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[Cloaking_Thane]

Ashr4m wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

PC it was, ps3 and 360 87-86...........the implications are there that 86 is mediocre...I'm not making things up for the fun of it......

What did you expect, first of all RPGs arent that popular on consoles, second of all the game was poorly ported to consoles your argument fails hard again ...

ANd no the implications arent that 86 is medicore you just made this up to support your cheap argumentation.

LMAO like you havent made up your little fantasy opinions about the scores to support yours?

[Cloaking_Thane]

Ashr4m wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

83 is bad? Who knew - I'm sure that everyone who ever received a B in school owes their parents an apology then. BioWare owes you nothing by the way.

As others said for Bioware standards it is. Not to mention if you look at other AAA-Titles that tend to hardly get scores below 80 83 is actually pretty bad. Also most reviewers start their scores at 70 so 83 actually is bad. (70 in most review-scales means the game is crap)

In my opinion

>91 great game
>85 good game
>80 medicore
<80 crap

This is just waht the industry made themselfes, since they forced reviewers to never give higher scores so review sites just started to use a smaller scale.

Just an FYI hero................no logic or proof here......evidence of said force?

Regardless i'd like to hear your own opinion of the full game....oh wait....

Modifié par Cloaking_Thane, 18 mars 2011 - 05:13 .

[Turnip Root]

Ashr4m wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

I think Bioware should apologize for allowing such morons onto the forum to spew their crap in the first place.

Reported. Yes its okay to speak like that with your classmates but not here ... <_<

Thanks for letting me know tough guy.

[The Xand]

Lol, who gives a flying **** about what metacritic has to say about games. Since it's an average score I imagine it's "only" 83 because of disgruntled fans who don't like change giving it a glut of 1 scores.

The review I most agreed with based on my own experiences of the games was the PCG UK review of it.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Ashr4m wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

I think Bioware should apologize for allowing such morons onto the forum to spew their crap in the first place.

Reported. Yes its okay to speak like that with your classmates but not here ... <_<

You clearly have trouble disassociating professional and private life

[Archdemon Cthulhu]

Ashr4m wrote...

A measely six point difference.

as for PC scores, DAO has a 91 and DA2 has an 83, so 8 points. That's not much.

Give me a break, so in a rating system where there are about 27 points that define if a game is great or crap 6-8 points are not that much okay ...

The invented system you've imagined out of thin air which holds 27 points you mean.

At best, I'd say the rating system in general is between 60-100, with particularly awful games getting dramatic 1's and 2's.  And even then, like you, I am just pulling numbers.  Your opinion is no more valid than mine, but if you'd like I can list many AAA titles with major publishers that received socre between 6 and 7.  

[Drogo45]

Just go away and don't play the game if it bothers you.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Ashr4m wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

You clearly have trouble disassociating professional and private life

No i simply have a problem with children on the internet thinking that using bad language actually makes their opinion more important.

I dont think there are many children on here, and I'm fairly confident most forumites are 20+ if not older.....
I'm in my mid 20's and hold a well respected professional job at a university and have a graduate degree so we probably do lead very different lifestyles.... that being said loosen up champ

Modifié par Cloaking_Thane, 18 mars 2011 - 05:22 .

[Turnip Root]

Even if you do hold the absolutely absurd idea that a score of 83 is somehow bad there was nobody who forced you to buy the game in the first place.
If you bought it anyways and felt let down and that Bioware owes you an apology then it shows you're just foolish with your investments since those metacritic scores you hold so sacred could've been viewed prior to purchasing the game.

[ZDProletariat]

This **** happens to every single sequel that comes out ever. There are the fanboys, the idiot enraged the-sky-is-falling-everything-is-so-horrible-why-is-my-life-over-this-game-ruined-my-life, and the vast majority of everybody else that falls in the middle.

I remember this happening to every single MMO that came out in the last 10 years, Starcraft 2, every single game.

Well, except Total War: Shogun 2. Everybody loves that game. because it's so awesome...where was I? oh right.

you all suck.

[AtreiyaN7]

Ashr4m wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

83 is bad? Who knew - I'm sure that everyone who ever received a B in school owes their parents an apology then. BioWare owes you nothing by the way.

As others said for Bioware standards it is. Not to mention if you look at other AAA-Titles that tend to hardly get scores below 80 83 is actually pretty bad. Also most reviewers start their scores at 70 so 83 actually is bad. (70 in most review-scales means the game is crap)

In my opinion

>91 great game
>85 good game
>80 medicore
<80 crap

This is just waht the industry made themselfes, since they forced reviewers to never give higher scores so review sites just started to use a smaller scale.

