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[Eternal Phoenix]

So we found out that he killed those Darkspawn in Fort Drakon (or something) by using a bomb since he gives Hawke a bomb when Hawke asks how he killed the darkspawn in the deep roads. When Hawke asks how he froze the ogre, Sandal replies "Not Enchantment" debunking Sandal's fans claims that his enchantment kills. So just how did he freeze that ogre? Could he be a mage? The first dwarfen one? If so, why did he need a bomb to kill the other Darkspawn? I guess the Sandal Investigation shall continue in DA3...

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 18 juin 2011 - 02:26 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

I guess this mystery is so mysterious that the mysterious forum users don't even have an answer for it...this is mysterious and suspicious.

[Aesieru]

No, I think in the first game he used a dwarven bomb.

In the second game he used a few dwarven bombs of his own making because he fidgets with enchantments all the time, he may have simply used an enchanted bomb.

[Medhia Nox]

Except he states: "Not Enchantment"

[Chewu]

Maybe when ogre looked Sandal in his ice cold eyes, he froze to death?

[AL-istaria]

I don't think that was a bomb he had. He gives it to Hawke, and that's when he/she gains "Sandal's special rune" in the inventory.

[CRISIS1717]

Maybe he can cast spells with the raw power of the runes? it wouldn't be enchantment it'd be spellcasting.

[Romantiq]

Sandal says, "BOOM".

Modifié par Romantiq, 17 mars 2011 - 07:28 .

[Boradam]

Sandal is Flemeth's son, it's the only possibe explanation.

[Aesieru]

Maybe he actually develops real explosives?

[gauntz]

Heard someone a few months back in an Origins discussion suggest that Sandal might inf act be Dumat, the Old God of Silence, surviving in another form. Don't remember the logic behind it since Sandal appears to be simple-minded, not mute. Then again, if Bioware is planning to do anything with that character, I think some kind of Old God-related stuff or mystic dwarven magic/lyrium thing is probable, not something directly Fade/demon related.

[Soilborn88]

He froze the ogre and said it wasn't an enchantment so how else did it freeze?

He obviously has magic and its because of his lyrium exposure.

[Archdemon Cthulhu]

My bets are he's a dwarven mage savant but only uses his powers when in danger, kind of like certain autistic children only respond violently to specific things they see as threats.

[Pileyourbodies]

Sandals powers also work against demons...a helluva lot of demons we should look into that too.

[Nyaore]

Didn't Bodhan find Sandal in the Deep Roads when he was younger? I have to wonder if Sandal isn't somehow connected to the Dwarves from the ruins of the temple that held the idol in the first act. One of the people in the expedition, I think it was either Varric or Bertrand, mentioned that said temple looked like it had been made with magic or something to that effect - and when we visit we see that it's filled to the brim with shades and other fade creatures. Yet we're never told what happened to the dwarves that made it. All we're left to assume is that the Thaig was abandoned at some point and forgotten long before the first Blight. We don't know if some surived and integrated with other parts of Dwarven soceity, or made their own enclave somewhere else in the Deep Roads. It's probably a long shot, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sandal is somehow descended from them.

[Pileyourbodies]

i highly doubt Bodhan found sandal anywhere near the ruins. Those deep roads are near Kirkwall. Kirkwall is a 2 week trip, by ship, from Fereldan. Sandal even with his powers would never had made it all the way to Ozammar. the deeproads span across the continent but the distances involved are huge.

[Gamer Ftw]

but mages can't enchant.

[Pileyourbodies]

Human and elf mages can't. Human and elf mages also die to raw lyrium exposure, Dwarves do not.

[Gamer Ftw]

Dwarves can't use magic.

[Nyaore]

Pileyourbodies wrote...

i highly doubt Bodhan found sandal anywhere near the ruins. Those deep roads are near Kirkwall. Kirkwall is a 2 week trip, by ship, from Fereldan. Sandal even with his powers would never had made it all the way to Ozammar. the deeproads span across the continent but the distances involved are huge.

Hence the 'made their own enclave somewhere else in the Deep Roads' part of my initial post. This whole matter happened before the first Blight if Bertrand's speculation is to be believed, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine that they could have set up shop somewhere nearer to Orzammar before the Darkspawn swarmed the tunnels. If that happened it isn't impossible to imagine that the community eventually married out to other Thaigs while keeping their secrets. Then again this is all speculation,  and I'm well aware that what I posed is one of the less likely theories. Still felt like it needed to be put out there. *shrug*

[TobiTobsen]

Sandal is the Maker! He can do whatever he wants! Entchantment or not!

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 17 mars 2011 - 08:20 .

[guardian of hades]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Dwarves can't use magic.

As far as we know.  However our encounters with Dwarves are limited as they are only from one area: Orzammar.

Hawke even jokes about him being the first dwarven mage.  However Bodhan counters that by saying that mages don't do enchantments

All we know is that is he is an enchantment savant that evidently has abilites that we don't about (see frozen ogre) and that if you talk to him enough times he makes a prophecy about all the magic returning.  There is definitely something up with him. 

[shaneho78]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Sandal is the Maker! He can do whatever he wants! Entchantment or not!

What separates act 2 from other 2 acts is that you don't find Sandal amidst a ton of Quanari corpses. This shows that the maker approves of the quanari! 

Modifié par shaneho78, 17 mars 2011 - 08:26 .

[Redheadqueen]

Yes, he did find Sandal in the Deep Roads. The Tevinter Imperium finds him highly interesting, which must mean something since they're basically the "Magical Imperium". Also, he's killed a hell lot of Darkspawn and an Ogre, and frozen one, single-handedly.
There is indeed something about this boy, but being the Maker is maybe a bit far...

[Redheadqueen]

Boradam wrote...

Sandal is Flemeth's son, it's the only possibe explanation.

But there's only legends of Flemeth's daughters. And if she did it with a dwarf she could've risked gotten a dwarf-girl, and that wouldn't do because they can't do magic, and then she couldn't have continued her sick life like she has.