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[keyofrassilon]

Ok there are just so many to choose from that I just dont know what too look for... See my problem is I'm trying to find something to fit my role of evil alignment but there are hardly any intelligent evil based modules out there save for a few... So I decided my best option is to go with something epic or large scale with support for all alignments... Something open ended that doesnt force you to take on a certain role or be a certain character in the module... Starting at 1st level up to 40th level or just whatever supports all alignments really... And I just dont mean it allows all alignemts but actually gives you the choice to side with the enemy... Actually role play the alignments and your actions dictate your alignment... What would the community recommend based on that criteria?

Thanks in advance!

Modifié par keyofrassilon, 18 mars 2011 - 01:13 .

[jmlzemaggo]

That's an interesting question. I wish there could be much more evil modules as well. But strongly written with an evil point of view. Otherwise... it means nothing but killing civilians for no reasons, noting much more. I don't care much for playing a blackguard, but there is that "Blackguard" I,II,III saga by 999Darklord999. But I love playing the assassin class. I had a great time through "A Dance with Rogues" (a very adulte saga!) but I had to 'rewrite' the module in my head. I also remember an evil 'rogue type' story but not its name so far. 

I suggest you change your title with someting about evil modules.

Modifié par jmlzemaggo, 18 mars 2011 - 08:06 .

[jmlzemaggo]

I just ran into that evil 2010 module, very bad rating but from only one guy, so it doesn't mean much, beside being mean maybe...:
But it seems a very strange module, a weird very heavy file to download... and I found nothing inside... Zero K! So cautious here.

Mystic Completed

Modifié par jmlzemaggo, 18 mars 2011 - 09:18 .

[olivier leroux]

I don't think there are any epic modules that take you from 1st to 40th level AND let you decide to choose completely opposite ways through the story. That would be a hell of a module to pull off for any author, not even professional teams like BioWare itself managed to do that ...

Anyway, Revenant by McV is a module I could recommend and which allows you to roleplay an evil alignment with evil options beyond just killing everyone in sight.

Also, the Bastard of Kosigan series by Fabien Cerutti allows you to take different sides to reach your goals and betray your allies (but I'm not sure you could speak of pure good and evil sides there, it's more about power politics and personal interests in a grayscale rather than black and white world).

[Xenovant]

jmlzemaggo wrote...

I just ran into that evil 2010 module, very bad rating but from only one guy, so it doesn't mean much, beside being mean maybe...:
But it seems a very strange module, a weird very heavy file to download... and I found nothing inside... Zero K! So cautious here.

Mystic Completed

 If you like weird modules, you should try Boodietopia if you haven't. Sometimes is hylarious.

  I like this type of modules too but of course they aren't my favourites, I like them... for a change xD

[keyofrassilon]

Yeah thats what I'm looking for is a change... I'm tired of being a goodie two shoes saving the world hero... I wanted to play the role of a sinister dictator or the lord of destruction of some town or provence... side with the lich lord etc... join the drow in the underdark... Right now I'm playing Eye of the Beholder and I wanted to go join the drow and return to wipe the map of Waterdeep haha... Prolly wont let me Im sure...

The Blackguard ones were interesting... I have those already but didnt start them yet... Mostly because I was looking for open ended storylines...

I don't think there are any epic modules that take you from 1st to 40th level AND let you decide to choose completely opposite ways through the story...

Maybe if I toned it down a bit and only required the options of evil alignemnts be present in a module and change the outcome... I have found a few like this but they started at epic levels...

It does appear that I have limited options in this scope... Maybe if I said allowed support of alignments of all types and left it at that... Although having the content for evil characters would help... I will look into the others offered... Or maybe try and write one tailered for evil alignments if I have time... I tend to prefer playing them though...

Modifié par keyofrassilon, 18 mars 2011 - 01:11 .

[jmlzemaggo]

 Simply forget about that Mystic Completed module... 
(Read my comments on its Vault page if you want.)

[keyofrassilon]

Yeah I wont bother either... I dont use PRC atm for one... And the hassle seems not worth it for two lol

[werelynx]

Someone mentioned drows? A Hunt Through the Dark

Modifié par werelynx, 18 mars 2011 - 02:40 .

[Luspr]

 I think you can play an evil plotline in Bubba McThudd's really very good Agrenost

Modifié par Luspr, 18 mars 2011 - 06:54 .

[Bubba McThudd]

Thanks for the plug Luspr,

The Cult storyline (Evil Cleric or Monk) in Agrenost is specifically designed for evil alignments. The player begins as a low-level minion in an evil cult that is plotting to take over the city.
One can also play an evil character in all the other storylines (except Church), although they are not designed as evil per se.

