Addai67 wrote...
Thomas Andresen wrote...
As far as recorded history shows, the Catholic church was the first instance to clamp down on nudity in art, often ransacking peoples homes, looking for "heretic elements". It's done in the name of civility, but I don't see anything civil in denying vital parts of human nature.
What? You're making that up. High medieval religious art is sometimes very sensual, for one thing.
The two needn't be mutually exclusive. The Church did genuinely clamp down on things that celebrated the sinfulness of the human body, and artists did find ways around it. That they managed to evade censorship has to do with I. the patron of the artist asking for such things II. the ability of the artist to skirt restrictions by drawing on mythological themes III. the ability of the artist to skirt restrictions via other means, such as insinuation.
Of course, I would still contest the original post on other bases: the Church didn't prescribe nudity on the basis of civility, but religious dogma. As this dogma became a part of basic societal expectations, it turned into civility: that, I would say, is the current societal position. Nudity is not considered accepted for polite society, regardless of religious outlook.
You might disagree with that position. You might argue that it is a "vital part of human nature." Be that as it may, no man is an island and we're stuck with the society we live in. Part of that includes making peace with it and getting along with it: or rather, picking one's fights.
Nudity in a video game is not going to accomplish societal change. Sorry. If you want to see more of it, society has to change first: once the expectations of the consumer base and the society that it's in change, THEN the content changes. This isn't a binary proposition of course: consider the use of vulgarity in media. Cinema and radio used to have decency codes, but there was a push-back from both the creative side of media and from the audience and society as a whole. These things occured in tandem.
Don't expect a video game to force societal change. The writers, artists, designers, and yes, the executives, work in the society we're in now, and not some idealized one. You want nudity? Make a mod. You don't want nudity? Don't get those mods.
People have different expectations. Let's respect that. It's not that difficult.
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