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[Lithuasil]

Depends on my personal background. If it's as heavily involved as Hawkes, being daughter, sister, lover and friend to different apostates, mages without second thought, even if that whole rebellion thing WILL go awfully wrong for us.

[sevenplusone]

I will say that if DA3 turns out to be a "No chantry, no religion" thing, I'm going to be sick to my stomach.

[TexasToast712]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Thrask's faction had the right idea--mages and Templars working together to build a better Circle. If Grace hadn't gone insane, and if they hadn't resorted to abducting Hawke's brother/sister, I'd have fully supported them.

Since the Templars apparently rebelled right along with the Circles after DA2 was all said and done, this sort of mentality may yet be around to support, so I'm throwing my lot in with them. For the mages who wish to reform the very Circle that keeps them in check, and for the Templars who side with them!

That was what I wanted. I prefer peaceful reform to violent revolution.

I sided with the templars though because the Kirkwall Circle was cleary harboring bloodmages and was well beyond saving. I spared my sister and the mages that surrended and would have gladly spared more innocent mages given the opportunity. Sometimes a thousand must die so a million can live. That was the mentality I had siding with the Templars.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 18 mars 2011 - 09:21 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

sevenplusone wrote...

I will say that if DA3 turns out to be a "No chantry, no religion" thing, I'm going to be sick to my stomach.

Doubtful. The idea of the Maker is mostly portrayed in a positive light, with mindless fanatics being cast in the role of the villain and characters like Grand Cleric Elthina almost idolized. If anything, it could wind up being a "this is how religion SHOULD be" thing, instead.

[Nathan Redgrave]

TexasToast712 wrote...

I sided with the templars though because the Kirkwall Circle was cleary harboring bloodmages and was well beyond saving. I spared my sister and the mages that surrended and would have gladly spared more innocent mages given the opportunity. Sometimes a thousand must die so a million can live. That was the mentality I had siding with the Templars.

It didn't seem like the Circle was harboring blood mages. In fact, it's repeatedly battering-rammed into the player's head that the high concentration of blood magic in the area is a direct result of the local Templars' overbearing authority. Orsino, during the Templar-side endgame, even taunts Meredith by saying, "And the irony is, I've never even used blood magic until this very moment!"

[TexasToast712]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

sevenplusone wrote...

I will say that if DA3 turns out to be a "No chantry, no religion" thing, I'm going to be sick to my stomach.

Doubtful. The idea of the Maker is mostly portrayed in a positive light, with mindless fanatics being cast in the role of the villain and characters like Grand Cleric Elthina almost idolized. If anything, it could wind up being a "this is how religion SHOULD be" thing, instead.

Doesnt Andraste's ashes and the magical healing properties they have pretty much confirm that the Maker is real?

[TexasToast712]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

I sided with the templars though because the Kirkwall Circle was cleary harboring bloodmages and was well beyond saving. I spared my sister and the mages that surrended and would have gladly spared more innocent mages given the opportunity. Sometimes a thousand must die so a million can live. That was the mentality I had siding with the Templars.

It didn't seem like the Circle was harboring blood mages. In fact, it's repeatedly battering-rammed into the player's head that the high concentration of blood magic in the area is a direct result of the local Templars' overbearing authority. Orsino, during the Templar-side endgame, even taunts Meredith by saying, "And the irony is, I've never even used blood magic until this very moment!"

Yea but he knew about Quentin's blood magic research and didnt inform the Templars aka harboring/protecting blood mages. I also feel it was best to annul the Kirkwall Circle as every mage there was so weak willed as to resort to blood magic/possession. First Enchanter Irving and several other mages resisted direct blood magic corruption attempts in Ferelden so why couldnt the Kirkwall sissies?

Modifié par TexasToast712, 18 mars 2011 - 09:30 .

[Glorfindel709]

My Warden would have definitely sided with the mages - Mage, Maleficar, hater of the Chantry. It would totally be down. Until all of the other mages started summoning demons, turning into abominations, or just in general going insane. Than he would simply turn into a raven and fly away. Because that's how bamf he is.

Hawke sided with the mages simply because he was a mage, it would ****** off Carver, and he didn't want to be killed by the Templars after helping them win.

That being said, I as the player in DA2 really wanted my "Screw you guys, I'm going home." option. I would have simply worn my Hugh Hefner PJs and relaxed by the window as I watched the city burn and offered sanctuary to everyone who needed it in my mansion.

[Nathan Redgrave]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Doesnt Andraste's ashes and the magical healing properties they have pretty much confirm that the Maker is real?

It implies so, but it's never strictly confirmed. It could just be a lyrium-induced freak accident, for all we know. The only immutable facts are that there are mages, the Fade, and some pretty freaked-out things going down in at least six hundred different locations at any one time in Thedas. The Maker mythology is the most likely truth behind it all, but it's left deliberately ambiguous to allow the player to draw their own conclusions.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Hawke sided with the mages simply because he was a mage, it would ****** off Carver,

Would it? In my game, Carver showed up and practically bashed me over the head for supporting the Templars. Does he react differently if he joins the Templars instead of the Wardens?

[Glorfindel709]

Carver sided with the Templars because he was tired of being in Hawkes shadow. He berated me at the first cutscene before and just after the Chantry blows up, but then he abruptly changes sides because he can't fight his brother on Merediths order for the final fight.

[noriyoku51]

Mages equal death blood mage killed my mom because of Merrill I had to kill a whole dalish clan Anderson killed two innocents and femruel was a dreamstalker next playthrough all mages die even bethany gets killed I hopefully Meredith gives me her sword lol

[MaglorArcanist]

Mages, becouse the mage are gone all out cause oppression.
Meredith had exhagerate and mage are gone out control.

If they are oppressed becouse the can be blood mage, i go to blood magic anyway, isn't the solution but the power it give can free me.
Blood magic isn't the devil, it's powerful, very powerful, and like all power it request sacrifice.
Meredith has taken the mage and take theyr back to the wall, if you don't have chance, if you don't have hope, if you don't have any way to fleee, you can only fight to survive, and if this wath appened (even if the story telling is bad).

Desperate situations demand desperate solutions.

[Gabey5]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

I sided with the templars though because the Kirkwall Circle was cleary harboring bloodmages and was well beyond saving. I spared my sister and the mages that surrended and would have gladly spared more innocent mages given the opportunity. Sometimes a thousand must die so a million can live. That was the mentality I had siding with the Templars.

It didn't seem like the Circle was harboring blood mages. In fact, it's repeatedly battering-rammed into the player's head that the high concentration of blood magic in the area is a direct result of the local Templars' overbearing authority. Orsino, during the Templar-side endgame, even taunts Meredith by saying, "And the irony is, I've never even used blood magic until this very moment!"

Yea but he knew about Quentin's blood magic research and didnt inform the Templars aka harboring/protecting blood mages. I also feel it was best to annul the Kirkwall Circle as every mage there was so weak willed as to resort to blood magic/possession. First Enchanter Irving and several other mages resisted direct blood magic corruption attempts in Ferelden so why couldnt the Kirkwall sissies?

Well they did it for power, clearly it gives you more and if you have to die taking a horde of templars it is better to be at your strongest. Most of them would do whatever it takes to remain free, the sissies were the ferelden circle who were sheep kept in the pen.