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[aftohsix]

lsdiskewl wrote...


My experience is that Bioware actively buys reviews and has its employess attempt to falsify user reviews. Just a heads up.

Source please.  Besides that one person who was caught.  I'd like to see the bank transactions.  Dude you should start a videogame review / news blog so that I can cite your info as a source!

[jimmy_smith]

I enjoy DA:II
love the story of this game.

but for combat, I still prefer DA:O

[Krimson_Wolf]

jimmy_smith wrote...

I enjoy DA:II
love the story of this game.

but for combat, I still prefer DA:O

Like you, I too enjoied DA:II
but the story could have been a bit longer and possible more indepth
and the combat is way better in DA:II over DA:O

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Logikal1 wrote...

My first playthrough was 30+ hours.

I forced myself to finish it.

Complete trash of a game. BioWare is dead to me. I keep hoping I'll come to these forums and see an apology for this terrible product and a promise that there will be either free DLC with a Toolkit for the modders as well as an RPG version of Dragon Age 3

Hyperbole much

Also bad English much on the part of OP? "trash of a game"? "RPG version of Dragon Age 3"? Does Logikal1 mean a tabletop version or that Dragon Age II wasn't enough of an RPG?

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 18 février 2012 - 04:37 .

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

I totally agree that Dragon Age II is underrated but it also lacks polish among other problems.

In the case of Dragon Age: Origins and its expansion Awakening, BioWare had years to develop those. In that time they crafted a deep, rich world with its own fleshed out history and mythology, created well-develloped, deep characters (especially the companions), and had all the time they needed to create unique locations that never reused the same floorplan. The graphics were nothing to write home about, but that's never been the focus of BioWare. It's always been about story, characters, and immersion.

Dragon Age II has a good plot, arguably better than Dragon Age: Origins' generic "dark forces have invaded the land and the hero must defeat the dark overlord in order to stop their advance" (something BioWare still did artfully because they're good at playing with conventions, cliches and tropes; something a company like Bethesda mostly fails at due in part to the fact that they don't have writers of the same skill). Dragon Age II was the story of the rise of a man or woman from the status of refugee to Champion of a city-state in the course of a few short years, all the while getting involved in the mounting tension between Mages and the Chantry as well as the disturbing presence of fearsome religious fanatics called the Qun. DA II was all about politics, power, and prejudice. I wish BioWare had been given more time to work on the game because I strongly suspect we would have gotten a game that would have pleased more people.

But maybe beyond the limitations of time imposed on BioWare by EA, some fans were just upset because it wasn't about another Grey Warden (or their Grey Warden or Wardens from the first game; I know I would have liked the chance to import and play mine again) and it wasn't about another Blight and the big bad wasn't another Archdemon. People can be notoriously bad for needing sequels to be more of the same as the previous (be it game, book, movie). Take them outside of their comfort zone and they b**ch and moan about it.

Moving beyond plot, I can't say I liked or understood certain aesthetic changes: the Qunari were fine without horns and elves looked much better in Origins, looking like short humans with pointy ears. There was no reason to make them look like rodents. The pointy ears are enough to help us tell them apart and it's funny that Felicia Day's character Tallis ends up looking like an elf from the first game while most of the others (Merrill being another exception; even Fenris looked like a ferret in my opinion) don't. Kind of jarring. Also didn't care much for the Hurlock redesign.

I liked Dragon Age II well enough, but I agree with some of my fellow fans that it's a flawed masterpiece. I don't feel that it ruined the franchise or anything. I hope BioWare learns from this one because I sure as Hell don't expect EA to have learned anything at all. I hope Dragon Age 3 blows us away!

P.S. Does anyone else feel like BioWare signing on with EA was a deal with the Devil?

[AlexXIV]

Necro much? Honstly, answering to 11 months old threads is ... whatever.

[Monica83]

I imagine for someone flashy anim and jerkish anime combat is a good implementation......

poor humanity

[HanErlik]

So, Dragon Age II was underrated.

What is next? Bin Laden was misunderstood?

[KotorEffect3]

While it has it's problems and much of the criticism is valid DA 2 is a much better game than it is given credit for. I mean yeah it is not as good as it should have been but overall it is still enjoyable at least for me.

[Mr Fixit]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

Dragon Age II has a good plot, arguably better than Dragon Age: Origins' generic "dark forces have invaded the land and the hero must defeat the dark overlord in order to stop their advance" (something BioWare still did artfully because they're good at playing with conventions, cliches and tropes; something a company like Bethesda mostly fails at due in part to the fact that they don't have writers of the same skill). Dragon Age II was the story of the rise of a man or woman from the status of refugee to Champion of a city-state in the course of a few short years, all the while getting involved in the mounting tension between Mages and the Chantry as well as the disturbing presence of fearsome religious fanatics called the Qun. DA II was all about politics, power, and prejudice. I wish BioWare had been given more time to work on the game because I strongly suspect we would have gotten a game that would have pleased more people.

Is it underrated? I don't know. But playing it, I could *feel* the potential just oozing out of every sprite. I truly believe it could have been a great game had it been given proper treatment. Sadly, the end product leaves much to be desired.

HanErlik wrote...
What is next? Bin Laden was misunderstood?

No need to bring politics in here, but I do have beef with cherrypicking global baddies. Read into that what you will

Modifié par Mr Fixit, 18 février 2012 - 09:18 .

[KotorEffect3]

Mr Fixit wrote...

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

Dragon Age II has a good plot, arguably better than Dragon Age: Origins' generic "dark forces have invaded the land and the hero must defeat the dark overlord in order to stop their advance" (something BioWare still did artfully because they're good at playing with conventions, cliches and tropes; something a company like Bethesda mostly fails at due in part to the fact that they don't have writers of the same skill). Dragon Age II was the story of the rise of a man or woman from the status of refugee to Champion of a city-state in the course of a few short years, all the while getting involved in the mounting tension between Mages and the Chantry as well as the disturbing presence of fearsome religious fanatics called the Qun. DA II was all about politics, power, and prejudice. I wish BioWare had been given more time to work on the game because I strongly suspect we would have gotten a game that would have pleased more people.

Is it underrated? I don't know. But playing it, I could *feel* the potential just oozing out of every sprite. I truly believe it could have been a great game had it been given proper treatment. Sadly, the end product leaves much to be desired.

HanErlik wrote...
What is next? Bin Laden was misunderstood?

No need to bring politics in here, but I do have beef with cherrypicking global baddies. Read into that what you will

The thing with DA 2 the whole time I was playing it, it seemed like it was trying to build up to something big happening but instead it just kind of fizzles out in the end, still enjoyable to play but if Act 3 would have been more like Act 2 in that Act 2 delivered on it's buildup and climax the ending would have been much more satisfying.

[TEWR]

It is truly astonishing how people can consider DAII's combat animations to be "anime". Over the top in some places certainly, but to call it anime is just absurdly wrong.

Over the top =/= anime.

[salwyn]

I was one of the people who played the demo for DA2 and was so disappointed that I didn't want to play it. (I'll also admit I was butthurt b/c none of the characters from DA:O were going to be in it.) But on a whim, I bought it used back at the beginning of January and I'm now on my second playthrough. The game does have it's flaws but I just don't think it's that bad. I wish I had played it sooner. I just had to get it through my head that this was not Origins.

[taine]

I think it is properly rated in general.

It is a flawed, rushed game that still manages to be pretty fun, if not up to Bioware's usual standard.