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[Vicious]

Bioware should die because they made DA2 instead of DAO2. I want Leliana Morrigan Alistair Sten Wynne Zevran and my Warden all back for more adventures.

Let's fight another blight too

[Persephone]

Vicious wrote...

Bioware should die because they made DA2 instead of DAO2. I want Leliana Morrigan Alistair Sten Wynne Zevran and my Warden all back for more adventures.

Let's fight another blight too

With two archdemons, four Loghains and Flemeth cackling in the background!

[TheMadCat]

AlanC9 wrote...

Did anyone actually like the original qunari design? The one where they just looked like big humans?

Me, I loved it. I loved the idea that it was nothing but their religion that gave them a sense of superiority and drive, that their tenacity to honor and spread their religion was what generated the fear and confusion of the people of Thedas. I loved the idea that it was generations of selective breeding that made then the physical specimens that they were. It hearkened to the Western worlds experiences with Bushido and Islam and the many, many conflicts and wars of religion and cultural differences. Races with very little to differentiate each other aside from the religion and culture which drove them to ignorance of one another and bloodshed.

Now they're generic steroid induced monsters with horns who follow their own views and act friendly and human when it's convenient for the plot, it's the generic fantasy xenophobia conflicts. Fun.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 21 mars 2011 - 06:07 .

[Vicious]

Persephone wrote...

Vicious wrote...

Bioware should die because they made DA2 instead of DAO2. I want Leliana Morrigan Alistair Sten Wynne Zevran and my Warden all back for more adventures.

Let's fight another blight too

With two archdemons, four Loghains and Flemeth cackling in the background!

It's like you read my mind.

[Cassidon]

Obro wrote...

To bad OP because DragonAge 2 brought more money with less money put into it.Why would they consider that a failure?

I personally don't have any good expectations from DA3 if I consider in the way things are going now.

Is BW/EA closing down tomorrow?!

If not then surely standard business practice would be to ensure the product is quality such that the consumer is left happy and returns in the future - this is why companies have customer service departments. If these criteria are not met then although the product may intially look a success due to high sales figures based on the company's reputation and previous products, it may do significant damage to the company's image and thus, future sales. This is why it could be deemed a failure.

On a related issue why are people assering a direct proportionality between sales and success of DA2. The sales of this game are largely down to the excellent game that DAO was - I know thats why I bought it. The sales success of this game is a much bigger indicator of the success of DAO than DA2. The sales of a potential DA3 or the next BW game will be a much bigger indicator of DA2's success.

I for one will be much more wary next time.

Modifié par Cassidon, 21 mars 2011 - 06:52 .

[Lordsage77]

People bringing up the metacritic user reviews really have no base. Look at how many 0's and 1's there are. Is that because the game is a 0? No. If anyone honestly thinks this game deserves a rating of 0 should not be posting their reviews, because they likely have some sort of mental defect.

I'm not saying the game is perfect by any means (though I personally liked it more than Origins), but it sure as hell isn't a 0. People were just butthurt that it was different than Origins, and lashed out by giving absolutely ridiculous scores that had no merit.

"OMG I can't equip mah party with stupid looking hats!?! THIS IS THE WORST GAME I'VE EVAR PLAYED!!!1"

[djackson75]

What has happened with the Metacritic user reviews is the same thing that happens with Amazon reviews of books, games, or pretty much anything when the author, producer, etc... either says something stupid, or takes it in a direction the hardcore's don't like. It gets flooded with no star reviews, dropping the overall score. It's stupid. I put zero stock in the user scores on Metacritic, good or bad. The 10's you'll see are fans who are trying to counter the zero scores(or Bioware Employees, BAZINGA!).

[Obro]

Lordsage77 wrote...

People bringing up the metacritic user reviews really have no base. Look at how many 0's and 1's there are. Is that because the game is a 0? No. If anyone honestly thinks this game deserves a rating of 0 should not be posting their reviews, because they likely have some sort of mental defect.

I agree.I also believe that people thinking that this game deserves more than 5 or 6 are mentally challenged

[Heinrich843]

No, statistics do not lie.. you are right in that.

Neither do facts lie, but the context of those statistics do.

I'm not disagreeing with your post OP.. I'm just saying unless a clear majority of people showed up and explicitly stated this game was the worst travesty to man (100-1 or something equally as ludicrous) the game devs probably wouldn't care.

There's too much mud flinging to determine if the sample group who voted at Metacritic are the minority or majority. Even the professional reviews rely on the games industry to make a living so it is truly difficult to gauge a game anymore. (PC Gamer even has a store where you can buy games.)

