She must have said more than that because Carver says something later about how the mother has taken it out on them.
How could anyone not love this game?
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#52
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 08:35
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It is easy to not love this game. I could do it, but choose not to. IF you are still interested, just follow these simple steps:
1) You will need to step outside (not a lame basement joke) for a moment. Now, rather than taking notice of the gentle dance of the wind-swept evergreens, instead look down at your feet and focus on the collection of cigarette butts scarring the causeway.
2) No step back into your home and rather than the moonlit Hawaiian landscape hanging behind your couch, turn towards the television news program blaring its world-on-fire message. DO NOT stop to think that a robbery at taco bell does not signify the end of the world! you will have to start over......
3) Sit down at your machine and start the game. Take care to pay no attention to the exquisite use of tone or intriguing switches in cadence and volume of Merrill's perfect voice. Nor should you allow default femHawke to trap you with the heart-stopping gaze of her immaculately-shaded blue eyes. Do NOT take note of that brilliant patch of hair that falls between her eyes! DONT DO IT!
4) Once you have completely closed your imagination and removed any chance that you may b emotionally vulnerable to the loss of others, let alone a cartoon character, you should try to adopt the general attitude of your middle school bully, or alcaholic father, or abusive ex-SO.
5) REMEMBER! that nothing is passable so long as there remains imperfection! Focus on what is wrong. Do not smile, or laugh or repeatedly click silly npc for new dialogues.
Congratulations!
You are now a pessimist. You will find that you have additional free time to dislike and criticize things due to your quickly-emptying calendar.
Feel free to completely ignore that feeling you encounter every time you complain that something is not as good as some other thing (while giving no real examples and proposing nothing in the way of corrections), or focus on those opinions and watch them fester into disgust.
Whatever you do though, and this is key, do NOT ever consider the simple truth that every complaint, every festering annoyance focused upon relentlessly, every fault carefully sought out and screamed to the world, actually poisons you far more than those things you seek to sunder.
1) You will need to step outside (not a lame basement joke) for a moment. Now, rather than taking notice of the gentle dance of the wind-swept evergreens, instead look down at your feet and focus on the collection of cigarette butts scarring the causeway.
2) No step back into your home and rather than the moonlit Hawaiian landscape hanging behind your couch, turn towards the television news program blaring its world-on-fire message. DO NOT stop to think that a robbery at taco bell does not signify the end of the world! you will have to start over......
3) Sit down at your machine and start the game. Take care to pay no attention to the exquisite use of tone or intriguing switches in cadence and volume of Merrill's perfect voice. Nor should you allow default femHawke to trap you with the heart-stopping gaze of her immaculately-shaded blue eyes. Do NOT take note of that brilliant patch of hair that falls between her eyes! DONT DO IT!
4) Once you have completely closed your imagination and removed any chance that you may b emotionally vulnerable to the loss of others, let alone a cartoon character, you should try to adopt the general attitude of your middle school bully, or alcaholic father, or abusive ex-SO.
5) REMEMBER! that nothing is passable so long as there remains imperfection! Focus on what is wrong. Do not smile, or laugh or repeatedly click silly npc for new dialogues.
Congratulations!
You are now a pessimist. You will find that you have additional free time to dislike and criticize things due to your quickly-emptying calendar.
Feel free to completely ignore that feeling you encounter every time you complain that something is not as good as some other thing (while giving no real examples and proposing nothing in the way of corrections), or focus on those opinions and watch them fester into disgust.
Whatever you do though, and this is key, do NOT ever consider the simple truth that every complaint, every festering annoyance focused upon relentlessly, every fault carefully sought out and screamed to the world, actually poisons you far more than those things you seek to sunder.
#53
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 08:36
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Deylar wrote...
Gamer Ftw wrote...
you are only seeing the short term effect I mean at the end you achieved change in a geater scale.
assuming you didn't bow to the chantry.
Same ending for everyone.
And I have no play time after I beat the game.
Champion means nothing, btw.
I used this example once before. Look at a game like the Elder Scrolls Oblivion for a second. In Oblivion I could become a count and a guildmaster.
Countless times as a count, I was asked do I want to take this quest or have someone do it for me. Of course I choose I am going to do it, however, it still felt like I had power.
Same as a Guildmaster, I could set up budgest, control and influence a certain amount of people.
In DA 2 when I became Champion it feels as if I have no power. Its just some fancy title, but there is nothing really to do with Champion. There really is nothing of being a Champion. I influence no one. And I am still babysitting people.
Agree with you on this one... And well everything else you've written.
I would have liked to see Hawke have some real influence instead of being a pawn for other people.
Just started to read again A Song for Ice and Fire and I'd like to be able to play as a character like Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish on this game. Not so much direct approch on things but working behind the curtain.
#55
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 08:39
Gamer Ftw
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or maybe not I have been up for 72 hours hard to tell
#56
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 08:39
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Game was a solid 8 until act 3 then went to a solid 7.
