I'm a Mage and enjoying being a good guy. I wanted to make the best story to import into DA3 (unless they don't but that's unlikely).
I've gotten to part where Anders basically becomes a terrorist and kills the people in the chantry and you've got the chance to kill him. Sebastion threatens to leave if he doesn't die but Anders is just trying to protect the mages.
What should I do and which option will make the better story??
Anders. Better for the story to kill or not?
Débuté par
Willis Macvalin
, mars 18 2011 06:13
#1
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:13
#2
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:17
Do you really want to hear him whining at how oppressed he is all the time in DA3?
You know what needs to be done OP.
You know what needs to be done OP.
- Arshei aime ceci
#3
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:18
Anders attacked the one faction in Kirkwall that didn't deserve it after Petrice got one in the noggin'. I could even have understood it had he attacked the templars, but not this. I have a really hard time justifying letting him live, I doubt I ever do that in any of my playthroughs.
- Arshei aime ceci
#4
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:18
Invest in a kleenex mine and reap the profits as he cries about mages all the time.
#5
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:23
i wanna see him go on a guilt ridden drinking spree so i let him live.
maybe drunkenly blow up some more chantrys i dunno should be good for a laugh or two
maybe drunkenly blow up some more chantrys i dunno should be good for a laugh or two
#6
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:24
No idea to be honest. I let him live in my first play through. I'll have a hard time killing him in any future games. However, I don't like getting duped.
#7
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:31
Well I don't think it matters for the story in general.
I found it better to let him live, same as Loghain in DA:O. For once to show generosity even to an enemy and also because he can't do worse. And Hawke should not make him a martyr. Also the way you kill him, with a knife in the back is not really my Hawke's style. I mean she kills tons of people, but she isn't a murderer.
I found it better to let him live, same as Loghain in DA:O. For once to show generosity even to an enemy and also because he can't do worse. And Hawke should not make him a martyr. Also the way you kill him, with a knife in the back is not really my Hawke's style. I mean she kills tons of people, but she isn't a murderer.
Modifié par AlexXIV, 18 mars 2011 - 06:32 .
#8
Guest_PurebredCorn_*
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:36
Guest_PurebredCorn_*
I don't know about the story but I killed Anders and I don't feel one bit guilty for it. My character was even romancing him and ... gah! I still get a little peeved every time I think about that stunt he pulled.
#9
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:39
One thing i could do is make two saves one where i kill him and the other where i don't.
#10
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:40
I simply couldn't let him live.
#11
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:41
Also if Bioware decide they want him for DA3, they will just revive him.
#12
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:42
I want to keep him alive in the hopes that I can drag him to Tevinter - learn some spells for exorcising spirits - rip Justice/Vengeance from him in the most painful way possible.
And then - make him Tranquil... very slowly.
Then, imprison Justice/Vengeance in a great relic of the Chantry - deliver it to the Chantry on behalf of all loyal mages - re-institute the Circles and make Tranquil all rebel mages... very slowly.
And then - make him Tranquil... very slowly.
Then, imprison Justice/Vengeance in a great relic of the Chantry - deliver it to the Chantry on behalf of all loyal mages - re-institute the Circles and make Tranquil all rebel mages... very slowly.
#13
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:47
better to kill? he's a murderer and a terrorist and his blowing up the chantry is not justified in ANY way even if you support the mages.
he dies. End of story. He commited murder of innocents in order to cause Templars world-wide to clamp down to force mages to fight and rebel.
His actions served NO PURPOSE but to prove the Templars/Chantry right.
Yes the mages should be free'd and work toward policing themselves alongside the Templars. Yes rebellion is probably the only way that could EVER come to be.
But the ends do NOT always justify the means. And he's just another murdering mage.
But then again BioWare made 99% of mages in the game EXACTLY what Meredith was trying to route out.
he dies. End of story. He commited murder of innocents in order to cause Templars world-wide to clamp down to force mages to fight and rebel.
