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Berserker Vanguard - Mach-5 Massacre (Nightmare Guide) Guide updated for Patch 1.02/1.03 + Isabela build + Isabela Edition 2.0 video added (June 17th)


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#476
AreleX

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also, stay tuned for a new compilation video with my new companion/build layout

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Sinnthetic

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Ooo AreleX are you updating your guide? I'm excited :D

#478
AreleX

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yep, all in the new vid

did someone say dissent in 16 seconds

and 2h varnell in 28

i'm a legend

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The Ultimate Warrior

The strongest build you will ever play...at least, until I update the other threads.

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AreleX wrote...

The Ultimate Warrior

The strongest build you will ever play...at least, until I update the other threads.


Getting your mojo back I see. Very nice. ^_^

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AreleX wrote...

The Ultimate Warrior

The strongest build you will ever play...at least, until I update the other threads.


Is it the same build you have on the front page? :o

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it never left, my dear. you have no idea how much of a struggle it was to sit down with da2 so i could record this, though

game is just depressing to play

i'll update the thread with builds tomorrow or something

Modifié par AreleX, 12 juin 2011 - 06:19 .


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Sinnthetic wrote...

AreleX wrote...

The Ultimate Warrior

The strongest build you will ever play...at least, until I update the other threads.


Is it the same build you have on the front page? :o


no, companions and hawke are optimized for patch

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haha I will actually 'lol' if they nerf warriors in response. :lol:
Though given how fail their first attempt was I suppose you'll just get 10 second fights. 

I don't get how you manage to play with such a messy screen but I suppose whatever works. Good job!

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AreleX wrote...

it never left, my dear. you have no idea how much of a struggle it was to sit down with da2 so i could record this, though

game is just depressing to play

i'll update the thread with builds tomorrow or something


Thank you Arelex :D
Do you think you could show your gear too?
I'm pretty curious.

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my screen doesn't actually look like that, mr afk. the videos do because i'm forced to record from the s**tty sd 360 component cable.

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in some clips, i'm wearing the DLC armor with different models, and in clips vs Templars, i'm wearing +%spirit damage mage gear reskinned because i'd look like an **** running around with a sword in a nightgown.

I'm using the dlc weapons too, with the models for perrin's nail (edge of night) and vigilance (empress' point), respectively.

Modifié par AreleX, 12 juin 2011 - 06:29 .


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AreleX wrote...
I play on console, so I'm stuck with it :(
Join my DS3 group, click on my profile to find it!


I recall you play on console, but didn't know that meant you couldn't avoid the patch.

The Elder Scrolls coming in November - do you go there?

If you have an old PC you could dust off, Wizardry 8 remains my all time favorite - I've wasted more time there than any place else.

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So with the new stat changes to armor about Constitution being a lower requirement. How should we allocate our stats?

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guide has been updated, hope all you bastards enjoy (and can handle having friendly-fire), i now hate myself

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AreleX wrote...

guide has been updated, hope all you bastards enjoy (and can handle having friendly-fire), i now hate myself


*glomps* 

YAY! 

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Thanks for the update!

Now to decide between the ugly Edge of night or the bugged sunder... I wish I had cool model swapping abilities
v_v

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[quote]AreleX wrote...
Two-Hander will develop a bit faster than SnS, but SnS will ultimately be more powerful.[/qupte]

Why is that?

You also left out the follow up to Chain Lightning that allows it to do more damage to Staggered opponents was that intentional?

Also with constitution being much of a lower requirement for armor now how should we allocate Hawke's stats?

And last question: Is Edge of Night considred to be the best 1H Weapon?





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[quote]Sinnthetic wrote...

[quote]AreleX wrote...
Two-Hander will develop a bit faster than SnS, but SnS will ultimately be more powerful.

[/quote]

Why is that?

You also left out for Anders the follow up to Chain Lightning that allows it to do more damage to Staggered opponents was that intentional?

Also with constitution being much of a lower requirement for armor now how should we allocate Hawke's stats?

And last question: Is Edge of Night considred to be the best 1H Weapon?

Modifié par Sinnthetic, 14 juin 2011 - 03:32 .


