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[Velz]

OK Bioware dudes, you need to take a look at Wars. They're missing a load of things they should have.

They have no "charge" ability. Wars should be able to dash at the enemy and stun them and gain stamina to use in the fight.

You gave whirlwind to rogues?!?! WTF

Why don't they have shouts that buff the party's attack power?

Get on it guys, oh and you should call the game World of Warcraft.

[Bruin Cousland]

I am also disappointed that there is no Death From Above ability that involves jump jets.

[Orlomm]

Velz wrote...

OK Bioware dudes, you need to take a look at Wars. They're missing a load of things they should have.

They have no "charge" ability. Wars should be able to dash at the enemy and stun them and gain stamina to use in the fight.

You gave whirlwind to rogues?!?! WTF

Why don't they have shouts that buff the party's attack power?

Get on it guys, oh and you should call the game World of Warcraft.

I know this is a joke but Warriors do in fact have Whirlwind.

[Selvec_Darkon]

Whirlwind for rogues makes sense. Rogues are not DnD rogues here. They can be combative or sneaky. Whirlwind would require a lot of finesse to pull off, not strength.



Though I do agree that warriors need some looks at. But not to the degree you have, I get the feeling your idea's are coming from preconceptions of how other games portray classes. This isn't DnD or another license, this is a custom made game.

[Magilicotti]

I think that every class, needs to be able to do the same amount of damage, with each tier ranked spell and/or ability, so that way there is "balance" and I can sleep better at night.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Magilicotti wrote...

I think that every class, needs to be able to do the same amount of damage, with each tier ranked spell and/or ability, so that way there is "balance" and I can sleep better at night.

OMG, 4th edition D&D!

[adembroski11]

As much as I love the game as a whole, the Wow-esque elements of the system really irritate me. I would much rather have stuck with D&D 3.5 than get this (4th Edition is certainly not much better than this, but it is better).



Once again, don't get me wrong, this is a better overall game than NWN or NWN2, but the character building was far more interesting and, more importantly, RPG-ish than MMO-ish. Give me back my CRPG, I don't want to play WoW.

[addiction21]

Magilicotti wrote...

I think that every class, needs to be able to do the same amount of damage, with each tier ranked spell and/or ability, so that way there is "balance" and I can sleep better at night.

nu-uhhhh

[Endocrine]

Why should a warrior do as much damage as a mage? Next are you going to ask that mages takes as much damage as warriors?

[Schyzm]

perfect example of douchebag strawman arguments that drag forum down.

[Velz]

wait wait... before this goes any further.... The joke I was making here is that people are complaining that "class x doesnt have such and such waaaah" and usually what theyre saying when you boil it down is that the class doesnt behave like it does in WoW so therefore it's broken.



People are so used to seeing archetypes behave in WoW that they think that is the end all be all, and any game not copying wow's archetypes is "broken" and needs examining.

[Schyzm]

Velz wrote...

wait wait... before this goes any further.... The joke I was making here is that people are complaining that "class x doesnt have such and such waaaah" and usually what theyre saying when you boil it down is that the class doesnt behave like it does in WoW so therefore it's broken.

People are so used to seeing archetypes behave in WoW that they think that is the end all be all, and any game not copying wow's archetypes is "broken" and needs examining.

trust me, everyone understands the idiocy of what you were attempting.  it's not a real argument, its a fallacy, you delivered it in a stupid and offensive way.  I really hope you don't think you were being clever.

[adembroski11]

Endocrine wrote...

Why should a warrior do as much damage as a mage? Next are you going to ask that mages takes as much damage as warriors?

At the very least, Warrior's should be far more effective taking on a single enemy in one on one, close range combat. The mage needs a serious nerf in the HP and Armor areas. They should be absolutely critical to protect and go down quickly if they're going to be the arsenal they are. Mages are artillary, and they should be as suspeptable to direct attack as artillary is on a battlefield.

Either that, or I want to see warriors attack quicker. As it is, it's more effective to armor up a mage and give him a sword than it is to have a well built warrior lead your party.

I honestly thought this post was serious, and I was disagreeing with it. I think the game went WAY too far toward WoW. Again, I'd rather return to D&D 3.5. This is way to simplistic and confining for my tastes. Too much metagame design went into the system (seriously, I have to have a skill to shield bash someone? Now, I can understand sucking at it if you're not good with a shield, but it takes a skill to even attempt it? Very video game, very lame).

Modifié par adembroski11, 17 novembre 2009 - 04:15 .

[Silent Protagonist]

i got the joke right away. the part where you said, and this game should be called wow was the big clue. props to you. lol at everyone who took it serious.

