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[vampireassassin]

Modifié par vampireassassin, 17 mars 2011 - 03:55 .

[vampireassassin]

a few people i know where wondering what that dark piece is under the red ribbon.

[rpgchick90]

It appears after the first love scene correct? In Act 2. Then I think in Act 3 he wears hawke's family crest.

[ejoslin]

rpgchick90 wrote...

It appears after the first love scene correct? In Act 2. Then I think in Act 3 he wears hawke's family crest.

He wears both the scarf and the crest after the scene with him.  But there IS something under the scarf.  I'm not sure what it is however.  Maybe it's just a tie.

Modifié par ejoslin, 17 mars 2011 - 11:26 .

[Malja]

I didn't even notice... whatever that is.

[Icewind136]

And I STILL don't quite understand what you're talking about...that little black thing sticking up from the top left in the picture?
I think I heard someone on the Fenris Discussion thread say something about thinking he was wearing a hawk feather. Fits with the family crest thing.
Anyway, with the ribbon, that makes sense if he's with FemHawke. Why would M!Hawke give him a red ribbon though?

[Malja]

Icewind136 wrote...

And I STILL don't quite understand what you're talking about...that little black thing sticking up from the top left in the picture?
I think I heard someone on the Fenris Discussion thread say something about thinking he was wearing a hawk feather. Fits with the family crest thing.
Anyway, with the ribbon, that makes sense if he's with FemHawke. Why would M!Hawke give him a red ribbon though?

Interesting idea, it being the feather of a hawk. It looks like a horrible mishmash of his textures rather than coloration though.

I doubt Hawke gave him the ribbon in the first place. (: Lady Hawke or not.

[LilyasAvalon]

It doesn't look like the tie of the ribbon, completey different colour. Wearing a Hawke feather seems most likely, but the shape is wrong to be a feather..

[Icewind136]

Malja wrote...

Icewind136 wrote...

And I STILL don't quite understand what you're talking about...that little black thing sticking up from the top left in the picture?
I think I heard someone on the Fenris Discussion thread say something about thinking he was wearing a hawk feather. Fits with the family crest thing.
Anyway, with the ribbon, that makes sense if he's with FemHawke. Why would M!Hawke give him a red ribbon though?

Interesting idea, it being the feather of a hawk. It looks like a horrible mishmash of his textures rather than coloration though.

I doubt Hawke gave him the ribbon in the first place. (: Lady Hawke or not.

Yeah, it's certainly not a good feather, if it is a feather.
Well, it shows up after you romance him, and only if you do, right? So I simply assumed it was related in some way.

[Malja]

Icewind136 wrote...

Malja wrote...

Icewind136 wrote...

And I STILL don't quite understand what you're talking about...that little black thing sticking up from the top left in the picture?
I think I heard someone on the Fenris Discussion thread say something about thinking he was wearing a hawk feather. Fits with the family crest thing.
Anyway, with the ribbon, that makes sense if he's with FemHawke. Why would M!Hawke give him a red ribbon though?

Interesting idea, it being the feather of a hawk. It looks like a horrible mishmash of his textures rather than coloration though.

I doubt Hawke gave him the ribbon in the first place. (: Lady Hawke or not.

Yeah, it's certainly not a good feather, if it is a feather.
Well, it shows up after you romance him, and only if you do, right? So I simply assumed it was related in some way.

Yep, only then. It's certainly a good idea though.

[ejoslin]

Icewind136 wrote...

Malja wrote...

Icewind136 wrote...

And I STILL don't quite understand what you're talking about...that little black thing sticking up from the top left in the picture?
I think I heard someone on the Fenris Discussion thread say something about thinking he was wearing a hawk feather. Fits with the family crest thing.
Anyway, with the ribbon, that makes sense if he's with FemHawke. Why would M!Hawke give him a red ribbon though?

Interesting idea, it being the feather of a hawk. It looks like a horrible mishmash of his textures rather than coloration though.

I doubt Hawke gave him the ribbon in the first place. (: Lady Hawke or not.

Yeah, it's certainly not a good feather, if it is a feather.
Well, it shows up after you romance him, and only if you do, right? So I simply assumed it was related in some way.

It is related.  David Gaider mentioned it in the official Fenris thread that it's Hawke's favor.  The scarf, that is, not the whatever-it-is.

[Icewind136]

ejoslin wrote...

Icewind136 wrote...

Malja wrote...

Icewind136 wrote...

And I STILL don't quite understand what you're talking about...that little black thing sticking up from the top left in the picture?
I think I heard someone on the Fenris Discussion thread say something about thinking he was wearing a hawk feather. Fits with the family crest thing.
Anyway, with the ribbon, that makes sense if he's with FemHawke. Why would M!Hawke give him a red ribbon though?