So, just out of curiosity, when I'm clearly being snarky and sarcastic, am I going to have to actually point it out by going *sarcasm* all the time? You have no apparent basis to your argument and pretty much acknowledge that this hypothetical rating system is something that's a matter of YOUR opinion.

I don't know...maybe if you keep trying hard enough, it's possible that you'll successfully bend reality to your will and actually make your dream scale come true. *sarcasm* In this reality that I inhabit, on any standard 0-100 scale, 83 is pretty good.

[Nilhob]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

83 is bad? Who knew - I'm sure that everyone who ever received a B in school owes their parents an apology then. BioWare owes you nothing by the way.

Agree.

And for those who've cleard out your alter at home filled with BioWare memorabilia . Pull back your curtains, wipe your tears, open the door and try life for a week. Stop the ranting and rage. Meet a human being in the flesh. And if you dislike BioWare so much, go spend your money on Activision.

Thought it was a great game, as 8 would indicate, not 9 like the first, but thats just us gamers that have been spoiled with great games last 15 years. 

[Cloaking_Thane]

Ashr4m wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I dont think there are many children on here, and I'm fairly confident most forumites are 20+ if not older.....

which would be really sad.

Only to a prude I suppose, read my edit as well if you want to know more
abt me.....loosen up, if youre going to be reporting moron and
doofus....then I dont know how you make it through one thread and dont
clutch your chest in horror

Modifié par Cloaking_Thane, 18 mars 2011 - 05:32 .

[Archdemon Cthulhu]

Ashr4m wrote...

Archdemon Cthulhu wrote...


The invented system you've imagined out of thin air which holds 27 points you mean.

At best, I'd say the rating system in general is between 60-100, with particularly awful games getting dramatic 1's and 2's.  And even then, like you, I am just pulling numbers.  Your opinion is no more valid than mine, but if you'd like I can list many AAA titles with major publishers that received socre between 6 and 7.  

Well most scores end at about 96, and start at about 70 but yes there are also reviews with less but if you look at metacritic for exmample at all reviews a magazine made and look at reviews in the past few years they are very likely to vote between 60/70 to 96 on average. Yes i made my numbers up and they arent 100% correct but i think by looking at lots of numbers on different review sites one cant deny that professional reviews dont start at 0 .

I would agree they dont start at zero, but there's a  between 70-96 and say 64-98 (which are the extremes ive found on triple a titles in the last five years on metacritic, just from looiking in the last ten minutes )  In fact, it accounts for your supposed eight points which you think are such a big deal.  

And you're also picking and choosing by wanting only to acknowledge the PC metacritic since they fit your argument slightly better (even though they still don't fit that well at all).  Basically, you're argument is entriely subjective and inredibly flawed, which is why I take issue with it.

[Cloaking_Thane]

the problem is no one has been egregiously over the top with you in any dealings i've seen, and you take things heart.....especially things you've offered up that have many many holes in them......combine that with you being the 700th person today thats been a basher of the game...and you see the end result.

Indeed the safe thing for you is to ear ****** it, forums are informal at the best of times....

further the person you reported wasnt even talking to you, and I'm suprised you havent taken issue with my sig yet either

Modifié par Cloaking_Thane, 18 mars 2011 - 05:41 .

[Kane-Corr]

You really can't judge the success of a game by metacritic or whatever else is out there. If you don't trust yourself enough to understand what makes a "good" game then good luck...I mean, in this day and age, the day something releases you can go onto Youtube and check out gameplay videos...and there are various other media outlets to retreat to in order to find out information. Review sites are illusions. All you people citing Metacritic...just look at your posts again, then go to Metacritic, then reflect upon the fact that the 1200 people that had an average user score are irrelevant to the other millions that make up the population in our economy. Also, you ever think other game studio companies voted poorly against Bioware...you'd be surprised.

Enough with the rating/metacritic garbage...if you don't have anything important to contribute to these boards...then why even bother...not only for our own sake...but for yours as well. We understand people don't like it...but either way, if this game fails or succeeds...shouting about the shortcomings is NOT going to change anything anymore...it's time to either stay or move on.

[Cloaking_Thane]

and no one i've seen including myself on your other post has done that, no one has slapped you with the duel glove or tipped over your wine....

Further you havent even played the game, and have only vaguely backed up most of your opinons with anecdotal evidence at best.....its had to discuss at that point about anything