[Bruin Cousland]

My favorite part of the game is killing things by beating them to death with my shield. I downgraded my armor just to get more stamina to keep doing that.

If anything, warriors need more ways to hit things with their shield.

Modifié par Bruin Cousland, 17 novembre 2009 - 04:14 .

[Selvec_Darkon]

Warriors with 2h weapons should dish out much more damage more effectively. Possibly not as much as mages, but damn close. They do sacrafice defense for damage after all.

[Drogo45]

Schyzm wrote...


trust me, everyone understands the idiocy of what you were attempting.  it's not a real argument, its a fallacy, you delivered it in a stupid and offensive way.  I really hope you don't think you were being clever.

Either you got slammed in the face with the moron stick or you have aspergers.

[Velz]

Schyzm wrote...

Velz wrote...

wait wait... before this goes any further.... The joke I was making here is that people are complaining that "class x doesnt have such and such waaaah" and usually what theyre saying when you boil it down is that the class doesnt behave like it does in WoW so therefore it's broken.

People are so used to seeing archetypes behave in WoW that they think that is the end all be all, and any game not copying wow's archetypes is "broken" and needs examining.

trust me, everyone understands the idiocy of what you were attempting.  it's not a real argument, its a fallacy, you delivered it in a stupid and offensive way.  I really hope you don't think you were being clever.

LOLLLL offensive eh?

You need to cast some ironskin on yourself bub.

[Velz]

Drogo45 wrote...

Schyzm wrote...


trust me, everyone understands the idiocy of what you were attempting.  it's not a real argument, its a fallacy, you delivered it in a stupid and offensive way.  I really hope you don't think you were being clever.

Either you got slammed in the face with the moron stick or you have aspergers.

That actually made me lol. Aspergers.

Whats funny is the amount of people that do indeed have aspergers are probably higher than you'd think on forums since though while they can't function normally in public, they can type just fine usually.

[Schyzm]

Velz wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Velz wrote...

wait wait... before this goes any further.... The joke I was making here is that people are complaining that "class x doesnt have such and such waaaah" and usually what theyre saying when you boil it down is that the class doesnt behave like it does in WoW so therefore it's broken.

People are so used to seeing archetypes behave in WoW that they think that is the end all be all, and any game not copying wow's archetypes is "broken" and needs examining.

trust me, everyone understands the idiocy of what you were attempting.  it's not a real argument, its a fallacy, you delivered it in a stupid and offensive way.  I really hope you don't think you were being clever.

LOLLLL offensive eh?

You need to cast some ironskin on yourself bub.

yes lets all put on flame retardant suits and talk past each other with insults and hyperboles and strawman arguments.  anyone who doesn't want to live in the inferno is the real wuss. 

[WillieStyle]

You know, from reading these forums, you'd never guess that WoW is the most popular RPG in history. I wander what Blizzard got right with that game. It can't be the story.



Maybe it's the mechanics. Maybe it's the fact that melee classes are actually fun and powerful. Maybe it's the fact that the developers strive for class balance. Nah! Must just be a coincidence.

[Jtrdi]

adembroski11 wrote...
Mages are artillary, and they should be as suspeptable to direct attack as artillary is on a battlefield.

Says who? I am not sure how long you have been playing RPGs but there have been two "basic" types of spellcasters - I still call them sorcerers and mages. Sorcerers are artillery, yes. Mages don't have to be artillery. Just because it suits YOUR style of play does not mean, that the game must do the same.

This is all fantasy, but to say that fighter should have easy way with mage one on one is .... funny. Don't you know that mages are usually strongest characters in all fantasy settings? You think that's because they have powerful figher friends that protect them?

[stevej713]

Magilicotti wrote...

I think that every class, needs to be able to do the same amount of damage, with each tier ranked spell and/or ability, so that way there is "balance" and I can sleep better at night.

If Dragon Age gives you sleeping disorders, I suggest you stop playing immediately.

[colonel_burger]

Dude, where's the orbital strike? I want to be able to summon Satellite Rain with my dagger.



Oh, and i want Power Armour, a Laser Sword, and 10 starved wenches inside my suit pants.

[addiction21]

WillieStyle wrote...

You know, from reading these forums, you'd never guess that WoW is the most popular RPG in history. I wander what Blizzard got right with that game. It can't be the story.

Maybe it's the mechanics. Maybe it's the fact that melee classes are actually fun and powerful. Maybe it's the fact that the developers strive for class balance. Nah! Must just be a coincidence.

And you would think after 5 years they might of made some sort progress in that department