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[Augustei]

Right now Ferelden is not really a noteworthy nation when it comes to Millitary might, in fact if Im correct they are the 4th least noteworthy in Thedas. The othersbeing Rivain and The Free Marches, and to a lesser degree Antiva who nobody wants to invade because of the Antivan Crows.

But with Alistair as its Monarch wanting to free the mages, probably willing to attempt to provide them freedom.. Causing alot of them to flock to Ferelden.
With the Templar power in the east now falling to the control of a Ferelden (Cullen), And the Champion of Kirkwall being a Ferelden.
With The weakening of the chantry Orlais will probably loose the spot of central power.
With Ferelden having Orzammar in its borders and with the help of its new mages possibly take over the Lyrium trade as a possibility.
And Maybe Alistair making Alliances with Nevarra in knocking out their common enemy Orlais, since they both have suffered from being invaded and living under Orlesian rule. Nevarra however will feel the wrath of the Imperium and Qunari before they reach Ferelden. So their power might weaken a bit.

So could it be possible that Ferelden will become the most powerful nation in Thedas in a future installment of dragon age, with the way things are looking at the moment.

I mean they could have the mages, since Alistair is a mage sympathizer, The Templars not willing to attack since their commander is a Ferelden =D and the lyrium trade. And possibly an alliance with The other great power Nevarra.
Alot of this would probably require Alistair to be king, exept for the templars and maybe lyrium trade. But just say with Alistair as king

Could Ferelden likely become The Most powerful, or second most powerful (Next to Nevarra) Nation in Thedas?

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 18 mars 2011 - 06:46 .

[Raiil]

I see Ferelden playing a huge part in the third story. I don't know if they will become the premeire power in Thedas, but they will be a force to be reckoned with.

[Augustei]

If its possible to help them become the major power in Thedas though, I will go great lengths to help them achive it.. I havn't seen the rest of Thedas yet, but im already 100% certain I want ferelden running the show..

Not at all bias from my Brittish (Scottish) background or anything <.< >.> lol

But I really did grow to love the place in origins, love their politics,  Their monarch is freaking awesome (Alistair) Their history with the Orlesians. Their barbarian history. Man everything about Ferelden is awesome. I want them to take after the country they are based off and form the greatest empire The world would have ever seen =D

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 18 mars 2011 - 06:55 .

[Foolsfolly]

Can I conquer the Free Marches first?

Because when I heard the Free Marches were just a bunch of City States I wanted to go all Alexander the Great on Thedas and unite them under one rule; my own.

But sure, why not make Ferelden the British Empire.

[Clonedzero]

im pretty sure fereldan was never really super relevent in the grand scheme of things.

that was the whole point in DA:O, that hte blight happened in a minor backwater country like fereldan

[Raiil]

Clonedzero wrote...

im pretty sure fereldan was never really super relevent in the grand scheme of things.

that was the whole point in DA:O, that hte blight happened in a minor backwater country like fereldan

Was being the relevant term. Ferelden can now have one of the most powerful people in Thedas running around. In my case, the Hero of Ferelden, a mage, is also banging the King, who isn't exactly a piece of fluff himself. Ferelden is shaping up to be a force to be reckoned with.

[Evil Asch]

Rememer The Warden is Ferelden, Hawke is also Ferelden and Alistair (in my game at least) is not only King but a friend to mages and with a mage/chantry war raging across Thedas it's very possible that Ferelden could declare itself neutral or mage friendly and accrue a massive power base.

[Augustei]

ashthehorrorfan wrote...

Rememer The Warden is Ferelden, Hawke is also Ferelden and Alistair (in my game at least) is not only King but a friend to mages and with a mage/chantry war raging across Thedas it's very possible that Ferelden could declare itself neutral or mage friendly and accrue a massive power base.

Not to mention that even the Templar Commander of the east is a ferelden (Cullen)

[Raiil]

XxDeonxX wrote...

ashthehorrorfan wrote...

Rememer The Warden is Ferelden, Hawke is also Ferelden and Alistair (in my game at least) is not only King but a friend to mages and with a mage/chantry war raging across Thedas it's very possible that Ferelden could declare itself neutral or mage friendly and accrue a massive power base.

Not to mention that even the Templar Commander of the east is a ferelden (Cullen)

Is it stated that Cullen stays on as the Knight-Commander of Kirkwall?


Actually, I want to know if there's a Knight-Commander variant of the Divine. If a Fereldan lands that job, it should be interesting.

[Augustei]

Nah its not actually stated, but I mean he was second in Command and with Meredith dead it would make sense for him to take over her position.

Yeah it would be extremely awesome if the Templars actually had someone who was the head of the order outside the seekers and the divine.

