Anders. Better for the story to kill or not?
#26
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:15
Because God damn it, Anders.
#27
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:15
#28
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:16
#29
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:18
#30
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:20
#31
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:23
I always enjoyed a good insane romp, and I never did get to know Justice very well. <insert naughty threesome joke here>
Admittedly my rogue was a bit of a smart ass, and while she gave Anders a good tongue lashing for blackmailing her she decided to stick with him: One part love is blind, one part knowing they were a decent team to get out of Kirkwall together, and one part letting him hopefully redeem himself until they can perhaps separate Justice from Anders ( no doubt in the Way Of Tears, as is Bioware's style) . They both had their agenda and their lust. It worked out ok .... we will see what DA3 holds. I personally hope to see a bit more of the *old* Anders honestly... One can hope.
#32
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:26
shantisands wrote...
I let him live AND went off to live merrily as a fugitive.
I did that too.
I can't kill him. I tried once, and just reloaded. Although I also have a feeling dead or not, Anders is far from gone.
#33
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:26
And even though Anders is whiny, at least in the end he wasn't all "Fix my problems" type of whiny. He took matters into his own hands.
And remember how you're going around killing everyone that dares wrong you? Now someone does it and it's out of your control he's got to die.
Modifié par Danjaru, 18 mars 2011 - 07:28 .
#34
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:32
#35
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:34
Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 18 mars 2011 - 07:36 .
#36
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:37
Gisle Aune wrote...
Danjaru, it is not that simple. Anders made the chance for a somewhat peaceful end non-existant.
Exactly.. I would rather have a war than it ending with Mages being just as oppressed.. Being made Tranquil left and right, being raped, locked up, turning to desperate measures and ruining others lives as well. They were little more than slaves, and when peaceful revolution is made impossible, a violent one is inevitable (wise words from Kennedy)
I don't know what people are more butthurt about. The fact that it happened or the fact that it was out of your hands.
Modifié par Danjaru, 18 mars 2011 - 07:38 .
#37
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:41
Letting him live so that he may deliver Justice the proper way, and atone. Martyrdom = no in my book. Look how many fanatics Andraste created.
#38
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:43
I think i'm gonna kill him on this playthrough too lol
No desire to let him live at all
#39
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 07:58
The game I'm playing now I'm planning to kill him, but I think my preferred story will be #1 where he lives. Plus, given that we know that Justice can inhabit a corpse, I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn up in expansions/sequels and I'd rather have it be something I actively choose than not.
#40
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 08:01
#41
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 08:05
Also I have contacted the Federal Bureau of Overreaction and they will be here shortly to take care of all the "Well they'll bring him back anyway if they want him" replies. They did that once with Leliana and one Bioware writer made the mistake of coming onto the forum and defending the action with some unfortunate turns of phrase. I highly doubt they enjoy retcons and I don't think we'll see another, especially with someone like Anders who - live or die - has fufilled their main role in the Dragon Age universe.
Modifié par Noatz, 18 mars 2011 - 08:06 .
#42
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 08:16
Danjaru wrote...
Gisle Aune wrote...
Danjaru, it is not that simple. Anders made the chance for a somewhat peaceful end non-existant.
Exactly.. I would rather have a war than it ending with Mages being just as oppressed.. Being made Tranquil left and right, being raped, locked up, turning to desperate measures and ruining others lives as well. They were little more than slaves, and when peaceful revolution is made impossible, a violent one is inevitable (wise words from Kennedy)
I don't know what people are more butthurt about. The fact that it happened or the fact that it was out of your hands.
The mages are killing innocents and creating chaos, there is now no order and blood mages and abominations are running rampant at the same time, and the templars are trying to exterminate all of the mages, during this thousands maybe even millions of innocents will die.
This is better than the uneasy peace of before? no matter who wins both sides lose and the mages were never capable of governing themselves in the first place.
#43
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 08:23
CRISIS1717 wrote...
Do you really want to hear him whining at how oppressed he is all the time in DA3?
You know what needs to be done OP.
Do what must be done lord anders
Do not hesitate...
Show no mercy... <_<
#44
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 08:26
#45
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 08:31
While finally killing him was satisfying from a therapeutic standpoint... I found the actual scene wasn't done very well.
In my first playthrough I was a MaleHawke 2h Warrior, and when I decided to kill Anders--who by the way was conveniently in a position to be beheaded--rather than unsheath my massive sword and do the deed... I pull out some puny dagger and stab him in the back? I mean, honestly... that was rather disappointing. I wanted to see his head roll.
#46
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 09:00
#47
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 09:11
Willis Macvalin wrote...
I'm a Mage and enjoying being a good guy. I wanted to make the best story to import into DA3 (unless they don't but that's unlikely).
I've gotten to part where Anders basically becomes a terrorist and kills the people in the chantry and you've got the chance to kill him. Sebastion threatens to leave if he doesn't die but Anders is just trying to protect the mages.
What should I do and which option will make the better story??
Personally, I let him live. He wanted to put an end to slavery and attacked an institution that's been involved in the oppression and slavery of mages for a thousand years. How many more centuries of rape, torture, tranquility, and death should mages have had to endure before someone decided that enough was enough? That's the reason I spared him as an apostate Hawke, descended from Parlathan. You should follow what you think is best, though. You should do what fits for the Hawke you've made.
#48
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 09:17
On topic: I think killing Anders makes for a more "logical" ending to such a crime but.... I didn't go that route. It just wasn't what my character would have done. Do what makes sense to your character would be my advice. Being happy with your ending is not the same thing as thinking you made the "best" decision sometimes
#49
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 09:25
#50
Posté 18 mars 2011 - 09:30
That said, him alive will probably mean him losing control to Vengeance more and more. And perhaps becoming even more extremist than he is now. Which could be interesting.
But I doubt he'll have that much effect. His role was to be the catalyst. So I'd say dead, because his name will most likely live on.





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