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Yes, it was intentional, since you won't be spreading staggers as fast as you used to.

As for con, I don't know. Do what you're comfortable with. 225-250 should be more than enough.

TEoN is very very strong vs anything weak to spirit, but other weapons will be better in situations other than those.

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Nice work on the update AreleX. I have a couple of questions though.

Is "jump to tactic" working correctly now, or does it still jump to x-1? I'm asking this, because of Varric's tactics for Goad usage are set to jump to tactic 19, and "use Goad" is on tactic 19 (rather than 18, as it would have been required pre-patch).

How would you recommend attribute points distribution for Hawke? Since Berserker got a substantial boost, would it be wise to invest heavily into Willpower, maybe go like 1:1 Will-Str?

Since this is now a build/party setup that focuses on DISORIENT CCC's, it would be nice, if 2H build would include Insatiable, as it is the only talent for 2Handers that can exploit disoriented targets. And judging from Varric's build, there is going to be A LOT of disoriented targets. Maybe you could replace something like Unite, Deep Breath or basically anything not so vital to the build with Insatiable, so that you have at least one skill to exploit DISORIENT from time to time. Just a friendly suggestion.

Also, you forgot to include Devour in the S&S build. Without it, you can't invest anything in Reaver after Blood Frenzy.


Overall, this build sounds kinda fun, and it might just pick up my warrior playthrough again to try it out. AreleX, you are a hero for making a ****ty game fun, and also a curse for making me want to play it lol. And I have just started to have massive amounts of fun with Torchlight. *sigh*
 

Modifié par Relix28, 14 juin 2011 - 09:28 .


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AreleX wrote...

guide has been updated, hope all you bastards enjoy (and can handle having friendly-fire), i now hate myself


Hooray!  Thank you!  :o

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Relix28 wrote...

Nice work on the update AreleX. I have a couple of questions though.

Is "jump to tactic" working correctly now, or does it still jump to x-1? I'm asking this, because of Varric's tactics for Goad usage are set to jump to tactic 19, and "use Goad" is on tactic 19 (rather than 18, as it would have been required pre-patch).

How would you recommend attribute points distribution for Hawke? Since Berserker got a substantial boost, would it be wise to invest heavily into Willpower, maybe go like 1:1 Will-Str?

Since this is now a build/party setup that focuses on DISORIENT CCC's, it would be nice, if 2H build would include Insatiable, as it is the only talent for 2Handers that can exploit disoriented targets. And judging from Varric's build, there is going to be A LOT of disoriented targets. Maybe you could replace something like Unite, Deep Breath or basically anything not so vital to the build with Insatiable, so that you have at least one skill to exploit DISORIENT from time to time. Just a friendly suggestion.

Also, you forgot to include Devour in the S&S build. Without it, you can't invest anything in Reaver after Blood Frenzy.


Overall, this build sounds kinda fun, and it might just pick up my warrior playthrough again to try it out. AreleX, you are a hero for making a ****ty game fun, and also a curse for making me want to play it lol. And I have just started to have massive amounts of fun with Torchlight. *sigh*
 


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deal with later

jump should be working properly

the disorients are to set up walking bomb/blood frenzy combo, though they do give quite the favor to sns. believe me, i don't want 2h to be worse, but that's just how it is.

i have never used insatiable

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AreleX wrote...

guide has been updated, hope all you bastards enjoy (and can handle having friendly-fire), i now hate myself


Hooray!  Thank you!  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]



you're welcome, my dear 

have fun

Modifié par AreleX, 14 juin 2011 - 11:59 .


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Hey AreleX, love all your guides. Very intuitive gameplay. I had a quick question concerning attribute allocation post-patch 1.03. Would you personally still buff constitution to 31 now that champion armor only needs 18? I'd imagine it would still help survivability quite a bit but would it be more worth it to now throw those 13 or so "free" points into strength instead? Thanks in advance. I apologize if this has been addressed already--I didn't see it in your initial post and I didn't want to wade through 20 pages

Modifié par The Warden, 15 juin 2011 - 03:36 .


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Thats three of us now asking about Stat Allocations XD