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[Suron]

Someone (or several) needs to learn restraint at BioWare.

As if all the cameo's weren't over-the-top enough (just too many considering the time period/methods of travel/locations/etc)..you certainly took and ruined at least one character with them.

Sandal.  In DA:O it was rather humorous to end up in that room just before the Archdemon and see all those darkspawn lying about his feet while he's covered in blood and just spouts his coveted "enchantment!" line when you ask "wtf?"

But in DA2, because you apparantly can't do anything without running it into the ground...he now does this at least twice?

You know, bio, part of what makes an action or character unique is the infrequent times such a thing occurs.  So what do you do?  oh look I'm about to go fight the last boss...oh look there's sandal again...how..novel.

seriously, grats on taking the humor and "magic" out of the entire thing.  Now it's just cheap.

[Gabey5]

Cry me a river please. Games all have small world syndorme.. were you crying when you ran into Verner on Ilum? Or the other 20 minor characters Shepard just randomly comes across in the billions in teh galaxy? 

Modifié par Gabey5, 18 mars 2011 - 10:52 .

[otherarrow]

I found it funny. The ogre thing made me laugh.
Ruining? It's not like they broke his character. We know he can do.. something... to dispose of things attacking him. He just got attacked more in this game.

[ashwind]

He said - NOT Enchantment when I met him at the ogre. So... at least now we know that he didnt kill the spawns using enchantment.

[Akron1983]

They used an old joke with a twist to introduce something new in a character. Nothing wrong with that.

[TexasToast712]

They are trying establish the point that Sandal is more important to the story than you think. 5 bucks says DA3 takes place where ever Sandal is. *cough*Orlais*cough*

[wicked_being]

I thought Bioware did a good job introducing a whole new side of Sandal we didn't know: he can do destructive stuff without enchantment AND he can now talk in sentences.

[WidowMaker9394]

I'm just going to pretend this thread doesn't exist.

He's a character. He's a couple of years older now. Of course he've learnt a few new words.

[Melra]

Oh great, is this the same guy, that was whining about the Lyrium blade being a rip off from Soul Calibur? Just get a grip, it's still hilarious you just seem to be hell bent on making everything look and feel horrible.

Sandal won't enchant your trousers anyway.

Modifié par Melrache, 18 mars 2011 - 11:13 .

[Haasth]

How dare you dislike this genius Dwarf.
I would be scared if I were you, you don't want to get on his bad side.

Personally I just hope his "One day the magic..." line isn't just there for giggles and laughs. 

[Urbanus Venator]

Have you ever thought that maybe Bioware had this all planned out from the beginning. They gave us a taste of Sandal in DA:O, made him humorously mysterious and then revealed some more about him in DA2. He was far more then a cameo, he's clearly going to play a big role in the DA universe.
The only thing I disliked was his voice, it changed dramatically in my opinion. Or maybe it was just me :S

[Trackrtar]

Lets not forget all the people who never played Origins, but picked up DA 2.

[Darkchipper07]

Akron1983 wrote...

They used an old joke with a twist to introduce something new in a character. Nothing wrong with that.

^THIS

[heretica]

Sandal is awesome, come on.

I do miss Wade and Herren :'( Is it just me?

[JabbaDaHutt30]

I've heard complaints that your import doesn't affect DA 2 a lot? Or is it just the cameos?

And yes, I agree that Sandal's performance is too much, not because he appears in DA 2 at all, but because his running gag is inflated too much.

Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 18 mars 2011 - 12:27 .

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Akron1983 wrote...

They used an old joke with a twist to introduce something new in a character. Nothing wrong with that.

yes, but you can only beat the same horse so much... or however it goes, er... 

To try and make this relate to another example: if I see 10x times the "the cake is a lie" jokes in Portal I will get an aneurysm.

but this is coming from someone who didn't think much of sandal in origins either.

Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 18 mars 2011 - 12:36 .