#57
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 08:49
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Quasit wrote...
Agree with you on this one... And well everything else you've written.
I would have liked to see Hawke have some real influence instead of being a pawn for other people.
Just started to read again A Song for Ice and Fire and I'd like to be able to play as a character like Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish on this game. Not so much direct approch on things but working behind the curtain.
Do not tell me I'm Champion, but Kirkwall shows no gratitude.
A mansion is not a reward.
A statue with my achievement is a reward. Erect a statue in my honor in the gallows of Kirkwall or wherever else.
More minor influence is also a reward.
A new mansion and a fancy title with nothing attached to is...well kind of lame. Hawke is now noble, but with no real noble status.
#58
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 09:28
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This game did fall short of Origins and slightly above or tied with Awakening. It should have been far above both though.
What I didn't like:
1.) They used the same maps over and over and over again. If the "Champion" were to make a real difference, the city should have changed with his decisions. Put a lot of money into Low Town? Then it should become more "Ritzy" like High Town. Basically, there was no reason why they couldn't have made it so you could invest in the city and make it a better place.
Having done that, then you'd actually give a dang about what happens to the city.
2.) Lack of Choice.
We were given the "Illusion of Choice" throughout the entire campaign. I'd have liked to have my choices count for something.
3.) Slow start
I was positively bored up to the first romp in the Deep Roads. I see what they did in the story telling with that, so I guess it's okay, but could have been a lot better.
What I liked
1.) The story within the story.
Yep... that was some dang good writing and story telling. Only thing was it was a spoiler that Varric wasn't going to die...
It kind of took away the sense of dread for him when he was kidnapped by the Mage rebellion.
2.) Lack of Choice
Yep... this was a like/dislike.
I liked the lack of choice only after seeing how the story would unravel. It basically put your character down as "just some guy/gal trying to make it in the world post-blight.
3.) The ending. This will contract some of what I said already (haha), but I like how Varric explained how it was Meredeth's fault, or Anders' fault or even the Circle's fault.... or was it the fault of the Champion? They never would have found the idol without the champion... the balance of power between Templar and Mage would have been sustained had the Templars not thought Meredeth to be insane (which she was... hehe)
4.) Character development and tying in the story segments. A+ guys... for one play-through.
All in all.... it fell short of my $60. I'd have paid $30 for it had I known. About the same I'd pay to go out to the movies with my girlfriend or to buy a nice hard-cover book.
Had they made it so your choices affected Kirkwall between each 3 year act (physically, politically, economically) then it would have been worth the full price of admission.
Will I continue to buy Bioware titles at release prices? No. This one finished that for me. It's not worth the price of admission... if they go the DLC route to "fix things" on titles like many are doing these days - I consider that a bad business move long term and no longer invest at all.
All in all - pretty good game... once.
What I didn't like:
1.) They used the same maps over and over and over again. If the "Champion" were to make a real difference, the city should have changed with his decisions. Put a lot of money into Low Town? Then it should become more "Ritzy" like High Town. Basically, there was no reason why they couldn't have made it so you could invest in the city and make it a better place.
Having done that, then you'd actually give a dang about what happens to the city.
2.) Lack of Choice.
We were given the "Illusion of Choice" throughout the entire campaign. I'd have liked to have my choices count for something.
3.) Slow start
I was positively bored up to the first romp in the Deep Roads. I see what they did in the story telling with that, so I guess it's okay, but could have been a lot better.
What I liked
1.) The story within the story.
Yep... that was some dang good writing and story telling. Only thing was it was a spoiler that Varric wasn't going to die...
It kind of took away the sense of dread for him when he was kidnapped by the Mage rebellion.
2.) Lack of Choice
Yep... this was a like/dislike.
I liked the lack of choice only after seeing how the story would unravel. It basically put your character down as "just some guy/gal trying to make it in the world post-blight.
3.) The ending. This will contract some of what I said already (haha), but I like how Varric explained how it was Meredeth's fault, or Anders' fault or even the Circle's fault.... or was it the fault of the Champion? They never would have found the idol without the champion... the balance of power between Templar and Mage would have been sustained had the Templars not thought Meredeth to be insane (which she was... hehe)
4.) Character development and tying in the story segments. A+ guys... for one play-through.
All in all.... it fell short of my $60. I'd have paid $30 for it had I known. About the same I'd pay to go out to the movies with my girlfriend or to buy a nice hard-cover book.
Had they made it so your choices affected Kirkwall between each 3 year act (physically, politically, economically) then it would have been worth the full price of admission.
Will I continue to buy Bioware titles at release prices? No. This one finished that for me. It's not worth the price of admission... if they go the DLC route to "fix things" on titles like many are doing these days - I consider that a bad business move long term and no longer invest at all.
All in all - pretty good game... once.
#59
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:34
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20x6, I think you said it perfectly. Its a pretty good game... once. Massive lack of re playability hurts the game. Even for romance options because you can nail everyone in a single playthrough.
