Origin by far Storywise. The Political backstabbing was one of my favourite parts, and really influenced what I wanted to do later on in the game. (No way I would side with Bhelen after That!) Only downside is that my favourite class is a mage, but this is certainly the only Warrior Playthrough that I'm actually Enjoying.

2.  Mage: This being my favourite class, I quite enjoyed all the lore and depth that there was in the tower, and I quite enjoyed the Jowan Storyline. Managed to nurture a hatred of Templars for that character, because even though I was helping them out, they still tryed to have me killed. The actual carrying out of the story was rather boring though. You went into the basement, broke the vial, and there you go. I wanted to learn more about the talking statue, and the other areas of the mages tower. 

3.  City Elf: I thought that this Origin was great, and this was the one I used for my main rogue character, because I thought that this background would fit in more with that type of person. The storyline  of it was the only one other than the dwarven noble that actually had me care about the other people in the game. In the other Origins you just kind of forget about those smaller side characters. Disapointed that it didn't affect the alienage story part more though. (But I like the bit brought in at the end if you sacrifice yourself)

 4.  Dalish Elf.  I thought that this Origin could have been quite good, but as it was, It was pretty short and simple. A couple of the things you could do at the start were interesting but not much else.

5.  Human Noble:  Now this was probably the most annoying of all the Origins. 'Pup' anyone!? Thre isn't much to it, and I would have liked being able to do a few things around the castle before it's all gone and destroyed about five minutes in. One thing I will say is that it's unoriginal, generic, but it's meant to be like that (The comment about the rats in the adventure tales), and seems more of a mikey take at how other rpg's seem to start.

6.  Dwarf Commoner:  Really couldn't care less about this to be honest. I have no idea why, but it's probably because of my preference to play as elves more than anything else. I finished the Origin and deleted my character, so I have no idea how it would affect the story later on, although I assume it would have something to do with Jarvia.

[Crackseed]

I've done all origins except the 2 dwarf ones [I'll try them eventually - just not a fan of dwarves] but I do have a question w/o necessarily asking for a spoiler - with how the Dalish one ended. Do you actually find out what became of Tamlen later in the story?

[RazorrX]

Hmmm for me it would be:

#1 Dwarven Noble - By far the best origin story of them all. From the beginning to the end it was full of awesomeness. Almost makes me want to play a dwarf for full game. The way it ends is totally badass. "A few hundred darkspawn between me and freedom? No problem." BoooYEAH!

#2 City Elf - I loved the City Elf. It showed how really badly things were in the Alienage. How humans (Even in Ferelden) treat elves as lower than animals at times, etc. It had a wonderful feel as I got to wade through the castle trying to save my friends, only to arrive a bit too late as I found 1 dead and Shiani (sp) raped. They died hard for that one. (BTW I am not so sure she is your actual 'cousin' . Downside was a bit short and contrived.

#3 Dwarf Commoner - again you get the feeling for how bad things are for the castless. A tad short to me, but very interesting.

#4 Dalish Elf - I enjoyed it even though it was very short and redundant (Same area twice). I liked the ending very much though, as you are forced to leave your clan - very nice. The only one where you really felt like you had lost something important to you.

#5 Human Noble - The ending of this one is well acted, but it makes Duncan like a jerk. "I will ONLY save your family if you give me your son". The parents though were well done, and the inside joke with the nephew was awesome. Great stuff.

#6 Mage - I really thought I would like it more, but the Harrowing was just not very . . . Harrowing to me. It was like a give me. HOW could ANY mage fail? It is like saying "Okay here is your harrowing test: Is the ball Black or is it not really white?" The rest of it was okay but after the lameness of the horrid harrowing that mages supposedly fear to undergo, it just kind of fizzled after that.

I really wish all the origins were as excellent as the Dwarf Noble though, that one just sets a really high standard.

(Yes you meet Tamlen later)

Modifié par RazorrX, 17 novembre 2009 - 08:48 .

[Crimson_Binome]

 the inside joke with the nephew was awesome.

Speaking of inside jokes with the human noble, I really loved the nod to the beginning of Baldur's Gate when you were killing rats. Or I suppose adventure games in general. But I like to think it was a tip of the hat to its predecessor.