"Supreme Knight-Commander =Name="
That'd be awesome

He whose identity is only revealed to the Knight Commanders, the one who is charged to head any and all Exalted Marches as High General

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 18 mars 2011 - 08:25 .

[Evil Asch]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Nah its not actually stated, but I mean he was second in Command and with Meredith dead it would make sense for him to take over her position.

Yeah it would be extremely awesome if the Templars actually had someone who was the head of the order outside the seekers and the divine.

"Supreme Knight-Commander =Name="
That'd be awesome

He whose identity is only revealed to the Knight Commanders, the one who is charged to head any and all Exalted Marches as High General

Or she mind you

[True Zarken]

XxDeonxX wrote...
"Supreme Knight-Commander =Name="

I suddenly see a new Supreme Commander game

[stuboy52]

no doubt it would be interesting the way i see it ferelden is clearly Medieval England, orlais is Cosmopolitan France and antiva is Spain hence their Armada mentioned by Isabela and free marches seem to be like merchant italian states and alistair may be like Henry V and conquer orlais as he says in DA2.

[TobiTobsen]

We don't know how much power a Knight Commander like Cullen has left, after the biggest part of the templars split of from the chantry and go berzerk on the mages at the end of DA2. Thats how I understood Varrics words. All Mages rebell and the Templars go after them without support of the chantry.

So maybe Cullen is now just the commander of a rogue unit of templars that don't have any political influence anymore.

[Augustei]

TobiTobsen wrote...

We don't know how much power a Knight Commander like Cullen has left, after the biggest part of the templars split of from the chantry and go berzerk on the mages at the end of DA2. Thats how I understood Varrics words. All Mages rebell and the Templars go after them without support of the chantry.

So maybe Cullen is now just the commander of a rogue unit of templars that don't have any political influence anymore.

True, but I mean if Alistair moves to take over the lyrium trade, he would find it alot easier to negotiate the Templars on side and not have them attack when Cullen might not want to attack his own country.. Cause they will want their lyrium one way or another.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 18 mars 2011 - 11:03 .

[Herr Uhl]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Could Ferelden likely become The Most powerful, or second most powerful (Next to Nevarra) Nation in Thedas?

So we're going to disregard Tevinter and the Qunari?

At least your theory doesn't involve taking all of Thedas on flimsy promises about fighting the darkspawn once there are "no other threats".

[Augustei]

The mages were the ones who stopped the last Qunari invasion, if all the mages flock to ferelden.. Then no way would the Qunari stand a chance against Ferelden

Tevinter maybe, but their millitary might isn't as noteworthy as Nevarras who is quickly becoming the most powerful nation in thedas atm. About to suceed Orlais so Nevarra can deal with Tevinter, Ferelden with the Qunari

Seriously though, with a hold on the lyrium trade, a Ferelden leading the remenants of the eastern templars, a Ferelden as champion of Kirkwall, and all the mages fleeing the circles coming to Ferelden. They just keep getting stronger and stronger.

Plus the divines right hand and head of the seekers considers herself a ferelden, the divine lived in Ferelden for a while we dont know how long, and could consider herself a ferelden as well.

And if the hero of ferelden returns, then he could also get the house of crows to lend Ferelden support through Zevran.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 18 mars 2011 - 11:42 .

[Herr Uhl]

XxDeonxX wrote...

The mages were the ones who stopped the last Qunari invasion, if all the mages flock to ferelden.. Then no way would the Qunari stand a chance against Ferelden

The mages, *and* a huge amount of soldiers. People seem to forget that, the mages were the Chantry-lands edge as they were better than the ones of the Qunari. It has also been hinted that the Qunari drew back because their converts were getting killed in the cross-fire.

But yeah, having mages totally makes Tevinter wipe the floor with them.

Tevinter maybe, but their millitary might isn't as noteworthy as Nevarras who is quickly becoming the most powerful nation in thedas atm. About to suceed Orlais so Nevarra can deal with Tevinter, Ferelden with the Qunari

Since when is Nevarra quickly becoming the strongest nation in Thedas? Tevinter single-handedly managed to fend off four exhalted marches and waging a war with the qunari (granted, the Qunari are going on half speed).

Seriously though, with a hold on the lyrium trade, a Ferelden leading the remenants of the eastern templars, a Ferelden as champion of Kirkwall, and all the mages fleeing the circles coming to Ferelden. They just keep getting stronger and stronger.

*sigh* They also have the infrastructure of a landslide following the blight, it'll take a long time for them to climb back to their pre-blight status, which was weakest nation in Thedas.

And why would the templars condone having all mages being free there?

Plus the divines right hand and head of the seekers considers herself a ferelden, the divine lived in Ferelden for a while we dont know how long, and could consider herself a ferelden as well.