[dzizass]

Wivvix wrote...

Bring back mature, developed, adult personalities.

I LOL'd about this one. DA:O had the most juvenile and badly written characters I've seen in a long time. Even DA2 is better when it comes to NPCs. Also DA2 story, although not very good, was considerably better than "join an ancient order of powerful warriors, save the world" recyclable BioWare plot.

Otherwise, I agree.

[Paraxial]

Metascore user reviews are ridiculous, there are people rating DA2 as low as "1". You can not like the game, that's fine, but to rate the game that low is ridiculous. They are rating the game lower than games like Too Human, Fable 3, and Knights Contract. Have you ****ing played Knights Contract? That game is terrible. You may not like the story or the characters of the game but the gameplay is not broken, the graphics are not bad, the voice acting is not comical, the game is not deserving of a "1 out of 10".

Metascore user reviews are comical at best. Bunch of angry morons circlejerking, like /r/gaming on release.

Modifié par Bible Doctor, 21 mars 2011 - 08:47 .

[djackson75]

dzizass wrote...

Wivvix wrote...

Bring back mature, developed, adult personalities.

I LOL'd about this one. DA:O had the most juvenile and badly written characters I've seen in a long time. Even DA2 is better when it comes to NPCs. Also DA2 story, although not very good, was considerably better than "join an ancient order of powerful warriors, save the world" recyclable BioWare plot.

Otherwise, I agree.

A Grey Warden is a Spectre with a sword or a staff instead of a gun.

[Tako]

I agree that 0 and 1 is ridiculous and unfounded... but for someone who has been playing Bioware games for close to a decade, I can honestly say that this game was a bit of a let down. It is good... but could have been so much better. It is not a 'Bioware' standard game.

[macrocarl]

I'm sorry, why does anyone think Metacritic is reliable? I mean, hey you can like or hate or think the game is somewhere in between but shouldn't people take a look at some reviews and make their own decision? I think DA2 is pretty awesome.

[Alex Kershaw]

Athro wrote...

Wivvix wrote...

I concur with that assessment, of 7-8/10.

Dishonesty? These are statistics taken directly from Metacritic. Presenting the statistics and then drawing the inference that the statistics indicate the game hasn't been as well received as Dragon Age Origins, is not dishonest.

I never claimed these statistics were representative of the entire public sample. They are averages, and a representative sample of respondents. Moreover I have played the game, and I have no intention of falsifying statistics to prove a point. The statistics exist to make that point in any case, as any perceptive individual would have already gleaned from the metacritic score of 83.

It has already been well established that the metacritic scores are not representative. Even Metacritic had to do a massive clean up of the scores because of the number of falsely set up multiple accounts - and the ones that remain do so because they don't have enough proof to show that they are false accounts.

A majority of the low scores on metacritic have been by people who don't even own the game, nor played it. I've seen on another forum a guy boasting that he scored it zero on metacritic to punish Bioware. So the user scores can be ignored.

83% puts Dragon Age at about the same score as most AAA titles get on metacritic - so i doubt Bioware is exactly sweating over the score.

If you wanted to do proper statistics - you would take a sampling of several sites and get a median score based on all of them - in which case, it is likely metacritic's score would likely drop off as it is an outlier - most sites user scores are sitting in the expected 7 - 8 band.

C.

I bet Bioware ARE disappointed with the score. It's their lowest scoring game ever besides that little sonic handheld game.

[moilami]

macrocarl wrote...

I'm sorry, why does anyone think Metacritic is reliable? I mean, hey you can like or hate or think the game is somewhere in between but shouldn't people take a look at some reviews and make their own decision? I think DA2 is pretty awesome.

I rated DA2 1/10 next to unplayable. Haven't though been bothered to make a review on metacritic.

[Alex Kershaw]

macrocarl wrote...

I'm sorry, why does anyone think Metacritic is reliable? I mean, hey you can like or hate or think the game is somewhere in between but shouldn't people take a look at some reviews and make their own decision? I think DA2 is pretty awesome.

Because it averages like 100+ critics?

[Elerrina_7]

Seriously gtfo with these pathetic threads. Sure DA2 had a few issues such as the repeated map use and the lack of interaction with npc and companions but why does everyone act like its the end of the world. The game was still good and people need to stop throwing their toys out of the pram just because it wasnt exactly what they wanted.

[Persephone]

moilami wrote...

macrocarl wrote...