[5Warlocks]

I've only played Mage and Human Noble so far. I liked the Mage origin better in terms of actual gameplay and breadth, but Howe falls really flat as a villain without the Human origin, whereas with it you spend the entire game wanting to leave him a splatter on his floor, and seeing him in cutscenes with Loghain is a highlight.



If I had played any other origin but Noble first, I would have been like "who is that guy, and why is Tim Curry voicing such a useless character?"



I actually consider this one of the few flaws of the game's storytelling. Howe needs some more development outside of the Human Noble origin imo, especially considering how important he ends up being to Loghain's own character depth.

[Dark83]

Fudzie wrote...

I feel like I got gypped on the Dalish elf origin. Every other origin, doing everything I could, I hit maybe level 2 or 3 by the time I was done.

I didn't level up once in the Dalish Elf origin, and I scoured that place.

That's odd, I got at least 75% of the way to level 4.

I need to play through the dwarf origins. For the achievements, if nothing else. I hadn't read anything ahead of time (though now I've spoiled my dwarf origins), so everything was new and surprising. How the game ties your origin into the main story is important to me, I'll note.

I did the City Elf origin first, I really did enjoy rescuing the women and inflicting bloody justice upon those bastard nobility. I stopped playing this character because it was my first, and my build sucked, heh. Didn't even leave the hut. It took three tries to kill the ogre and I got disillusioned. Recently my ArcWar passed the Alienage and heard about the violence there, and now I'm all curious about playing a City Elf just to see what's affected in the game world.

When I did the Mage origin, I was still fresh and hadn't met Jowan before, so it was pretty neat. I did report him to Irving, and since he wanted me to help anyways, why not. I found it amusing that one of the Senior Enchanters would sign your form for you if you promised to zap random templors in the butt. The Fade was really neat, in any case. Going back and rescuing Irving, and getting Jowan to get you into the Fade afterwards was good. I liked it.

The Dalish Elf origin isn't bad, kindof an injun feel. I do wonder about those ruins. In hindsight, other than some odd behavour on Duncan's part, it didn't really seem all that interesting. I'm not sure how this Origin ties into the main story - again, seeing the origin play a part in the later game affects my opinion of it, which is why I liked the Mage when going back to the tower. I read that this origin doesn't have much to do with the main quest, though? Kind of loses it for me.

I liked the Human Noble origin, the set up is quite nice with your family and everything, and your big brother cheering you on for not sleeping alone, heh. Getting the dog early was neat, too. The attack got an immediate reaction out of me "No, my elf chick!"  and I feel this origin has the best tie in. After playing this one, I have a hard time not hating Howe with all my other characters.

I actually did all of those origins prior to getting any character out of Lordering, so Jowan or Howe's involvement in later affairs never impacted my opinion of them. The same with the dwarves. I hear that supporting Lord H actually goes badly for the dwarves in the ending, and Prince B actually gives them a good ending. Is that right? My dedication towards getting them a good ending might change if the Prince stabs me in the back during an origin, though.

[Korva]

Elessie wrote...

Is it wrong that my favorite part of human noble origin is to click on Howe at the beginning, tell him "I just want to wish you well" and then watch him squirm a bit?

Ha! That was nice yes. It was almost as if he regretted what he was about to do, for a moment. Or maybe he was just trying to hold back an Evil Villain Cackle at my characters' obliviousness.

I've done the human noble origin and am currently level 12 with the character, and I've been through the noble dwarf and Dalish origins too but deleted the characters to be remade later. The human noble origin is awesome IMO, it really made me feel at home. That was my castle, my family, and retainers I'd known for years or even from birth. It all felt very real, and "right". A wonderful home to grow up in, even if the parents were (understandably) overprotective of their youngest at first. And then ... it all comes crashing down on your head. The betrayal, the assault on the castle, and especially the farewell to my characters' doomed-to-die parents were horrible. Some say the origin is full of cliches, but so what? Better a tried-and-true formula done well -- and the origin is done VERY well -- than something that's done different just to be different but doesn't move me at all. The only downside is that the origin feels a bit small and short.

The noble dwarf origin is almost as good, though in a totally different way. I'm no fan of politics, but the setup intrigued me nonetheless. The interactions with the various nobles and lower-caste NPC were quite immersive (I laughed out loud at that one merchant who fainted when I simply talked to him), kicking butt in the Provings was satisfying, and the brief peek at the Deep Roads sparked my interest for more. What really makes that origin great, though, is Gorim. I love Gorim (in the platonic sense) -- his voice, his lines, his humor and especially his utter loyalty. The farewell scene in the jail, and then the banishment scene itself, were quite heartwrenching. Too bad he's not a party member, I'd gladly pay for a DLC that would allow us to recruit him!

