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[Kristofer1]

 Ive been taking the books, so far three and now realized that they are just loot. Would it have been more beneficial to read or destroy them? I am talking about the blood mage books in act 2.

[Bathead]

Destroy all but the last one, or you won't be able to finish the quest, i.e., it will never be written off as finished in your journal.

[Pileyourbodies]

You must destroy them or you can't complete quest, you can read the last book for +2 attibutes and finishing the quest.

[Kristofer1]

how many books are there?

edit: also, can you destroy them in the loot portion of inventory and have that count?

Modifié par Kristofer1, 17 mars 2011 - 04:33 .

[Bathead]

If I read the guide right, there are six, destroy the first five, your journal entry will then update, travel to the area mentioned in the journal (with a rogue), read the sixth ( be ready for a huge fight).
I think it only counts if you destroy them when you find them. I don't think they even show up in your inventory, do they?

[PantheraOnca]

also, destroying them with merrill in your party will basically get you full rivalry. I think its 10 or 15 rivalry per book destroyed.

[MachDelta]

PantheraOnca wrote...

also, destroying them with merrill in your party will basically get you full rivalry. I think its 10 or 15 rivalry per book destroyed.

-10
Sadly, she doesn't give you any friendship for reading the last book. :\\
She did get a nice bloodmage staff out of the deal though.

[Kristofer1]

bummer i dont want to go back and find and read them. so outside of reading the last book there is no benefits?

[Thiefy]

damn are you serious? i was taking them because i thought i would get good loot in the end =/

[Raygereio]

Kristofer1 wrote...
bummer i dont want to go back and find and read them. so outside of reading the last book there is no benefits?

Aside from a fight at the end that has the potential to be pretty hard, some decent XP from that fight and some loot; no.

[Suron]

PantheraOnca wrote...

also, destroying them with merrill in your party will basically get you full rivalry. I think its 10 or 15 rivalry per book destroyed.

uh...no.  I had Merrill with me 99% of the time she possibly can be and she was with me when I DESTROYED EACH AND EVERY BOOK and not once did I get rivalry.

[termokanden]

Yeah I did the same and didn't get rivalry either. But I read the first book. Not sure if that makes a difference.

[plum thumbs]

This is one of the key issues of this game that I do not understand.

If you use a tome to gain the stat boost, did you not just commit an act of blood magic?

It would be great that if at some later point, either within DA 2 or an expansion, utilizing this type of blood magic would have a consequence beyond metagaming.

[Lithuasil]

plum thumbs wrote...

This is one of the key issues of this game that I do not understand.

If you use a tome to gain the stat boost, did you not just commit an act of blood magic?

It would be great that if at some later point, either within DA 2 or an expansion, utilizing this type of blood magic would have a consequence beyond metagaming.

It would be great if doing magic at all had consequences - they tried to handwave it by saying "you're the champion, and meredith blackmails you a bit", but seriously, single biggest flaw in an otherwise excellent game, right there.

[PantheraOnca]

Suron wrote...

PantheraOnca wrote...

also, destroying them with merrill in your party will basically get you full rivalry. I think its 10 or 15 rivalry per book destroyed.

uh...no.  I had Merrill with me 99% of the time she possibly can be and she was with me when I DESTROYED EACH AND EVERY BOOK and not once did I get rivalry.

Maybe another bug? I definitely got rivalry with her each time i destroyed a book, except for the last because she was already full rivalry.

did you have her at full rivalry or friendship? maybe that effects it?

[highcastle]

Lithuasil wrote...

plum thumbs wrote...

This is one of the key issues of this game that I do not understand.

If you use a tome to gain the stat boost, did you not just commit an act of blood magic?

It would be great that if at some later point, either within DA 2 or an expansion, utilizing this type of blood magic would have a consequence beyond metagaming.

It would be great if doing magic at all had consequences - they tried to handwave it by saying "you're the champion, and meredith blackmails you a bit", but seriously, single biggest flaw in an otherwise excellent game, right there.

I've done a rogue and a mage playthrough thus far. I definitely feel like being a mage has consequences. There are far more reactions about it. Even Cassandra in the frame narrative is quick to mention your status as an apostate. In fact, I'd say it reaches the levels I'd have a hard time ever playing as anything but a mage. And this comes from someone who played almost exclusively rogues in Origins.

[mcsupersport]

PantheraOnca wrote...

Suron wrote...

PantheraOnca wrote...

also, destroying them with merrill in your party will basically get you full rivalry. I think its 10 or 15 rivalry per book destroyed.

uh...no.  I had Merrill with me 99% of the time she possibly can be and she was with me when I DESTROYED EACH AND EVERY BOOK and not once did I get rivalry.

Maybe another bug? I definitely got rivalry with her each time i destroyed a book, except for the last because she was already full rivalry.

did you have her at full rivalry or friendship? maybe that effects it?

It was my understanding that once you max out rival/friend meter in one direction or another then you can't change/get opposite points anymore.  Otherwise if you have already maxed her on friendship and then destroy the books it will not make a difference she will not care.  Again this is just my understanding from reading something either in the manual or on this board by a bioware post.

[Lithuasil]

highcastle wrote...


I've done a rogue and a mage playthrough thus far. I definitely feel like being a mage has consequences. There are far more reactions about it. Even Cassandra in the frame narrative is quick to mention your status as an apostate. In fact, I'd say it reaches the levels I'd have a hard time ever playing as anything but a mage. And this comes from someone who played almost exclusively rogues in Origins.

It has consequences, but no real ones - some dialogue changes and that's more then many companies would do, we're still talking about bioware. Still the gameplay didn't change as drastic as it could have with relative ease. Merely changing dialogue up a bit, and moving a mages playerhome to the gallows at the start of act three, would have added to the games immersion indefinitely.

[Zaros]

What quest is everyone talking about?

I feel like I've missed something important now.

[caradoc2000]

Forbidden Knowledge quest - finding and destroying the tomes of evil.

[hAxberg]

I just found my first book in Sundermount cave, at the room where the nexus golem is. I didnt have a quest to go down here I just saw it on the map and went down out of curiosity. Anyway..
I read the first book and got 2 free attribute points. Right after I read the book there was a fight aswell. The fight was alot easier then the one I just had before being able to loot the book.

So what you say here in the thread seems wrong....

[caradoc2000]

You can read or take any of the books, you just won't be able to complete the quest if you do so.

[Kristofer1]

damn. i missed a lot of attributes. screw taking the books...

[AlexXIV]

Well I never managed to finish this quest because I always accidently sold at least one book. But this is kind of disappointing. You destroy them and get nothing, you read them and get 2 points? ...

Modifié par AlexXIV, 17 mars 2011 - 09:16 .

[caradoc2000]

If you destroy them you get the Xebenkeck boss battle.