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[Sabresandiego]

What are the 5 most challenging fights in the game on nightmare? I am near the end of Act 3 now and so far here are the 5 I feel took the most effort to win

-Rock Wraith
-Xebenkeck
-Hubris 
-Nexus Golems Hidden Dungeon guardians
-A few fights with 3 or more assassins or mages + elites

[x-president]

I'm still in Act II, but I would have to add the Brekker fight.  I'm currently trying to win this one.  There are 4 assassins including Brekker that constantly backstab and evade like crazy.  They are just tearing me up.


Also I agree the Ancient Rock Wraith of course and the Nexus Golem fight are 2 tough ones.  I don't think I've did the other fights yet.

Modifié par x-president, 18 mars 2011 - 04:11 .

[AsaTJ]

I'd hesitate to put Hybris at the most difficult fights in the game. Stay out of the blue circle, kill the adds fast. That's all there really is to it. If you're having trouble, it's due to a lack of damage and not killing the adds fast enough. Once he's alone, he's a huge pushover.

[Joy Divison]

I see I missed some optional encounters on my playthrough since I don't recognize some of those names.

-The second awiergan scroll (the two named revenants and named skeleton) I never did beat.
-Soloing the arishock with a mage is either very very difficult or very very boring.
-The fight with the Templar in the sewers (Ser Varnell ?) with multiple waves of fanatics was probably the most exciting fight I ever had in a RPG.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 18 mars 2011 - 05:42 .

[bluedevil99]

I literally cannot imagine Xebenkeck on nightmare. I am fighting her on hard and lasting about 30 seconds regardless of tactics. I thought I was doing pretty well once when I got lucky with petrify, she brittled and I killed her outright with assassinate. I the proceeded to kill all but one of the rage demons. And then the second wave spawned and owned me in about ten seconds. What fun.

[AsaTJ]

Joy Divison wrote...
-The second awiergan scroll (the two named revenants and named skeleton) I never did beat.

Agreed.  On Nightmare the revenants will one-shot random party members with his hand blast thing, and it never targets your tank.  If it hit Merrill, she'd survive, but for Varric or Anders it was always a deathblow.  And there are two of them.

The only way I finally beat it was to use line of sight exploits to very carefully pull the group one at a time.  Even then, if Anders went down I had to restart.

And the reason you've never heard of Hybris is because he's the final boss of that quest chain.

Modifié par AsaTJ, 18 mars 2011 - 06:35 .

[hawat333]

The Arishok.
Beating him on an aoe mage was a definite pain in the arse.
Probably because I wasn't playing on Nightmare normally, just wanted to get a really hard duel - Oh, I got it.

Xebenkeck... Xebenkeck... hm, somehow I've missed that fight, I have to look it up.

[SlamminHams]

-Nexus Golems Hidden Dungeon guardians

Which fight is this...?

[Rhys1984]

Xebenkeck was a bit of a non entity fight for me, I didn't really notice she had a name for half the fight. I found Hybris really bloody tough though, his green flame aura was nasty enough.

[Deturis90]

Duel with Arishok playing as a mage on Nightmare difficulty.
And Rock boss (end of act 1) without tanking class.

[L33TDAWG]

AsaTJ wrote...

I'd hesitate to put Hybris at the most difficult fights in the game. Stay out of the blue circle, kill the adds fast. That's all there really is to it. If you're having trouble, it's due to a lack of damage and not killing the adds fast enough. Once he's alone, he's a huge pushover.

My problem with is: the AI not moving fast enough out of the blue circle, Playing on Nightmare makes the adds 1k times more of a pain in the ****, and they spawn and instantly go for the squishiest thing they see.

[L33TDAWG]

Deturis90 wrote...

Duel with Arishok playing as a mage on Nightmare difficulty.
And Rock boss (end of act 1) without tanking class.

I used petrify, then I hit him with firestorm, fireball, and stone fist. Took way too long though.

[L33TDAWG]

Nexus golem for me was pretty easy. I kept everyone back in the corridor leading into the room and then I took one tiny step in and pulled 2 shades at a time. After the shades: I got the revenant, then the desire demon was pulled, then I pulled the rage demon, and etc. Basically just pulled one at a time.

[L33TDAWG]

I was unable to fight Xe, but after reading about it, I am glad I didn't.

[AsaTJ]

L33TDAWG wrote...

AsaTJ wrote...

I'd hesitate to put Hybris at the most difficult fights in the game. Stay out of the blue circle, kill the adds fast. That's all there really is to it. If you're having trouble, it's due to a lack of damage and not killing the adds fast enough. Once he's alone, he's a huge pushover.

My problem with is: the AI not moving fast enough out of the blue circle, Playing on Nightmare makes the adds 1k times more of a pain in the ****, and they spawn and instantly go for the squishiest thing they see.