[keyofrassilon]

Thanks so much for the suggestions! I will try them all... I decided to go with A Hunt Through the Dark series first... as Drow have always been my favorite... As for being a drow there also seems to be lacking modules in this dept as well... Everyone wants to be the good guy and save the world... Or play Lord of the Rings part 99... So I thought of doing my own... One being a zombie based module based on the movie Zombie Flesh Eaters but set in a fantasy realm... The island will be named Matul and you will be given several roles to choose from.. The investigator (hero) for good and neutral alignments or the villan (necromancer) for evil alignments... This will have 2 stories in one because of this and therefore 2 outcomes... Maybe more... Another idea of course would be involving the drow as there is not many of these... But then I dont know if and when I will get time to do something like this as whatever free time I get I tend to play the game!

[werelynx]

Actually there is a necromancer module on the vault, even two(that I know of)!
Necromancer, Part 1 - Allegiance (1.65) - never played this one, but it is on my to-play list, although there is only part 1

Bone Kenning I: Art of the Thanaturge - first part of series that were never completed. The same author made the module Soldier's Grave, which has the same atmospere and concepts of the world. Soldier's Grave is situated on the island and involves undead.
It would be neat, if you(or any1 else) merged them both. Soldier's would be the first part of a Necromancer(thanaturg) Tale. The PC seeing the situation on the island would struggle to become neutral/ evil thanaturg and then after island is gone he/she would settle near his birthplace(here comes the story of bone kenning). Surely the later would need the CR of the critters to be higher. Then being involved in big thanaturgs politics, fighting with The Church(or signing a treaty?), ruling the village, conquering new lands. The possibilities are endless.
Unfortunately there are no drow in there. Only evil water elves.

Modifié par werelynx, 20 mars 2011 - 09:02 .

[olivier leroux]

I second the recommendations for Agrenost and Bone Kenning. And I remembered a few more recommendable modules that could be of interest to you, depending on your definition of evil:

Orcs 1 - The Awakening and Orcs 2 - Return to Al-Dha by Akkei (fight an orc clan's wars against humans and rival orc tribes), also
The Breach by Akkei (be the undead commander of an evil army; I haven't played this one yet but it sounds like something you might enjoy)
Arandie by Harri Polsa (maybe not 100% evil but far from being good; you take on the role of a rebellious and sometimes cold-hearted assassin - a pregenerated character)
A Day in the Life of Evil by Hellix (short-story module about an evil pregenerated wizard)
A Thief in the Night by btowle (a short puzzle module in which you serve an evil lich's cult)
The Pillaging of Waycrest by Matthew Fisher (short BioWare Contest module in which you're an Orcish raider, haven't played it myself yet but it's got a few high votes)
Road to Ruin by Eldar Featel (another short-story module, not necessarily about evil but about a faction that preaches Entropy)
Vampire: Heaven Defied by Chojin (ambiguos setting, should allow evil choices, too)
Almraiven and Shadewood by Fester Pot (if you're looking for a truly evil plot it might not suit your needs but it's not a "goody two-shoes saving the world" plot either; the PC is meant to be considered evil because of his/her dabbling in some kind of necromantic art, also one of the most acclaimed module series around)

These two modules have been recommended to me and they look like modules for evil alignments but I haven't played them yet, so I can't say how evil exactly the PCs are meant to be:

Assassin: A Winter's Tale by Levistus
Drow Tales: The Librarian's Tale by Capn Gherkin

As for "A Hunt Through the Dark", it's a great series and offers good possibilities to play an evil character, just be aware that the latter installments of the series are a bit of a letdown in that regard, discontinueing the evil drow raid plot (but they're still good modules).

Modifié par olivier leroux, 20 mars 2011 - 11:34 .

[jmlzemaggo]

The Gods Themselves
& even better, the latest updated file, included in that "3 evil modules" pack, for finishing HotU PCs, but not necessarily I suppose:
The Gods Themselves Trilogy
Never played those myself, but it smells good, sorry, evil enough.

[Luspr]

Judging by the interest in here I might have to revisit my module for clerics of Shar at some point... (once I've put Torslunda to bed!).

[galelabriel]

Luspr wrote...

Judging by the interest in here I might have to revisit my module for clerics of Shar at some point... (once I've put Torslunda to bed!).

That would be awesome!