In comparison to these two, the Dalish origin is ... meh. A small dungeon that you have to run through twice, and that's it. For some reason I didn't connect to any of the NPCs nearly as much as in the other origins. The tie-in with the greater plot is good, and I do like the Dalish and want to learn more about them, but the execution is rather bland. Little emotional involvement, for me.

I started with the mage origin but have to agree the Harrowing was quite bland for such a feared rite. Of course, those riddles would have been harder to solve if you had to come up with the answer alone instead of getting to pick it from a list of replies. And they cannot make it so hard it kills off most of the already rare mages, so maybe it is not not as fearsome as the apprentices think, if you're smart and keep your wits together. That said, I don't think I'll find much emotional involvement here either, though after going through the Broken Circle quest I do like Gregoir and Irving so it may be nice to see more of them. (Gregoir has the same VA as Master Zhar from KotOR, maybe that's why I like him. )

Modifié par Korva, 17 novembre 2009 - 10:09 .

[Dussan2]

I loved the whole family aspect with the Human noble. And not to spoil it, this is prob one of the reasons I like Morrigan as a friend so much, was that while talking to Morrigan about mothers, she asked about mine.



I was like "My mother was murdered" and she was stymied like all hell. No ****y come back, she knew that was pretty jacked up and sympathized honestly. Also your meeting with Howe. Pure win.



"There it is, that Cousland look that has held my family back for generation on end..."



No more discussion at that point it was time to kill. And that fight was awesome too, Howe kicks ass for an old guy.



But there was this feeling of being one of only TWO Teyrn in the whole kingdom. Second only to the friggin king.



I did the City Elf origin, but as a male. I think I need to redo that as female cause I hear it's completely different viewpoint on what went down. If so I am intrigued. I was not impressed with the City Elf as a male. I basically killed the ass that took my hot wife and cousin and won the day. Woopie.



Mage I liked. So many ways to play the angle. You could be the loyal and good little mage and inform on Jowan, or you could help him escape and become apostate because he is your friend. I chose the good little Uncle Magic-Tom route and sold him out to the man. And then watched the tale unfold.



I have not done any of the other ones yet.

[ToJKa1]

City Elf origin as a female PC was definetly most emotion invoking for me, i wholeheartedly enjoyed gutting those people in the mansion.



The Fade part in Mage origin could've been a bit longer, the Jowan part i don't really like either way.



Human noble was pretty meh.



Dalish gives the best reason to join Grey Wardens, but the quest was pretty lacking.



And i don't like playing as Dwarves, but i'll play the origins at some point atleast.

[SupidSeep]

I played the City Elf (female) first, but quickly abandoned in favour of the Dwarf noble. My dwarf princess expressed an interest in Gorim from the start, and was silently heartbroken upon finding Gorim in Denerium.



I almost clapped when I saw Trian's body, thinking: "Well played Bhelan." After being kicked out and receiving the final letter from our father along with the family Shield from Gorim, I returned to Ozammer determined to ruin Bhelan's day. I wonder what sort of feeling he had when his older sister whom he thought he gotten rid off march back into Ozammer to derail his plans for the throne.



I sometimes wonder whether it would be more satisfying to support Bhelan for the throne at first, then do a turnaround and give the crown to Harrowmount at the end.

[Rm80]

Dwarf noble is best, no real contest imo.....can't wait to return to Orzammar

[totertot]

I liked the human noble one the best, but I haven't played the dwarf ones. I didn't like Orzammar, myself...

[Nekator]

Crimson_Binome wrote...

The Dwarf Noble is the best in my eyes. Gorim is a wonderful part-time companion, and someone I would pick up to use in my actual party. I liked him far more than Oghren. Also, the sheer degree you can make your character a ****** in it is marvelous. "Gorim, I do not remember addressing this man." Ah. Good times.
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Fully agree, it was not only the best origin, but also really influenced my character.

Otherwise i would list City Elf, Human Noble and Mage as good to play origins.

Only the Dalish and the Dwarven Commoner were rather dissapointing.