I cleared the fight on Nightmare, it's basically the same as Hard considering I rely on Chain Lightning CCC for most of my minion kills and it's not even an AoE.  (Seriously, if you're playing on Nightmare and not using Chain Lightning.... you're doing it wrong.)  It's a pain, but if you unpause and then issue the move order, they will get the point.  Sometimes I had to just spam right click, but I was only too slow once, and even then I got 3/4 out of the way.

At that point it's mainly an issue of killing the thing closest to your squishies first, and then fanning out from there.  The rage demons are a real pain, but since they don't have an uber backstab, you can usually save them until last unless they're really persistent on attacking your weakest member.

Modifié par AsaTJ, 18 mars 2011 - 02:23 .

[DA Trap Star]

SlamminHams wrote...

-Nexus Golems Hidden Dungeon guardians

Which fight is this...?

I  think he means the fight in the room in the Hidden Dungeon with the Nexus Golem Merchant and Evil Tome.
You get swarmed by like 30 enemies. Its insane, they keep coming.

[AsaTJ]

Ohh, man I forgot about that one! And he doesn't even sell very good items considering all the trouble you have to go through just to shop there...

[TG-Nalfen]

In order of difficulty (also might want to list your party setups as they can change what fights are hard and not)

Rogue Hawke, Merill, Anders, Fenris

1st: Rock Wraith (for that level its a bit over the top)
2nd: Xebenkeck (before i figured out that fighting in the room is suicide)
3rd: Second Awergan Scroll (they mowed down Fenris in 2-3 hits)
4th: High Dragon (with a range party he's cake but with 75% of my dmg being melee it took some creativity)
5th: Any fight with 2 Saarebas, they literally 1-2 shot the entire party.

[unspoken_demise]

Xebenkeck and the Revenants from the second scroll were probably the worst fights. Everything else was simply tedious.

I beat Xebenkeck on my first try, but it was far from glorious. I didn't realize how many enemies spawned, my team went down except for my main character (2h warrior berserker), so I charged out of the room towards the entrance. Only so many enemies followed me and I was able to (with the aid of my dog) take them down one or two at a time.

[BanditGR]

Have to agree with the folks about Xebenkeck. A thousand miles harder than pretty much anything else due to the absurd amount of mini-bosses that he summons. Fighting him inside the room on Nightmare is basically asking to get a fast wipe. I'd put the Rock Wraith second, not necessarily because of actual difficulty but due to the fact that you are relatively low level (12 maybe 13) and depending on your class and talent choices/companions, the fight can take a long time. I should also mention the Arishok duel somewhere in here, again not exactly hard but rather tedious and way more lengthy and facing the room with companions. Everything else can (in most cases) be pulled, LOSed, kitted and its all about sane build choices and a ton of micro (which is frustrating since, more often than not, you end up fighting the companion AI).

Modifié par BanditGR, 18 mars 2011 - 04:45 .

[RubiconI7]

TG-Nalfen wrote...

In order of difficulty (also might want to list your party setups as they can change what fights are hard and not)

Rogue Hawke, Merill, Anders, Fenris

1st: Rock Wraith (for that level its a bit over the top)
2nd: Xebenkeck (before i figured out that fighting in the room is suicide)
3rd: Second Awergan Scroll (they mowed down Fenris in 2-3 hits)
4th: High Dragon (with a range party he's cake but with 75% of my dmg being melee it took some creativity)
5th: Any fight with 2 Saarebas, they literally 1-2 shot the entire party.

#5

Agreed...What is that lighting spell they use? Do mages have that spell?
It's like the lighting version of force magic tree.

[Distilled]

On my first play-through missed Xebeneck and was using Rogue Hawke, Varric, Merril, and Aveline.

#1 The room where the golem merchant is, the waves for that were ridiculous and I couldn't manage to pull a small amount into the corridor.
#2 The Pride Demon, blood mage, and trillions of shades in the final mission destroyed me without a healer... and for some reason I brought Isabela along instead of Varric

Last three are a tie between Meredith, Rock Wraith and High Dragon, none of which were particularly difficulty, just tedious.

[Trapslick]

L33TDAWG wrote...

I was unable to fight Xe, but after reading about it, I am glad I didn't.

shes a huge pushover if you just get out of the main room

[Khayness]

Rock Wraith is difficult because it has a ridiculous hit effect.

I'm nowhere near and in a perfectly reasonable angle to avoid getting hit, but noooo. That fight is cheap, not hard.

Xebenkeck, The 2 Revenant dudes, Guard Pretender base, High Dragon, Nexus Golem Room

Edit: I'll mention the first Templar encounter during Anders' personal quest aswell, that one required a spectacular abuse of the enemy AI to get done, and you are fairly low level around that.

Modifié par Khayness, 18 mars 2011 - 06:41 .

[hawat333]

As an AoE Mage, I'd say the Arishok duel.

Five times.