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[flamechamp23]

I don't see why not.  Look, Dragon age Origins will be great and this is an objective statement.  But two things that I really like in my games- grinding for godly gear and messing around in a group of 5 or 10 people & being as useless as possible.

If dragon age origins (and possible sequels) becomes very successful and an mmo is spawned from this game, nothing can stop it since the world of Ferelden is huge and has everything a medieval world should have- dwarves, noobelfs, swords, magic, exploring, and all that stuff.

things i would like to see-

1. horses obtainable at level 1.
2.  Huge level caps, like level 250 cap in sacred 2.
3.  color coded loot- I'm disappointed dragon age origins doesn't have this since I love my gear to have colors.
4.  I'm fine with just 3 classes in a dragon age mmo, but I want classes to have like 20 specialization trees or something.

what do you think, folks?

Modifié par flamechamp23, 29 octobre 2009 - 12:22 .

[Staylost]

If this is what comes from DA:0 being successful, then I hope sales for this game are abysmal.

It also sounds like you are really excited for Diable III, which will probably be fun in its own way.

Modifié par Staylost, 29 octobre 2009 - 06:25 .

[flamechamp23]

yea i am excited for diablo 3 as well, but what, the game was announced like 2 years ago and it still won't be out until like 2012 if we're lucky. No reason to even acknowledge diablo 3's existence until it gets a release date.

[SilentCid]

I don't think it would make an MMO with the Dragon Age: Origins franchise anytime soon. They already have one MMO coming out from the KOTOR franchise so just focusing on what they have would be the best thing to do, I still like your ideas though.

[On_Slaught]

Please god no.

Oh, and Bioware is already making the Star Wars mmo... I find it unlikely they would create competition for their own game.

Btw, when are the devs going to ban this troll? Almost half of his posts have been a new thread, most of which are flamebait or utter garbage.

Modifié par On_Slaught, 29 octobre 2009 - 06:31 .

[Dlai]

@ op



Oh God no.

[flamechamp23]

i have never even heard about this star wars mmo. you sure it isn't called mass effect 2?

[Riot Inducer]

What Staylost said. Many many fans of the old Warcraft games do not like the MMO iteration. And I must say I really don't enjoy the things you do about MMOs, sorry but grind, especially equipment grind, usually turns me off of a game pretty quick.



Suffice to say it takes a very big following and many awards to warrant spin offs of games. We'd probably see sequels to DA:O before an MMO version. But assuming that much we won't likely know of such plans until several years from now.

[LemuresXL]

Well I dunno why to oppose an mmo so strongly...



But the premise of your question is so far off. If the game sells well, then you'll get a sequel. You'll probaly even be able to buy a T-Shirt. Selling well doesn't mean "Make an mmo". It never has. I'm not saying they never will make a DAO mmo... But more will have to come then just selling well.



Oh, and Warcraft 3 was just a setup for WoW... WoW was in development before Warcraft 3 ever came out, so that part of your statement is also blown out.



My point, with pointing out those falsehoods to you, is just that your looking at it in the wrong way. MMO's are made in hopes of making money with a good idea. Obviously Blizzard thought that Warcraft lent it self perfectly for an MMO and that they had good ideas.



Bioware is making their first attempt at an mmo with Star Wars... My bet is, they will see how they do with that, then think about future mmo's.

[Malvicus]

Wow... flame champ... you're skills at stirring up debate is... admirable. Horses at level 1... i nearly choked on my own saliva after reading that.

[Twitchmonkey]

I don't see any reason why there wouldn't be a DA MMO except for the fact that TOR will be out soon. That alone pretty much rules out them making any MMO for the next 5-6 years unless TOR completely flops and thus having their games compete for market share isn't a concern. I'd say that's pretty doubtful though.

[Lucy Glitter]

God I hope not.

[Althaz]

It is certainly possible, but to be honest I don't think it would be in Bioware's best interests, certainly not right away at least. Releasing hard-core games like Baldur's Gate and Dragon Age builds their reputation and contributes to the sales of their other more mainstream games (KotOR, Mass Effect) and will also help convince people to give their MMO a try if they like their single-player games.



Their MMO will be the guaranteed to make a squillion dollars cash-cow known as The Old Republic. The two different game types (actually there will be three with ME) will capture differing yet similar audiences and contribute to each other's success. That's a big reason why EA has allowed the production of DA:O to go on so long, because they are also convinced of this.



Once TOR eventually begins to die then it'll be time for the next MMO which could well be Dragon Age related, but we're talking five years MINIMUM down the track and probably more like seven to ten years.

[LemuresXL]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

I don't see any reason why there wouldn't be a DA MMO except for the fact that TOR will be out soon. That alone pretty much rules out them making any MMO for the next 5-6 years unless TOR completely flops and thus having their games compete for market share isn't a concern. I'd say that's pretty doubtful though.

This notion that a company won't make an mmo near the reelease of one of their other mmo's is going to be blown out of the water soon.  The thoery is that said company doesn't want to canabalize their own game. 

Well think it through a bit more.  You make MMO (A) and have great success with it.  Company Omega is going to release an MMO that will compete with your MMO (A) and maybe take some sales.  You have an idea though for an MMO ( that could compete with MMO (A) and Company Omega's MMO.

