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[jbblue05]

I always role with Isabella on my 2-handed berserker reaver warrior
Twiin Fangs and Shore leave are awesome .
but most of the time she dies from a scythe or whirlwind


Eolved devour synergizes well with overpowering fog

Modifié par jbblue05, 26 mars 2011 - 07:47 .

[nicodeemus327]

I had problems with melee mobs knocking Isabela on her ass. They would hit her with a single attack even while I held agro. With little fort she would get sent flying across the battlefield. Was annoying. Defense didn't seem to do much either.

[XOGHunter246]

Could always get that ring to make her immune to knockdowns.

[ShadowPlay 14]

 Can't decide between 2H and Sword and Board, any help would be much appreciated 

[Ace Attorney]

Sword and Board if you got Disorient inducing rogues. Assault/Scatter are way too good if upgraded and hit a Disoriented target.

[AreleX]

ShadowPlay 14 wrote...

 Can't decide between 2H and Sword and Board, any help would be much appreciated 

2H if you want to look awesome and have better range, SnS if you want better defense, tanking ability, and more consistent staggers.

[XOGHunter246]

AreleX wrote...

ShadowPlay 14 wrote...

 Can't decide between 2H and Sword and Board, any help would be much appreciated 

2H if you want to look awesome and have better range, SnS if you want better defense, tanking ability, and more consistent staggers.

My Two Hander Staggers all the time and multiple enemies it very consistant.

[Ace Attorney]

On demand Staggers every 10 secs is hard to beat. Add to that Cleave upgraded and SnS is better at it.

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 26 mars 2011 - 10:04 .

[AreleX]

I get staggers like nobody's business, even without Cleave active, I'm just giving facts; SnS has 'Push button, receive stagger', and 2H doesn't. Whether this is worth choosing it for is up to you.

[ShadowPlay 14]

 Thanks for the quick replies  Think I'm gonna go S+S, because I think it just looks cooler, as well as the fact that lots of staggers sounds nice  (And if I'm honest, I need the defense. Badly. )

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Don't really expect much in the way of 'defense' with a shield. It'll boost armor up a fair chunk, but the shield toggle hits you with a -25% damage, which is not exactly helpful for a damager.

[XOGHunter246]

Well they both have their advantages and disadvantages two handers do more damage and have better range and my two hander can tank fine if you build a good two hander they can tank very well.
SnS does stagger more but they do less damage but of course their ability's make them able to tank better. Guess you already made your decision but both look cool as they both can wear nearly the same stuff just a two hander can't use a shield.

[godlike13]

Im running this class for my second play through. Its pretty fun .

[garlicburp]

if you get a chance can you post your isabella set up, i know your just messing around but i would be interested in seeing the tatics setup as i would like to lose varric for awhile, thanks

[AreleX]

I completed Blackpowder Courtesy, and am already finding refinements to make Isabela fit in better with my playstyle. She kind of got her ass beat really bad here (not as bad as Fenris, I took him out to do A Bitter Pill, and he spent the entire mission with full injuries, complaining about how awful he felt), but I think that was my fault; I either need to find something to give her for dealing with archers, or I just need to focus on dispatching them first. Highlight of this run has to be Isabela near one-shotting a Carta Assassin with Explosive Strike off my stagger, I about shat my pants right then and there.

Isabela death count: 5 (2 to archers, 1 to a backstab, 1 to her catching a Mighty Blow on the noggin because she looks like an enemy)

Next, I went to the Wounded Coast to save the apostate from the slavers. I clear the trash easily, drop the Assassin quick with some help from Blood Frenzy, take out the next one, and I can't find Isabela? Is she dead? Did she run away ALREADY? Nope, she's up on the balcony, duking it out with the Lieutenant solo like a boss. I come in, throw down a stagger for assistance, and Isabela gets an Explosive Strike as a reward. Easy!

Isabela death count: 5 (It's easiest to have her in open spaces. In enclosed areas,  I end up beating her goddamn senseless most of the time)

This is actually going well! I am fairly pleased with my layout for her; it helps me to fight alongside her, instead of around her, and it's only going to keep improving, the more I learn. I've still got a bunch of other ideas to try out, so it's a good thing I can mod my game, or else these Maker's Sigh potions would be driving me back to living with Gamlen. I could make some videos after I get home later, if anyone wants to see it in action.