[Bathead]

Boom!

[Denpos1]

Catt128 wrote...

Sandal is awesome, come on.

I do miss Wade and Herren :'( Is it just me?

God, this, I miss them too! 

Also I really dont mind the Sandal point.. infact I hope to see more from him and that we discover more about him

[Oneiropolos]

Wow. I didn't know till watching that video he was saying "Boom". I thought he was saying "Rune" because everytime he said it, he was holding out a rune to you... It's not that far off, okay? D:

He also talks about the scary tower in the lake. It's explained he means the Gallows.. but what if he doesn't? It could be a reference to something much more. Then again, he does somehow mysteriously get to the Gallows BEFORE us even though we're shown having to take a boat to get there. Strange, creepy little dwarf. But I felt they actually used him well and I really don't think he was just a throw away to confuse us. I doubt they had it planned from the -beginning-. I'm pretty sure the devs went "Hahah! What if Sandal was in the room when they get there since they're going to probably need stuff from a merchant. And there can be all these dead darkspawn around him and he just goes, "Enchantment!"

But I do feel they solidly have a plan for him now. Sometimes that's the way characters work out. You create them, put them in, and they start explaining to you that you're not grasping the whole picture. So then you sit back and have a conversation with a character you -thought- you created and who is now informing you that you didn't know anything. I have to create many of the NPCs and plots in the game I'm a dev in. I've caught myself figuring out a character and going "Wait, what do you mean Soandso did it? Since when? I never planned for...oh wait. That does make sense with....crap. They really did do it all along? And you're just now telling me....I really hate you." One of my biggest reliefs was discovering other devs also had NPCs pull that stunt on them. I was a little afraid I was just insane for a while there. Of course, that's pretty much a mandatory requirement to create stories for games, but you want to know you're insane in the same ways as the other creators sometimes!

[Mariefoxprice83]

I like Sandal in DAII. but last night I put one of my Origins characters through Witch Hunt so I could import her for my 2nd playthrough of DAII and I felt that Sandal's voice at the Circle Tower was way off what it should be.

[AlexXIV]

I don't think they ruined him. Actually they have given him a bigger/greater role in the Dragon Age universe. What was hinted a bit is that Sandal is special in DA:O. Now we know he is very special. Maybe some sort of a seer or mage. People speculate everything from 'Sandal is an Archdemon' over 'Sandal is the Maker' to 'Sandal is the first dwarven mage'. And they are not all just kidding.

Also you shouldn't treat Sandal being there in the endgame to sell and buy stuff as part of the story. It is simply a means to handle your loot in the last part where you can't just go back to the market. It is a sort of running gag/inside joke, I wouldn't take that serious.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 18 mars 2011 - 01:43 .

[LilyDelyrium]

Akron1983 wrote...

They used an old joke with a twist to introduce something new in a character. Nothing wrong with that.

My thoughts exactly...

[KentGoldings]

Speaking as the father of two children on the Autism Spectrum. Sandal is Autistic. He was obviously abandoned by this biological parents as a child before being rescued by father. There is nothing really mysterious about him accept he seems to be able to use magic.

[KenKenpachi]

Hmm I like the changes to him honestly. He's more important, and well...lets fact it, why leave him as the token retard to sell you things, I mean did anyone get a kick out of that, if so your more vile than me.

KentGoldings wrote...

Speaking as the father of two children on the Autism Spectrum. Sandal is Autistic. He was obviously abandoned by this biological parents as a child before being rescued by father. There is nothing really mysterious about him accept he seems to be able to use magic.

Partially right, but your kids aren't soothsayers, and kill armies of warriors now do they? In serriousness if they do, how much to borrow them for one day to crush my enemies?

Hell why Sandal's dad doesn't do that short of not knowing it is beyond me.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 18 mars 2011 - 02:43 .

[Boradam]

Just watch Sandal become a companion and save the world in DA3, I'm serious.