Absolutely not. Game of the year will be one of the following:
Mass Effect 3
Portal 2
Crysis 2
L.A. Noire
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Battlefield 3
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Dragon Age 2 has zero chance
Can Dragon Age 2 contend for goty?
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#77
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:39
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sympathy4saren wrote...
Absolutely not. Game of the year will be one of the following:
Mass Effect 3
Portal 2
Crysis 2
L.A. Noire
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Battlefield 3
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Dragon Age 2 has zero chance
Shame on you for not mentioning Deus Ex Human Revolution. It's pretty much a shoe-in.
#78
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:39
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:LA Noire will be game of the year. No question in my mind about that. Maybe Skyrim if it's a lot better than the tragedy that was Fallout 3.
DA2 is a great game, but 8/10 =/= GOTY material.
DA2 is a great game, but 8/10 =/= GOTY material.
#79
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:42
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Hell F'n No. If blizzard finishes D3 anytime soon, it'll take it over skyrim. I'm keepin my eye on Rage though.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:43
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DA2 will more than likely not win game of the year, but then again, Origins wouldn't win against this competition either.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:43
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#82
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:45
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No, Skyrim will take it.
Oblivion would similarly annihilate DA:O.
Nothing wrong with Bioware games, but Bethesda games have a more universal appeal.
I believe Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning has a chance...a chance...at being better than Skyrim. Portal 2 is going to be right there as well. Valve has refined that...and then refined it again, giving quadrupling game time and adding new features.
Bethesda's rigid and stiff combat, along with dull character's and dialogue presentation, is unpopular among many gamers. It's a solid candidate, though.
Plus...don't forget Mass Effect 3
#83
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:46
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WoooDoggie wrote...
sympathy4saren wrote...
Absolutely not. Game of the year will be one of the following:
Mass Effect 3
Portal 2
Crysis 2
L.A. Noire
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Battlefield 3
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Dragon Age 2 has zero chance
Shame on you for not mentioning Deus Ex Human Revolution. It's pretty much a shoe-in.
Shame on neither of you mentioning the Witchher 2.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:46
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Few87 wrote...
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
^Sums it up nicely.
#85
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:47
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sympathy4saren wrote...
Bethesda's rigid and stiff combat, along with dull character's and dialogue presentation, is unpopular among many gamers. It's a solid candidate, though.
Yet so many people like the formula that the Elder Scrolls games have, and they want it to stay that way.
I've said it lots of times - Story alone does not determine the quality of a game.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:49
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Bethesda games ALWAYS get game of the year (I don't mean published but developed)
TES3, TES4, Fo3, and Skyrim will be too
TES3, TES4, Fo3, and Skyrim will be too
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:53
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Well, maybe Skyrim and Human Revolution will also be cynical rush-jobs? After all, that's what happened with the previous Deus Ex sequel.
There's less of a chance that Bethesda will be so foolish as to tarnish the name of their signature property, though -- they've taken the years to invest in the growth of their IP, and it looks set to move the genre forward and advance their reputation once again.
That investment of time is what a big RPG needs, and it does make money -- a lot of money -- when it's done right and when you have the attention of an audience -- as Dragon Age did after Origins.
By the same token, Deus Ex had a rushed, sloppy sequel, and years later, the series has found investers and is coming back to (hopefully) do the job right. So it IS possible to salvage a beloved series from this kind of misstep.
There's less of a chance that Bethesda will be so foolish as to tarnish the name of their signature property, though -- they've taken the years to invest in the growth of their IP, and it looks set to move the genre forward and advance their reputation once again.
That investment of time is what a big RPG needs, and it does make money -- a lot of money -- when it's done right and when you have the attention of an audience -- as Dragon Age did after Origins.
By the same token, Deus Ex had a rushed, sloppy sequel, and years later, the series has found investers and is coming back to (hopefully) do the job right. So it IS possible to salvage a beloved series from this kind of misstep.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:54
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Just to clarify I am an advocate that this game was a step back and awful.
I see people are saying they love the game and it is the best game yet, they are saying it's a good game? do you not see the problem?
Bioware doesn't make games that are just good they make great AAA titles, you say this is a good game for the franchise and all Im seeing is no it won't win goty, no it won't be nominated for goty and people laughing at the idea.
If you think this is a good game in the series where is your faith that this game can win goty?
I see people are saying they love the game and it is the best game yet, they are saying it's a good game? do you not see the problem?
Bioware doesn't make games that are just good they make great AAA titles, you say this is a good game for the franchise and all Im seeing is no it won't win goty, no it won't be nominated for goty and people laughing at the idea.
If you think this is a good game in the series where is your faith that this game can win goty?
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 10:54
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RX_Sean_XI wrote...
Bethesda games ALWAYS get game of the year (I don't mean published but developed)
TES3, TES4, Fo3, and Skyrim will be too
Yea, because they actually are awesome games to most CRPG fans.
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Well, maybe Skyrim and Human Revolution will also be cynical rush-jobs? After all, that's what happened with the previous Deus Ex sequel.
Skyrim has been in production for 5 years, that doesnt sound like a rush job to me.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:03
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This game is a great AAA title.CRISIS1717 wrote...
Just to clarify I am an advocate that this game was a step back and awful.
I see people are saying they love the game and it is the best game yet, they are saying it's a good game? do you not see the problem?
Bioware doesn't make games that are just good they make great AAA titles, you say this is a good game for the franchise and all Im seeing is no it won't win goty, no it won't be nominated for goty and people laughing at the idea.
If you think this is a good game in the series where is your faith that this game can win goty?
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:05
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WoooDoggie wrote...
sympathy4saren wrote...