Leliana and the Divine would see to the needs of the Chantry first. Would they support the country that abolishes the Circles?

And if the hero of ferelden returns, then he could also get the house of crows to lend Ferelden support through Zevran.

This is if the hero returns, was a friend of Zevran and didn't do the US. That is many things that need to happen. This is however the most likely of all your theories.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

No, Fereldan had its time in the spotlight and I'd rather it not be seen again not when there are other countrys to see.

Besides Fereldan was a weak back water country before the Blight not that it went through a Blight its even weaker than it was before so the idea that it would become a real power in Thedas seems silly to me.

[NKKKK]

Long live the Silver Knights!

[Vilegrim]

stuboy52 wrote...

no doubt it would be interesting the way i see it ferelden is clearly Medieval England, orlais is Cosmopolitan France and antiva is Spain hence their Armada mentioned by Isabela and free marches seem to be like merchant italian states and alistair may be like Henry V and conquer orlais as he says in DA2.

Fereldan doesn't have Englands advantages: namly a sea between the heart of the nation and any hostile power worth the name, a militarised middle class with a war winning weapon (the longbow and the Yeomanry would could act as awesome archers or medium infantry depending on need), a strong economy unbroken by wars on it's own soil (The Plantagenate empire was in France) intergrated tactics (dismounted Knights screening the Yeomanry, far better equipped than the 'man at arms' they faced) Ok English cavalry wasn't to french or HRE Standards, but it didn't HAVE to be, as it was intergrated into the 'form line and shoot them full of arrows' battle plan as a decisive blow AFTER the archers had done there thing. 

Fereldan has a hostile neighbour on a land border and is ravaged by the blight..and appears to follow the same military model as everyone else.

[Dean_the_Young]

Herr Uhl wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Could Ferelden likely become The Most powerful, or second most powerful (Next to Nevarra) Nation in Thedas?

So we're going to disregard Tevinter and the Qunari?

At least your theory doesn't involve taking all of Thedas on flimsy promises about fighting the darkspawn once there are "no other threats".

Sadly enough, I remember that exact argument. It was... unique.



To answer the question of the OP, no. Ferelden having a lot of mages and apostates running around doesn't mean that Ferelden is going to be the biggest man standing when the rest of Thedas fights itself to death, allowing Ferelden to step into the power void.

Ferelden having a lot of mages and apostates running around means that when the world throws itself into the fire, Ferelden guaranteed itself an even greater share of it.

Now, mind you, the MaleKingWarden/Anora setup makes no mention of the Mage policy. It may well be an Alistair-specific thing. But Ferelden isn't going to escape the flames of revolution unscathed, nor is there the underpinning reasons for why it could become the most powerful nation of Thedas... even ignorring the Qunari homeland.

[KenKenpachi]

Unlikely given how much damage was taken during the blight, I'm sure they have a manpower shortage, in 5 more years or so (being 15 after DA:O) they may be albe to be something of a power. But not a big bad ass I'm sure.

[Wereparrot]

If Alistair is king, then I don't see it: he doesn't have anything like the conviction and military leadership needed to turn Ferelden around. To become a decent military outfit, Ferelden needs both religious and military reform; without these two things, say goodbye to any theory of a Fereldan-style Angevin Empire. With Anora as queen it still wouldn't be possible. It might be possible with a player-character, because they are not bound to Thedas tradition and is your own character.

[Darkcyde]

Yes! Here is how:(this work better if you made the right choices in DAO) the blight may have weakened ferelden but it also set it up for a faster recovery than other nation. ferelden with a hardened alistair, anora or the warden as queen, bhelen in orzammar and lanaya as dalish keeper have something no other nation has; no warring internal factions and many seasoned soldier's if an exalted march is called against them and orzammar they have the ability to pool their warfigthing knowledge on an unprecedented scale they also have great scientist on their side the worlds foremost botanist to help them recover the blighted lands. Dagna the dwarf who's research with lyrium and magic could give ferelden's mage's and crafter's a huge advantage. population wise the nation suffered a mass exodus of blight refugee's true but some them will return having received rough treatment abroad along with a possible huge influx of mages and some elves seeking better treatment.politically ferelden can cast itself as the beacon of freedom in thedas and cast themselves as defender's of the true andraste they have within their borders the birthplace and final resting place of the maker's chosen making them the default holy land. All that and with orzammar as an ally they can bring the world to it's knees by crippling the thedas lyrium supply.

geographically they are much like ancient greece with only one mountain path as the only viable land route to bring large forces against them the other being by sea and that's where some pivotal alliances must be made. but yes ferelden can could thrive and become a force to be reckoned with remember they have had almost a decade headstart on the current chaos