[keyofrassilon]

After playing A Hunt Through the Dark series... I want more modules where you can actually be a drow instead of hunting them.. But I cant seem to find many... Overall there really should be more of these types of modules as they are uncommon & I think I will make my own campaign based upon the Underdark.. The zombie thing is getting old actually... So the Drow it is... In the meantime, please will others make more underdark modules!? I seen there is an online drow PW community but then again I have dialup at home... Not good for this kind of thing!

[jmlzemaggo]

Asking for evil?

Court of Night, by Kenneth J. La Mella
Woooow!!! Amazing.
But very evil. You've been warned.
As beautiful as evil.
Better than drows, v....... 

Modifié par jmlzemaggo, 26 mars 2011 - 11:30 .

[Dragon Studios]

Hmmm. I'm probably late here but we're developing a module that is the sequel to The Lowland General (A mainly hack and slash module where the only RPG elements are the leveling up parts) and unlike the first, you are presented with many choices and side quests which effect the world. You can also freely roam some of the world and unlike the first, you truly see how ruthless The Lowland General is. For example, at one point, you come across some deserters and you are given two choices - kill them and have their families killed too to teach a lesson to those that think of deserting the army, or you can have them tortured. There's no mercy here. You're either ruthless or very ruthless. Another example is where a thief (who is a poor man just trying to make a living) tries to steal from you - you can break his legs (where he remains in that spot without anyone coming to help him - it's a cruel world) or you can simply kill him.

It's more of an RPG than the first BTW. I'd even say it's a dark fantasy RPG.

Modifié par Dragon Studios, 21 avril 2011 - 09:16 .

[Wensleydale]

I second the recommendations for 'A Day In The Life Of Evil' and 'The Gods Themselves'.

ADITLOE is both deliciously wicked and rather amusing, even if you are forced to play a pre-generated elderly wizard. Also, it doesn't drag on forever and a day, which I find a refreshing change of pace after all those needlessly epic modules people have a habit of churning out. (Like unnecessarily lengthy novels, unnecessarily lengthy modules are boring. If the story doesn't warrant it, don't drag it out for the sake of it. You're not doing yourself or your player-base any favours.)

TGT trilogy, on the other hand, is both long (relatively speaking) and complicated, but relentlessly entertaining nevertheless. Those of you with a delicate constitution need not apply, as evil is as evil does, and you're quite decidedly evil while playing TGT. But then, that's what you're after, right?

Have fun, and don't let the forces of truth and virtue get you down.

[Mirgalen]

"Assassin: Hand of the Zshi" is for evil characters. I played Vampire PnP in the old days and all of us were creatures of the night. The module mentioned above you are part of the order of Abel and I did not see an evil path. Could somebody confirm that there is one?

[Vibrant Penumbra]

...and a bump to this very pertinent thread 

olivier leroux wrote...
Also, the Bastard of Kosigan series by Fabien Cerutti allows you to take different sides to reach your goals and betray your allies (but I'm not sure you could speak of pure good and evil sides there, it's more about power politics and personal interests in a grayscale rather than black and white world).

Only fools speak of pure evil (or good) anyway  It's all about the shades of grey and the border between light and shadow.

But I take this as a +1 for Bastard 

[Vibrant Penumbra]

jmlzemaggo wrote...

Asking for evil?

Court of Night, by Kenneth J. La Mella
Woooow!!! Amazing.
But very evil. You've been warned.
As beautiful as evil.
Better than drows, v....... 

Yes, I'm asking for evil 
And beautiful is a definite bonus!
Thank you again, J

[olivier leroux]

Vibrant Penumbra wrote...

jmlzemaggo wrote...

Asking for evil?

Court of Night, by Kenneth J. La Mella
Woooow!!! Amazing.
But very evil. You've been warned.
As beautiful as evil.
Better than drows, v....... 

Yes, I'm asking for evil 
And beautiful is a definite bonus!
Thank you again, J

Just a heads up: "Court of Night" is actually a "bastard child" of Vampire: Heaven Defied; it's based on the same areas, scripts, cutscenes and general plot, but was adapted to a different setting, all dialogues were re-written, all characters renamed and the module was graphically overhauled, that is updated with some of the best custom content around. None of this with the authorization of the original author though, and the result is somewhat unpolished, IMO, because it's full of leftovers from the original version that don't really fit into the new one. jml could confirm that; at the time when he recommended Court of Night, he wasn't aware of it yet.

So, if you want a more polished and original game, I recommend "Vampire: Heaven Defied" instead. Unless you prefer the graphical overhaul, don't mind the bugs and are such an evil aligned player that you don't care about the ethics of using other people's work without their consent. In that case, suit yourself and play "Court of Night".