I'm sorry, why does anyone think Metacritic is reliable? I mean, hey you can like or hate or think the game is somewhere in between but shouldn't people take a look at some reviews and make their own decision? I think DA2 is pretty awesome.

I rated DA2 1/10 next to unplayable. Haven't though been bothered to make a review on metacritic.

It's not unplayable and doesn't deserve a score that low. Play Gothic IV, that's a far better candidate for so low a rating, even though that one doesn't deserve a one or zero either, maybe 3/10.

[moilami]

Persephone wrote...

moilami wrote...

macrocarl wrote...

I'm sorry, why does anyone think Metacritic is reliable? I mean, hey you can like or hate or think the game is somewhere in between but shouldn't people take a look at some reviews and make their own decision? I think DA2 is pretty awesome.

I rated DA2 1/10 next to unplayable. Haven't though been bothered to make a review on metacritic.

It's not unplayable and doesn't deserve a score that low. Play Gothic IV, that's a far better candidate for so low a rating, even though that one doesn't deserve a one or zero either, maybe 3/10.

A game what I can't play I rate 0/10.

Games are meant to be played. DA2 I rated 1/10 because of companions, hence the words next to unplayable. It has got one another award too. The worst game I have ever bought.

Anyway, we don't need tons of different game reviews. You just tell what rating each game is. After a while you can begin to rate other things in life, like food, books, music, movies, and so on.


Edit: HAHA, I am too tired to laugh, but this is so absurd that someone tells me a rating I give to something is wrong. LOOOOOOL.

Amazing. I will have to ask tomorrow from some of my friends "how do you rate movie X". After they tell me I tell them "you are wrong." :lol::lol:

Modifié par moilami, 21 mars 2011 - 09:35 .

[moilami]

He is actually sig material, but can't be bothered to change the sig now.

[Persephone]

moilami wrote...

Persephone wrote...

moilami wrote...

macrocarl wrote...

I'm sorry, why does anyone think Metacritic is reliable? I mean, hey you can like or hate or think the game is somewhere in between but shouldn't people take a look at some reviews and make their own decision? I think DA2 is pretty awesome.

I rated DA2 1/10 next to unplayable. Haven't though been bothered to make a review on metacritic.

It's not unplayable and doesn't deserve a score that low. Play Gothic IV, that's a far better candidate for so low a rating, even though that one doesn't deserve a one or zero either, maybe 3/10.

A game what I can't play I rate 0/10.

Games are meant to be played. DA2 I rated 1/10 because of companions, hence the words next to unplayable. It has got one another award too. The worst game I have ever bought.

Anyway, we don't need tons of different game reviews. You just tell what rating each game is. After a while you can begin to rate other things in life, like food, books, music, movies, and so on.


Edit: HAHA, I am too tired to laugh, but this is so absurd that someone tells me a rating I give to something is wrong. LOOOOOOL.

Amazing. I will have to ask tomorrow from some of my friends "how do you rate movie X". After they tell me I tell them "you are wrong." :lol::lol:

I usually don't "rate" stuff. And I'm not saying a rating is "wrong" merely shaking my head at it because I've played some god awful truly BROKEN games (Which is why I mentioned Gothic IV. Heck, "The Guild" is another one of those horrors.) Play "The Guild" and "Gothic IV" to see what I mean. Lotsa hyperbole......fascinating, really. Again, I am not saying you are wrong, I'm merely not convinced. (That matters not, I'm just gobsmacked by the hyperbole and the idea that this is "the worst game ever"......

[Lordsage77]

Games are meant to be played. DA2 I rated 1/10 because of companions, hence the words next to unplayable. It has got one another award too. The worst game I have ever bought.

Everyone is entitled to their opnion. But you're one of those people who's opnions I don't pay attention to.
 Worst game you've ever played. Pfft.

[Wishpig]

Wow, this actually annoys the hell out of me. DA2 is not a fantastic game, but it's not a terrible game. Personally I would give it an 8/10 but I certainly wouldn't bash someone for giving it a 5/10 or 6/10... I could understand such low scores.

But the massive amounts of people giving this a 0/10 and giving no sensible explination is freaking stupid. You may not think the game is great or even good, but if you give this a 0/10 your opinion is crap unless you have a REAL good reason.

The same can be said (to a lesser extent) about people who give it a 10/10.

[ironcreed2]

While I liked DA II for what it was, it is a far cry from the grand epic that is Origins and I do feel the series has had what made it so grand stripped out. Despite my being able to enjoy it for what it was, it just made want to go back to Origins after I beat it. In fact, I have a new found appreciation for Origins because of Dragon Age II.