Is this the worst Bioware game you have played?
#226
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:29
#227
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:29
in order of preference not including DA2 as i want to complete it twice before deciding. Its very close though as i loved them all except NWN.
1)DAO
2)KOTOR
3)BG2
4)jade emmpire
5)mass effect
6)mass effect 2
7)BG
8)NWN
#228
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:30
randName wrote...
Carth, and the lack of companion influence was for me the worst parts of KOTOR, that and the last minute ability to switch from Dark to Light, light to dark, during the conversation with Bastila ~ WTF? Now Bastila, HK-47 and Mission Vao are still some of my favorite characters from any game, so I still like KOTOR. There are also some nice mods that allowed you to turn people, kind of ~ so it still ranks rather high on my list.
LOL
Don't get me wrong, I sitll have the game lol.. Fem Dark Revan and Bastilla Chan love ending was awesome and pretty much my staple playthrough..HK MADE the game damnit lol.. but Carth totally ruined the rest of it... his spectre of whiny voice acting looms over like a cloud of farts at a dinner table
#229
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:30
ozenglish wrote...
I would have to say KoToR was my wosrt one. I haven't played the BG series in so long, I forgot. Never got on the NWN wagon either..
What killed it for me, was Carth Anassi.... like really killed it. I would not have him in my party, and made the wookie kill him everytime! The only reason why Kaidan didn't kill it for me in Mass Effect was, that once I killed him on Virmire, I knew I would never hear his whiny voice again.
But DA2 being the worst game??? No, I think it is because people were hoping for an exact clone of DAO with a new story line.
you don't really have to talk to carth, you know...
though I don't know what you found so bad about him. he was well-written.
Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 18 mars 2011 - 03:31 .
#230
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:31
#231
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:33
#232
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:41
#233
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:55
#234
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 03:59
Close but no cigar. Sonic always wins.
Modifié par Marionetten, 18 mars 2011 - 04:02 .
#235
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:03
#236
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:17
#237
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:18
*runs back to make sure she didn't put KotOR above Origins*
Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 18 mars 2011 - 04:18 .
#238
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:19
ME2
DA:O
BGII
ME
KOTOR
BG
NWN <- crappy single player campaign, but the years of PW play made up
DA2 <- decent game just a good margin below the others.
#239
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:21
#240
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:22
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I think anyone who puts KotOR above Origins is trolling. But that's just me.
*runs back to make sure she didn't put KotOR above Origins*
I liked them both similarly. KotOR had a superior storyline, with an excellent plot twist worthy of a full-fledged Star Wars film. Dragon Age: Origins, however, was a richer, deeper gaming experience overall.
#241
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 04:53
ColdbringeR wrote...
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I think anyone who puts KotOR above Origins is trolling. But that's just me.
*runs back to make sure she didn't put KotOR above Origins*
I liked them both similarly. KotOR had a superior storyline, with an excellent plot twist worthy of a full-fledged Star Wars film. Dragon Age: Origins, however, was a richer, deeper gaming experience overall.
The problem is, though, that the twist is the best part of the game, and once you know it, it takes away alot of the drive to replay. I mean, I loved Juhani and Jolee and some of the other characters - but everytime I sit down and try to play it again, I get struck by fatigue before I even finish Taris. And I can't bring myself to ever go back to Manaan. KotOR2, on the other hand, I can replay again and again.
I think my earlier list was wrong. On reflection, I prefer Jade Empire to Knights.
#242
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 05:04
I ranked them as effectively equivalent, and for similar reasons.ColdbringeR wrote...
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I think anyone who puts KotOR above Origins is trolling. But that's just me.
*runs back to make sure she didn't put KotOR above Origins*
I liked them both similarly. KotOR had a superior storyline, with an excellent plot twist worthy of a full-fledged Star Wars film. Dragon Age: Origins, however, was a richer, deeper gaming experience overall.
As I play more of DA2, there are things I really like, and make me want to rank it higher (the basic design of Act I is great - I love that you're just set loose in the city without any real direction). And some of the things I've complained about aren't as bad as I'd feared (the paraphrase system in DA2 is vastly superior to anything found in ME or ME2). And I'm getting used to the speed of combat, so while I'm still not finding it at all tactical, combat isn't the chore it was in ME2.
But there are also things I uncover that make the game considerably worse. The level of polish in DA2 is shockingly low; this is easily the most unfinished BioWare game I've played. Characters will target the wrong enemies even though their targeting circle says otherwise. NPCs will talk about things that haven't happened yet. The game just isn't well assembled. And then there's the features about which I was wary, and they've turned out worse than I expected. The companion armour situation is dreadful. We knew in advance we couldn't change the appearance of the armour, but we're also extremely limited in our ability to customise its stats, and that's contrary to what the developers told us. And then there's the missing features. The moveable targeting camera just isn't there, despite being in demonstration builds.
I think I'm happy with my ranking. There's a chance I will ultimately move DA2 ahead of Jade Empire, but there's no way it will ever find it's way into my top 5.
#243
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 05:05
#244
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 05:13
In order of decreasing awesomeness:
1. Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn
2. Dragon Age Origins
3. Mass Effect
4. Baldur's Gate 1
5. Neverwinter Nights 1
6. Mass Effect 2
7. Dragon Age 2
8. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (that's actually not because of the quality of the game, but I abhor Star Wars)
I'm surprised more people didn't absolutely adore NWN, it was the first game ever than made me feel...EPIC!! It was awesome. BG2 blew me away in its own way, but that was also the first RPG I ever played and I had never seen anything like that before, so I was stunned and shocked by the awesomeness of it all and couldn't go to my lectures for 3 straight months, I almost had to re-do the entire semester because of it!!! Thank god that now the only thing that can happen to me is get fired when I disappeared for 4 days to play DA2. heh.
if we're talking all-time games by any studio then I would insert Neverwinter Nights 2 before Baldur's Gate 1 and Icewind Dale before Star Wars. Actually I would insert everything I've ever played before any star wars game but that's just me.
Modifié par aox_general, 18 mars 2011 - 05:14 .
#245
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 05:16
Mass Effect 2 was weakened a bit but still good...
Never played Baldur's Gate...
Neverwinter Nights I thought was good in the expansions.
Jade Empire was even fun if average...
Yeah DA-2 is the worst I've played from BioWare, reminds me of that horrible Witcher game kind of.
#246
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 05:21
How can you compare Me1 to Bg2? well maybe you guys can do it but I can't.
Anyway to be on topic: Dragon Age 2 would be somewhere in the middle of my list
Modifié par Rm80, 18 mars 2011 - 05:22 .
#247
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Posté 18 mars 2011 - 05:37
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Modifié par PurebredCorn, 18 mars 2011 - 06:02 .
#248
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:12
Rm80 wrote...
I was going to do a list but I can't rank them between each other
How can you compare Me1 to Bg2? well maybe you guys can do it but I can't.
well, not compare by content or story or graphics (obviously), but by how more or less awesome it felt to play one compared to the other. At least that's how I ranked them. As a total game experience and waht it meant to you at the time, for whatever reason. Now that you say you can't rank them I'm really curious to see your list, lol.
#249
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:38
1)DA2
2)BG2
3)BG
4)ME2
5)KOTOR
6)DAO + Awakening (i think it's very casual even on nightmare)
7)ME
8)NWN
#250
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:46
2Hard2C wrote...
KOTOR 2. But even that was not bad.
"Is this the worst Bioware game you have played?"
Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords was created by Obsidian, not BioWare.





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