Absolutely not. Game of the year will be one of the following:
Mass Effect 3
Portal 2
Crysis 2
L.A. Noire
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Battlefield 3
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Dragon Age 2 has zero chance
Shame on you for not mentioning Deus Ex Human Revolution. It's pretty much a shoe-in.
Im not sure I believe in Square Enix. I agree with you, though. For now, i am holding judgment and view Deus Ex: Human Revolution as a wildcard on the outside looking in.
I think Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning could be the real sleeper. Not too much is known about the actual gameplay. But based on early information, and early observations, it will at least be a game that comes out of nowhere.
A fantasy RPG with full lore and story written by R.A. Salvatore...a massive, Elder Scrolls challenging open world with over 120 different dungeons with loot and obtainable side missions (outside quest and other side quests), colorful, unique, art directed by Todd McFarlane...thick, organic rpg elements...leifmotif music...plus a dual combat choice that allows for full strategic play or direct open combat. This combat has been described by Game Informer in these terms "as I watch the demo a second time and witness a rogue cut through a group of kobolds in a way that looks stylish and satisfying, I can't help but feel a pang of disappointment at thinking about how real-time combat works in other RPGs." And that's only if you decide not to use full strategic combat!!!
Of course, im gonna root for Mass Effect 3. I hope beyond hope it is the best game ever made.
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#92
Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:05
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CRISIS1717 wrote...
If people are confident in this game being a better Dragon Age I was wondering if they thought this could contend for goty.
I think it's a better Dragon Age.
It might, but there are a ton of cRPGs coming out this year.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:11
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CRISIS1717 wrote...
Just to clarify I am an advocate that this game was a step back and awful.
I see people are saying they love the game and it is the best game yet, they are saying it's a good game? do you not see the problem?
Bioware doesn't make games that are just good they make great AAA titles, you say this is a good game for the franchise and all Im seeing is no it won't win goty, no it won't be nominated for goty and people laughing at the idea.
If you think this is a good game in the series where is your faith that this game can win goty?
Dragon Age: Origins was not really GOTY quality when it was released either. Especially not on consoles.. Yet it is still a fantastic game in its own right.
List of games I love that were/are not really "GOTY" quality: Mirror's Edge, Civilization V, Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, BlazBlue: Continuum Shift (or Calamity Trigger, for that matter), New Super Mario Bros., Goldeneye 007 (Wii), Half-Life Two Episodes One and Two, etc. etc.
Implying that in order to be a good/great game a game has to be GOTY is a silly argument at best, a purposefully trolling argument at worst. Especially in a year with such high quality competition as Skyrim, LA Noire, Uncharted 3, Batman: Arkham City, Portal 2, Pokemon Black/White (which will almost certainly be the highest selling of all these titles mind you), and Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:11
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If you think this is a good game in the series where is your faith that this game can win goty?
DA2 has better writing than Origins, a cool story hook, good visual design, and (yes, I do think so) much-improved combat -- and that's from the perspective of someone who simply can't and won't play action games. I play it as a tactical turn-based game, and I'm having a blast. The characters are deeper, more real, and less schticky than Bioware has ever written before.
And ... they pulled it out of their hind ends in less than a year, and that good visual design is copy-pasted to hell, and that cool story hook is unevenly shaped and paced, and feels as if planned branches have been lopped off or awkwardly fused together.
So, yeah, that's my point of view: DA2 is a great game that advances the series and shows what Bioware is capable of ... AND it's a sloppily-put-together embarrassment.
No contradiction, just a really uneven product.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:13
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Hahahahahah, what a laugh.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:13
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sympathy4saren wrote...
WoooDoggie wrote...
sympathy4saren wrote...
Absolutely not. Game of the year will be one of the following:
Mass Effect 3
Portal 2
Crysis 2
L.A. Noire
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Battlefield 3
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Dragon Age 2 has zero chance
Shame on you for not mentioning Deus Ex Human Revolution. It's pretty much a shoe-in.
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I think Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning could be the real sleeper. Not too much is known about the actual gameplay. But based on early information, and early observations, it will at least be a game that comes out of nowhere.
A fantasy RPG with full lore and story written by R.A. Salvatore...a massive, Elder Scrolls challenging open world with over 120 different dungeons with loot and obtainable side missions (outside quest and other side quests), colorful, unique, art directed by Todd McFarlane...
Those 2 names almost guarantee that Kingdoms of Amalur will be awful then. Sad, really.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:14
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Elton John is dead wrote...
DA2 GOTY? Probably. Unless Kingdom Under Fire II comes out for all platforms this year and contains single player. Then it'll take GOTY.
Skyrim? Yes, it'll take GOTY on some sites but come on, they've taken the classes out of that game. If you thought DA2 was not an RPG and think Skyrim is, you're mistaken. Combat will be terrible as well like with all of Bethesda's games.
The Witcher 2? LOL.
ME3? Again, you know it'll get GOTY on some sites.
It's all down to opinions in the end.
classes aren't needed for a RPG, even most of the good PnP RPGs don't use classes. Skyrim will do fine and at least will have a toolset so annoying stuff can be modded to some degree.
As for the topic:
No, I don't think DA2 will be GOTY. It has a nice story and companions, but not much else besides that.
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Posté 17 mars 2011 - 11:16
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and that cool story hook is unevenly shaped and paced, and feels as if planned branches have been lopped off or awkwardly fused together.
I should make it clear that my perspective on the overall story comes from watching my roommate -- who found Origins dull and never finished it -- play through the game with great enjoyment. He has immediately started another game to try and get a better ending.
Myself, I'm still in Chapter One.