In the end, you do canabalize some of MMO (A), but some of those who would leave MMO (A) for Company Omega's MMO went to MMO ( instead which is also yours. 

With that...  Saying it won't be for 5 or 6 years is one hell of a guess.  More valid would be 1-15 years.  Or lets just say 1-35 years.... that should be a safe bet.

[Arttis]

I would say no.I cant imagine this story being stretched out and turned into a MMO game.

[MrGOH]

If DA:O does well, that means folks like well developed, party-based, single-player dark fantasy RPG's. What's an MMO got to do with it?



I think they'll do some sort of multiplayer in Thedas if DA:O does really well, though I'm not certain it would, or that it wouldn't, be an MMO.

[LemuresXL]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

God I hope not.

I'm wondering why all the "God I hope not". 
A. Does it come from a dislike for mmo's and your afraid the goverment will force you to play it?
B. Do you think the Single Player game will suffer?  Less sequels for single?
C. MMO's kill third world children daily.
D. Do you believe MMO's are a bane to society?
E.  Why play an MMO all day in your undies when you could be playing a single player game all day in your undies?

[Darthnemesis2]

flamechamp23 wrote...
I fail at life because I'm a useless troll.

Why yes, yes you are.

[Terwox_]

DA and MMO in the same sentence... No, just... no.

[MrGOH]

LemuresXL wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

God I hope not.

I'm wondering why all the "God I hope not". 
A. Does it come from a dislike for mmo's and your afraid the goverment will force you to play it?
B. Do you think the Single Player game will suffer?  Less sequels for single?
C. MMO's kill third world children daily.
D. Do you believe MMO's are a bane to society?
E.  Why play an MMO all day in your undies when you could be playing a single player game all day in your undies?

My fear is B - I don't think it would happen, but it's an irrational fear. I am not an MMO fan and am not interested in playing MMO's, even made by Bioware. I'd hate to see the best of the development team focus on a product I'll never play. It also plays into the fear that the deep single-player RPG genre I love will die off.

Again, this is not particularly rational - it's just an emotional response to the thought of Bioware turning into an MMO exclusive development house.I don't thin there's a danger of that, really. 

[Twitchmonkey]

LemuresXL wrote...

This notion that a company won't make an mmo near the reelease of one of their other mmo's is going to be blown out of the water soon.  The thoery is that said company doesn't want to canabalize their own game. 

Well think it through a bit more.  You make MMO (A) and have great success with it.  Company Omega is going to release an MMO that will compete with your MMO (A) and maybe take some sales.  You have an idea though for an MMO ( that could compete with MMO (A) and Company Omega's MMO.

In the end, you do canabalize some of MMO (A), but some of those who would leave MMO (A) for Company Omega's MMO went to MMO ( instead which is also yours. 

With that...  Saying it won't be for 5 or 6 years is one hell of a guess.  More valid would be 1-15 years.  Or lets just say 1-35 years.... that should be a safe bet.

That's just not how it happens. At least I can't think of a developer that had a successful MMO out that released another in less than 5-6 years time. In the hypothetical you posed, to be able to stop people from leaving the company by creating another MMO to absorb losses to another MMO from a competing company, this would require not only dividing the team at the very time that they would want to have their strongest showing, but to also release an MMO to compete with this competitor that has likely been working in their project for at least a year before announcing it. So you're destracting from your existing success and trying to throw together something new in an inadequate amount of time to compete, it just doesn't make sense.

Maybe after releasing TOR, BW won't ever release another MMO, or won't release another for 30 years, but that doesn't make much sense either. If you've got a successful MMO title, like TOR most likely will be, why not develop more MMO titles?

[frags81]

Terwox_ wrote...

DA and MMO in the same sentence... No, just... no.

QFT

[Herr Uhl]

As in most of flamechamps topics: No, god no!

[LemuresXL]

Twitchmonkey wrote...


That's just not how it happens. At least I can't think of a developer that had a successful MMO out that released another in less than 5-6 years time.

Since when did companies not try to have as much of a monopaly as they possibly could?

And I'll name Turbine for you as one company.  SoE as another.  FunCom maybe another soon.  EA.  Believe it or not, MMO as a genre is still very much in it's baby years.  You'll see companies doing it more as time goes by.

[Terwox_]

LemuresXL wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

God I hope not.

I'm wondering why all the "God I hope not". 
A. Does it come from a dislike for mmo's and your afraid the goverment will force you to play it?
B. Do you think the Single Player game will suffer?  Less sequels for single?
C. MMO's kill third world children daily.
D. Do you believe MMO's are a bane to society?
E.  Why play an MMO all day in your undies when you could be playing a single player game all day in your undies?

Because an MMO is basically a psycotic serial killer disguising him/herself as friend or family so he/she can murder you in your sleep.

Or the more serious explaination.

Coz MMO's are nothing but utter grind trying to slap on shiny pieces of glittering objects, in the hopes you will be so distracted you won't notice you're just doing the same utterly dull unimaginative tasks over and over and over again.

Its just the nature off the beast.