Modifié par AreleX, 27 mars 2011 - 01:34 .

[AtlAggie]

AreleX wrote...


This is actually going well! I am fairly pleased with my layout for her; it helps me to fight alongside her, instead of around her, and it's only going to keep improving, the more I learn. I've still got a bunch of other ideas to try out, so it's a good thing I can mod my game, or else these Maker's Sigh potions would be driving me back to living with Gamlen. I could make some videos after I get home later, if anyone wants to see it in action.

Sounds like it's going well and you're having fun--awesome!    Looking forward to reading more details about your build experiments.  And I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to see video of it in action!  

[Shep309]

I'm glad Arelex is working on tactics for Isabela. I've always wanted her in my party.. cause she's my bestest girl... but I tend to get a little bit crazy when it comes to swinging my 2h around. Now I know why she's falling for my Hawke... he keeps knocking her over!

[XOGHunter246]

Isabela and any other melee companion are not ideal for a SnS and 2 handers they just gets in the way of aoe damage this is assuming your playing nightmare mode any other mode they can be used without being a nuisance...

I think if you reall want to use a melee types you should just place for example Avaline near your squishys to protect them and tell her to  use taunt when enemies attack Varrick or Anders and attack enemie attacking them.  

Also to the OP Varrick should use kicback when enemy is staggered too it does alot of damage on staggered foes. 

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 27 mars 2011 - 10:56 .

[Ace Attorney]

For Isabela on Nightmare, Upgrade Backstab to lower it's cooldown. More often than not, it will save her bacon by taking her out of your range.

[theangryllama]

So quick question. Recently been playing around with this and having a blast except for 1 thing, Sacrificial Frenzy.
It may be a bug or it may be something I'm doing wrong but i keep going to line it up with my other burst (cleave + barrage) and instantly go squish. Does the 20 damage it deals increase with +physical damage/beserk/cleave/barrage damage resist penalty/reaver talents or am i going nuts. I'm sure its me killing myself cause i literally drop by 60-70% of my health and don't take any injuries so its either that or something else is miraculously hitting me for a few hundred damage every time i push the button

EDIT: Ok so T0rin3 helped me out on this one. I have a ring with the '100% basic melee attack back' thing. Basically I'm going into such a furious rage that headbutting my axe seems like a really cool thing to do...

Modifié par theangryllama, 27 mars 2011 - 04:48 .

[AreleX]

The Isabela video is finished! What originally started out as a bad idea quickly became fun, interesting, and challenging. Here are a few of my runs with her in the party. Also in the video: the dirtiest Merrill mage nuke I have ever seen in my LIFE.

Berserker Vanguard - Isabela Edition!

Let me know what you think!

[Teknor]

Does Adrenaline help ?

[AreleX]

Ehh...I'm not too keen on it, personally. You'll need Second Wind to make it worthwhile (which I don't get til endgame), and in the time you'd take to spam it a bunch of times, then use second wind, then activate your talents, you could've already killed everything.

If you really want to see, I tested it out in my Elite Lockdown video (the Blackpowder Courtesy clips), along with Assail. I'm not too big on either.

Modifié par AreleX, 27 mars 2011 - 05:47 .

[ScroguBlitzen]

Nice vids. It never gets old seing mobs explode. Did you set up Isabella's Merciless Strike to use on Staggered Targets? and did you see any good results from it?

[AreleX]

ScroguBlitzen wrote...

Nice vids. It never gets old seing mobs explode. Did you set up Isabella's Merciless Strike to use on Staggered Targets? and did you see any good results from it?

Yes, I have her set to do it on staggered Elites.

Also, 'good results' is an understatement; she either one-shots or near one-shots every single Elite I stagger. The first clip 2ith the 2530 is from Merciless Strike off a stagger, and skip to 1:46 and watch her absolutely mollywhop Cor Blimey (the Dog Lords boss) off my stagger. Tactics from the situation:

Hawke engages Elite, lands stagger

Merrill

Enemy: Target rank is Elite or higher - Use current condition for next tactic
Enemy: Target of Hawke - Hex of Torment (Upgraded to Death Hex)

Isabela

Enemy: Target rank is Elite or higher - Use current condition for next tactic
Enemy: STAGGERED - Explosive Stike (Upgraded to Merciless Strike)

If I catch an Assassin pre-cloak, he's a ****ing goner.