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[Pileyourbodies]

Again just because a character says something does not make it true. Just because Cassandra doesn't know where the warden is doesn't mean the Warden is gone.

[Alexander1136]

Well for some of us the warden went through the eluvian, but something universal regardless of epilouge will have to happen to him to bring him back or another warden commander. Hawke is the same situation regardless of decisions they'll have to have something universal happen to him. we also know flemeth is alive.I'm pretty sure the next game will take place in orlais tho I hate the accent, it suits them but it's annoying. Also sandal is there so that's where the action will be... Seriously.

[Quyk Sylvyr]

Does anyone know exactly how much time elapses between Act 3 and Varric's discussion with Cassandra? I always assumed it was at least 5-10 years - which would be more than enough time for the Warden to disappear after Act 3.

I would be very surprised if Bioware ever even placed the Warden or Hawke in another game - too many people would **** if the character looked nothing like the originals. Also, I don't know about you guys but I enjoy the challenge of building a character up from nothing to superpower.

[Pileyourbodies]

I'm positive its 3 years as 7 years pass in game play and bioware says the game is a decade long.

[TheBlackBaron]

Three years is my assumption. Bioware consistently made references to "ten years", but the civil war breaks out in year seven.

They're probably saving the intervening period for an xpack, or at the very least a DLC - gotta explain how the party splits and Hawke goes missing, right?

Pileyourbodies wrote...

I'm positive its 3 years as 7 years pass in game play and bioware says the game is a decade long.

Well played , sir.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 18 mars 2011 - 04:02 .

[CerI3erus]

im still curious about the wardens that jump in the end of act 2 where were they headed?

[Pileyourbodies]

Most likely to the Warden fortress in wessiput or something like that. Odds are they were involved with the architect or something in Anarathime.

[TheBlackBaron]

CerI3erus wrote...

im still curious about the wardens that jump in the end of act 2 where were they headed?

I think it's a preliminary to Nathaniel being in the Deep Roads in Act III. My money's on something related to the Primordial Thaig.

[CerI3erus]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

CerI3erus wrote...

im still curious about the wardens that jump in the end of act 2 where were they headed?

I think it's a preliminary to Nathaniel being in the Deep Roads in Act III. My money's on something related to the Primordial Thaig.

but i didnt see there corpses among the others specially the unhelmed one with the cowboy mustache he seemed important

[GehnTheGrey]

I too got very excited at the mention of the Warden at the end of DA 2. I also agree with peoples comments that Flemmeth probably has something to do with Hawke and The Warden not being around when the World seems to need them most. I don't think she would have done something so crude as to directly remove them from the picture though. She is a master manipulator. She could have put any number of ideas in their heads, or simply forced them into another bargain. Just as she does with both Heroes at the start of each game.

I think both Hawke and the Warden will feature prominently in future DA's. Thedas is knee deep in excrement right now. It will need its A-game Heroes to remedy that. This is my hope anyway. I love the DA franchise, and as long as David Gaider remains the lead writer I will buy the games no matter what. But I do find epic narratives frustrating when the protagonist keeps changing. The energy and time you put into getting to know your Hero and their lives really makes Bioware RPG's worth playing. It's a little disheartening having to start over every time. Continuity is important factor in an RPG franchise for me personally.

I would love to play as the Warden again in DA 3. In fact I'd be over the moon if that happened. But regardless of that - I'm very excited about the stage that has been set for the future of Thedas.

[Pileyourbodies]

And awesome. Best mustache in any bioware game.

[JamieCOTC]

I would not hold my breath for the Warden to return. As Leliana said at the end, "It is in the Maker's hand's now." The maker is BW and they have shone little interest in bringing back the Warden. I'm sure the mention was meant to be an homage to the first game, but it just didn't work out that way. The disappointment of DA2 just makes us want the Warden back that much more.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

What astounded me was the quest for Zevran and you pick up loot that would belong to a warden. The Journal entry I got for Alistair after his exchange with Meredith just said "Alistair is gone..."

OMG, they placed us on the edge of our seats once again.

I would love to play both of my characters in the next game. What a twist that would be.

[Kesica]

King Killoth wrote...

well considering my Warden had a baby with Morrigan than left with her into the mirror. she did say something about going into the future. and my main hawk is with merrill and I don't know what dlc will come out later but I hope it has something to do with her mirror.I hope in DA3 will have hawke looking for the warden to help him save the world. and I would love to have my warden back. I connected more with my warden than with hawke. It would be really cool to have voice over for each warden origin and gender.

If morrigan is in anyway connected to the plot in Da3,  I wouldnt buy it,

One character that I totally dislike,

[thenemesis77]

Boradam wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

Thats great, man if that is true......lmao. I know that Sandle knows of the god baby, he talked of him.  I don't think Sandle was talkng about the two heros he was around, Hawke and The Warden.

Nope, he was refering to the Maker.

That could be. I know I will flamed for this.......When all is lost and humankind is on the brink of being killed off..I think somthing like the Maker is on his way back but not to help and thats Where you have The Warden and Hawke, to me that is the bigger picture and why I think, IMO that both will be needed to fight whatever badass is on it's way. I'am like the OP, I won't hold my breath for them coming back but I do have hope and thats all we can have at this point.

[thenemesis77]

JamieCOTC wrote...

