I base the argument on 2 big hints in DA2:
What Nathaniel says in the deep roads, during his investigation ordered by the First Warden himself:
Nate: "After the Warden Commander spared the Architect, we thought the ensuing struggle among the darkspawn might make the deep roads safer. The Warden's allies assured us that these tunnels would be mostly clear".
Hawke: "They seem to know a great deal about the Darkspawn. Are these allies dwarves?
Nate: "No, not Dwarves. It's...complicated. Let's just say we live in strange times.
The Architect was the first of the speaking and thinking darkspawn. Very dangerous. He spread his "gift" to other darkspawn- the disciples. Fortunately their numbers are few."
But perhaps a bigger piece of evidence. A letter from Avernus. Keep in mind that the save I imported had Avernus spared and my Warden told him to experiment as much as he wants.
" Warden Commander of Ferelden
The last shipment was quite helpful for my research, Commander. If you could double the supply next time, it would prove most efficacious. Additionally, the information regarding the Architect has proven invaluable - we have made several breakthroughs recently. As the Architect surmised, considerable untapped power exists within Grey Warden blood. When properly prepared, its effects can be remarkable.
But my research has also revealing alarming implications, which I've attached to the old Acanthan cypher. I urge you to send to the First Warden at once.
I will conduct further tests as long as I am able. My documentation is very thorough - if time finally claims me, others may follow in my footsteps.
Avernus"
I've highlighted the important bits in the letter.
The dialogue with Nathaniel is not relly clear on the relationship between the Wardens and the Architect. On one hand, he describes him as vey dangrous and that it is fortunate that the disciples are few in numbers. On the otherhand, the relationship between the Wardens and their new allies seems to be complicated and strange, but apparently they know a lot about darkspawn. What would be more complicated than wardens and darkspawn collaborating, and who could know darkspawn more than the darkspawn themselves?
Also, keep in mind that Nathaniel is in fact in favor of sparing the Architect in Awakening.
But I think the letter from Avernus provides a stronger indication.
It seems to be hinting that the Architect and Avernus were in fact collaborating. He says "my research", then says "we made several breakthroughs". This "we" might refer to both him and the Architect. And it seems to hint that they have been in contact with each other.
Now it is possible that the Warden commander just told Avernus what the Archictect told him (he didn't say that much, if anythign at all, about untapped Warden power in Awakening however). But it seems to me that Avernus had more to work with than simply what the Warden commander said. Like he had concret research notes written by the Architect, as he says that the process has to be "properly prepared".
Now it could be that the Wardens raided the Architect's base in the Wending Wood mine and sent all the notes to Avernus. This would be more or less confirmed if that same letter shows up if the Architect is dead and Avernus alive (which if someone can confirm, would be greatly appreciated), though it does not entirely remove the possibility of them collaborating. Furthermore, the Architect's research in Awakening was not really to unleash Warden potential, though he did study Wardens. His primary concern was to get their resistance to the taint. Why would the Architect surmise something about untapped Warden power unless he is helping Wardens? It seems counter-intuitive for him to want to empower potential enemies, or even study it (and leave the notes without burning them), if they weren't allies.
As for what Nathaniel said that might indicate that they are not allies. One could be allied to a group, and still think they are dangerous and should not be too numerous, so I feel that what he said is not enough to conclude that there is no alliance between the two.
I personally find the idea of Avernus and the Architect collaborating to be very awesome, and the idea of Wardens and Disciples being potential allies to be very interesting. And it seems that the Wardens are working on something (could be Morrigan's warning though. But maybe the Architect can still be implicated). Their cameo in the Act 2 was before Nathaniel's expedition, which is not unimportant seeing how it was ordered by the First Warden. What were he looking for exactly and if it's true, why and how are they collaborating with the Disciples?
Which brings me to this:
Deep roads concept art. That figure at the end of the hall looks suspiciously similar to the Architect, in terms of figure (and also to statues we see in Origins).
That imo, is probably not a coincidence.
Were the Wardens looking for whatever that is? How is the Architect related if at all?
And why didn't it show up in DA2? Saving it for a DLC or expansion?
Flemeth: "Questions, questions."
Anyways, while it's not proved in the slightest, these two pieces of evidence seem to hint that the Architect and the Wardens are collaborating and if they are, they both seem interested in exploring these specific parts of the deep roads, for some reason. Reason that may be related to the concept art.
Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 mars 2011 - 09:57 .
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Such as Lilianna and Ander being dead.