Interesting idea, it being the feather of a hawk. It looks like a horrible mishmash of his textures rather than coloration though.

I doubt Hawke gave him the ribbon in the first place. (: Lady Hawke or not.

Yeah, it's certainly not a good feather, if it is a feather.
Well, it shows up after you romance him, and only if you do, right? So I simply assumed it was related in some way.

It is related.  David Gaider mentioned it in the official Fenris thread that it's Hawke's favor.  The scarf, that is, not the whatever-it-is.

My original musings about why a male Hawke would have a ribbon on hand are still relevent, then.

[UltiPup]

A developer needs to confirm this. Fangirls everywhere need to know.

[panamakira]

What did Mr. Gaider mean with "Hawke's favor" in relation to the red scarf thingie Fenris wear as LI? Like you're mine, here wrap it around you? lol

[Malja]

Icewind136 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

It is related.  David Gaider mentioned it in the official Fenris thread that it's Hawke's favor.  The scarf, that is, not the whatever-it-is.

My original musings about why a male Hawke would have a ribbon on hand are still relevent, then.

I just meant I believe Fenris took it on himself to wear it. Not irrelevant to the relationship, obviously in note of, I just don't see Hawke asking Fenris to wear it let alone giving it to him to wear.

[ejoslin]

panamakira wrote...

What did Mr. Gaider mean with "Hawke's favor" in relation to the red scarf thingie Fenris wear as LI? Like you're mine, here wrap it around you? lol

The post is here.  make of it what you will.

[Malja]

My friend suggested it was the promise note... hahah. I laughed a good deal. I don't believe for a second it's a silly note, but the thought is too much.

[AtreiyaN7]

I think it's the equivalent of a medieval lady giving her knight/champion a garter or handkerchief (or something else) to show her favor. I think it's the red scarf thing that is the favor itself. No idea what the black thing is.

[panamakira]

Yeah I still don't know what Gaider meant. So Hawke is marking her territory is she? or maybe he wants her to mark him?

Interesting.....because that doesn't happen with any of the LI that I know of.

[ejoslin]

panamakira wrote...

Yeah I still don't know what Gaider meant. So Hawke is marking her territory is she? or maybe he wants her to mark him?

Interesting.....because that doesn't happen with any of the LI that I know of.

Perhaps just giving a visual clue that more is going on than what it seems.  He is saying one thing, but he is showing another.

And since it's a scarf, not a ribbon (I know you didn't say this, but I'm lazy about quoting more than one person), there's really no issue with a male Hawke having one around the house.

[Addai]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I think it's the equivalent of a medieval lady giving her knight/champion a garter or handkerchief (or something else) to show her favor. I think it's the red scarf thing that is the favor itself. No idea what the black thing is.

Yeah I interpret it in the medieval sense, where he fights for her, not necessarily like a high school ring exchange.  Not that it doesn't have romantic significance.  It was a thing in courtly knighthood to be in love with a lady who was unattainable.  Wearing her favor wouldn't necessarily mean they had a thing going, but that she was willing to honor him and he's fighting for her.

What I like about it is that it shows him moving from sticking around because he wants to "turn and face the tiger" (nice image from Seheron there), to being motivated to stay for Hawke as well.

[Malja]

Addai67 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I think it's the equivalent of a medieval lady giving her knight/champion a garter or handkerchief (or something else) to show her favor. I think it's the red scarf thing that is the favor itself. No idea what the black thing is.

Yeah I interpret it in the medieval sense, where he fights for her, not necessarily like a high school ring exchange.  Not that it doesn't have romantic significance.  It was a thing in courtly knighthood to be in love with a lady who was unattainable.  Wearing her favor wouldn't necessarily mean they had a thing going, but that she was willing to honor him and he's fighting for her.

What I like about it is that it shows him moving from sticking around because he wants to "turn and face the tiger" (nice image from Seheron there), to being motivated to stay for Hawke as well.

Thanks for the info on this. I didn't pay much thought to it other than what it is at face value,  so this interests me.

[Victia]

Thanks for this, I had been wondering it myself ! A favour was generally given by q lady to a knight or soldier to show her love, by wearing it the knights deeds in combat would bring her honour! It's very sweet and a nice visual clue fenris is still hawkes

[mousestalker]

"Tie a scarlet ribbon 'round the old elf slave
It's been five long years, am I whom you crave?"

[The Lesser Evil]

I can't help but think of the gay hankerchief code when I see the red cloth wrapped around Fenris's wrist. Especially not with how Fenris sticks his hand into people as DA's new murder knife and after Isabela asked Fenris about 'that fisting thing you do', and what a red hankerchief means in the gay hankerchief code (...er, into... well, fisting. >.>).

Modifié par The Lesser Evil, 18 mars 2011 - 12:05 .