I would not hold my breath for the Warden to return. As Leliana said at the end, "It is in the Maker's hand's now." The maker is BW and they have shone little interest in bringing back the Warden. I'm sure the mention was meant to be an homage to the first game, but it just didn't work out that way. The disappointment of DA2 just makes us want the Warden back that much more.

Thats how I felt too and when I would be playing Hawke and doing certain quest, I was always thinking " I wonder what The Warden would do in this".  I just am not big on changing a PC that was a fine fit to begin with and they had no need in taking them out, like Flemeth, BAH!

[Evil Asch]

TomY90 wrote...

I think flemeth was behind it she is wanting the revolution to continue she does not want anyone to stop it like Hawke or the Grey Warden so she either captures them or kills them etc.

Me personally I think she kills the grey warden (for killing her in Dragon Age: Origins (if you killed her) and Hawke will be thrown into the fade or beyond the fade or something along those lines and you will probably play as Hawke escaping the fade etc. does not want to kill hawke due to him/her saving her life (thats saying I doubt she has a soul like that)

This is interesting. Initially it seems like Cassandra is super hostile toward Hawke et al. She stabs the book and threatens Varric but at one point Varric laughs at her and accuses her of hero worship. And yet, by the end, I got the impression that she was satisifed with Varric's story but that it wasn't entirely vital to her purpose. It wouldn't surprise me to find out the Seekers are a Chantry faction that isn't workingn directly for the Chantry but has their own purpose which requires the Warden, or Hawke or a different champion/legend/foretold person to complete and understanding Hawke's story is just one piece of their puzzle. After all Lelliana was there for the Warden's story.

[Fault Girl]

Dont the wardens at sone point when you bump into them mention they are doing something important and cant talk about it?

Could be something there?

It my best case scenrio, I would love to play my warden/hawke again but I highly doubt it as people said above.

Would be awesome though, but with the whole going through the mirror plot, there are a lot of females players or those who didnt, can they make that cannon if your warden was female?

I would have gone through the mirror if i could have, morrigan was my wardens best friend.

[Gabey5]

Something Big is happening i can tell ya that and they will be there

[Fredericol]

Leliana's story would be intresting to play. She's still the most intresting character in the game for me. Especially after meeting her again

That being said most of the story points to Orlais being the next DA center. Sandal is also heading there with his "Dad"

[arathor_87]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

I think it's more along the lines of Leliana tried looking for the Warden, Cassandra tried looking for Hawke, both of them failed on both counts. So now they're meeting up again, and are trying to figure out what in the hell they're supposed to do next.

I also get the feeling the Seekers may be operating as a third party in this war between the Chantry and Mages/Templars. So they're not necessarily looking for them to help defeat the Chantry defeat the Circles (Cassandra, at least, seems to initially think Hawke has been purposefully operating against the Chantry for the last ten years, so why would she be trying to get her help?) so much as to simply try and put an end to it all.

I really, really hope this is building towards the KotOR IIIt-that-never-was, with the Warden and Hawke teaming up to fight whatever the next antagonist takes the shape of (Flemeth will almost definitely be pulling strings but I doubt she'll be a straight-up villain).

As a serious answer, I agree with the first two paragraphs here.  The two missing is just a comparison, the Seekers are kind of acting as a Chantry last resort now.

Still not sure I buy the Warden coming back in DA3, however, in light of recent events and revelations, I withdraw my argument about how they said they'd never make the DR canon.

I was convinced that DA2 was going to be set in Orlais after finishing Awakening, since all the epilogues seemed to clear the way for severing the Warden's ties with Ferelden and having him mysteriously dissappear, so I'm a little hesitatnt to make the same assumptions lest I get burned again. However, once again the various signs seem to be pointing towards Orlais at least playing a prominent role in DA3, so if your Warden did the US ending then it makes a lot of sense for the Orlesian Warden from Awakening to be there and filling the role. 

And if your Warden didn't, there's really nothing stopping him from reappearing outside of peple's own preconceptions about what Bioware can and can't do. I happen think Bioware's got a pretty damned good team of writers, and if that's really the direction they want to go down then they can find a way to do it. 

This, people always bring up the ultimate sacrifice argument. I think there was a reasont why you could play as an orlesian warden in the Aweking, so its not impossible to bring back the Warden or the orlesian warden again. And I hope for this one. The Warden is a hero, and Hawke is the reason that the war between templars and mages started. Even if it's wasn't on puropse his greedy actions led to this. 

If they tie DA:O and DA2 togheter in DA3 it would be awesome.

[stuboy52]

when you think about flemeth saying dont be afraid to leap to hawke which i cant see him having done in DA2 then clearly this event she speaks of is still to come so it is reasonable to think hawkes part is not over yet i still think hawke is most likely to be the main protagonist in DA3.

[Freestorm Skinn]

Or in DA3 you play as... Morrigan's child, now grown up.

[SimToth1212]

Why is everyone so certain this leads to DA3? I'd bet anything there is an expansion to DA2 coming to resolve all of this....

[1Nosphorus1]

There are rumours of another blight mentioned in the epilogue in Awakenings, somewhere in the Anderfels and the Warden is called to Weisshaupt fortress, so I'm thinking the Anderfels will probably be the next place of interest.

(Just checked the wiki, this only happens if you import the orlesian warden in awakening)