His actions served NO PURPOSE but to prove the Templars/Chantry right.
Yes the mages should be free'd and work toward policing themselves alongside the Templars. Yes rebellion is probably the only way that could EVER come to be.
But the ends do NOT always justify the means. And he's just another murdering mage.
But then again BioWare made 99% of mages in the game EXACTLY what Meredith was trying to route out.
#14
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:48
I was playing as Brid the Gentle Rogue and she allowed him to live.
Love is blind as they say.
Love is blind as they say.
#15
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:48
Well I doubt it would matter either way. Anders is losing himself to Vengeance regardless so I guess killing him physically would just be the final straw.
IF BW wants to use him again they can just have Justice forcibly reanimate his body. No biggie.
IF BW wants to use him again they can just have Justice forcibly reanimate his body. No biggie.
#16
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:51
My rogue will let him live. Not sure about my mage yet.
#17
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:53
Suron wrote...
But then again BioWare made 99% of mages in the game EXACTLY what Meredith was trying to route out.
Well that's what happens when you build a circle on top of a giant evil altar built for sacrificing thousands of people a year AND bring an ancient evil artifact from the Deep Roads into the picture.
#18
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:53
My warrior let him live because he was her lover and she had already promised to support him no matter what. Plus she was really into helping mages who wanted to be free of the Circle on account of Bethany.
#19
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:56
Well since Varric tells the story, Bioware can retcon whatever they want saying Varric didnt tell the truth. So actually we can't be sure of anything that happened.
On topic: I dont think it matters. There are ppl who killed Anders, and there are ppl who let him live which imho means that Bioware will most likey make a sequel where it doesnt matter if he was spared or not.
On topic: I dont think it matters. There are ppl who killed Anders, and there are ppl who let him live which imho means that Bioware will most likey make a sequel where it doesnt matter if he was spared or not.
#20
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:57
@Suron - amen to that. It seems like Irving, Wynne, and my Hawke are the only mages I can be sure AREN'T evil, murdering psychopaths.
#21
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:57
I really hope he stays dead. I'm sure if you let him live he'll probably end up being mopey and obsessed with redemption, which will be equally as charming as his DA2 incarnation of moping about mage treatment.
#22
Guest_Capt. Obvious_*
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:58
Guest_Capt. Obvious_*
I think the OP is not asking whether it's a good decision to kill Anders or not, I think he's just saying, "What would make the story more interesting in DA3? Leaving Anders alive or killing him?" Nothing to do with morals.
#23
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 06:59
Well I ended up siding with my friends in most matters, so even though I ****ed at him for using me and called him a murderer. I figured his death was letting him off easy, and he could be of better use defending the innocent mage's he's just condemned to being slaughtered.
30 seconds later... blood mage's and abominations everywhere and I realised both sides were bat**** crazy and not worth defending. At this point, I really wished there'd been an option to just collect Bethany and walk away with my companions.
30 seconds later... blood mage's and abominations everywhere and I realised both sides were bat**** crazy and not worth defending. At this point, I really wished there'd been an option to just collect Bethany and walk away with my companions.
#24
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:04
I wanted to kill him about the time he started acting all whiny. There was no redemption . What if my sweet Liliana was in the chantry when it blew? There should have been an option to let Fenris do the ghost move or whatever he does.
#25
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:13
I let him live in my 1st play through for the simple fact that I needed his healing in the final battle. as far which will make the better story for DA3 thats a hard question to answer. I think in order to having 2's story care more wieght, killing him makes more sense cause he's been a major player in the world sense awakening. But the keeping him alive and in your party choice just doesn't make much sense to me. I mean the whole "the worlds on the brink of war" story thread is Anders fault!! when you think about it hawke isnt really even the main character. Kirkwall is. so I think if you want it to make sense you have to just let him go on the run (which he's rather good at) or kill him out right. the whole main plot and effect on thedas is completely Anders Fault.





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