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[Madi]

An incredibly loose pirate with implied STDs and an irritating "cute"  elf who looks and acts like she's 10 years old. Straight guys really got screwed over this time IMO. Nice work Bioware. Better luck next time. <_<

[RhythmlessNinja]

Eh, everyone has their opinion I suppose.

[dreman9999]

Madi wrote...

An incredibly loose pirate with implied STDs and an irritating "cute"  elf who looks and acts like she's 10 years old. Straight guys really got screwed over this time IMO. Nice work Bioware. Better luck next time. <_<

Here how you solve this. ....Rivalmance Merrill. And get over yourself with Isabela. Oh and Merrill is Hilarious.

[October Sixth]

Anders can heal the STDs and Merrill helps pedophiles feel better about their urges.

[The Minority]

Well I disagree.

Besides Hawke is immune to STDs.

[DannyHunt]

The only decent characters in DA are the ones you can't romance. Varric and Aveline are much better choices and you can't get them. Instead you get the mad terrorist Anders, emo brooding elf Fenris, **** Isabela and immature Merrill.

Modifié par DannyHunt, 18 mars 2011 - 06:31 .

[Dave of Canada]

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.

[October Sixth]

Dave of Canada wrote...

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.

I'd like that.

[hawat333]

You clearly never met Tali then.

[Taritu]

Eh, Merrill is just a ditz. I know people like that in real life (if not quite as severe). While it can be irritating, they can also be a lot of fun to be around, because they enjoy life (as opposed to, say, Emo Fenris, or doomed Anders, both of whom are complete downers.)

Merrill and Isabella are fun. The men you can romance in the game are... well, not, whatever else their virtues are.

[Madi]

dreman9999 wrote...

Madi wrote...

An incredibly loose pirate with implied STDs and an irritating "cute"  elf who looks and acts like she's 10 years old. Straight guys really got screwed over this time IMO. Nice work Bioware. Better luck next time. <_<

Here how you solve this. ....Rivalmance Merrill. And get over yourself with Isabela. Oh and Merrill is Hilarious.

Seems I'd be having to "get over" herpes if  I went down that very wide road. No thanks. Yeah my little niece is hilarious too. Awesome!

[Dave of Canada]

October Sixth wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.

I'd like that.

Won't do Baldur's Gate 2 as I haven't done much of the romances there, ignoring KOTOR and Jade Empire too because I'd have recent memory than focus on insults from ages ago that I might have wrong.

Taking most complaints about characters and putting them all in one and removing all positive traits usually leave us with something like this.

Ashley is nothing but a xenophobe soldier!
Kaidan is boring and has Carth's voice actor!
Liara is nothing but a horny virgin with mommy issues!
Tali is nothing but a shy clingy girl with daddy issues!
Jack is a crazy [lady] that wants to kill everybody!
Miranda is nothing but fan service!
Jacob's nothing but a boring freak that works out all the time!
Thane is dying!
Garrus is a fugly turian!
Leliana is a crazy religious zealot!
Morrigan is a crazy evil witch [offensive term] that has no clothing!
Zevran is a [offensive term for homosexuals and/or promiscuous people]!
Alistair is some whiny virgin that doesn't know how to please a woman!

I think that's everybody.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 18 mars 2011 - 06:53 .

[Marionetten]

Dave of Canada wrote...

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.

You'd be too late. BioWare already did that with how they wrote Isabela. She's nothing but the one dimensional tramp everyone feared she'd be. I can't even stomach having her in my party as every single word out of her mouth is laced with sexual innuendo.

[HawXV2]

Anything can be broken down to childish insults, as proven by Dave. Don't speak for all of us. I find them to be fine.

[Begarian]

I picked a single romance option in a conversation with Isabella and slept with her immediately after. I remember having to work quite a bit harder than that in every other Bioware game to even get to that point. Actually the most interesting part of the whole thing was the conversation after.

[JeanLuc761]

Marionetten wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.

You'd be too late. BioWare already did that with how they wrote Isabela. She's nothing but the one dimensional tramp everyone feared she'd be. I can't even stomach having her in my party as every single word out of her mouth is laced with sexual innuendo.

And I would disagree, personally.  She does use innuendo all the time, but I honestly found it hilarious and occasionally endearing (especially when she would use innuendo on the amusingly naive Merril).  She's one-dimensional in some areas, but her romance is actually quite touching. 

[Marionetten]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

And I would disagree, personally.  She does use innuendo all the time, but I honestly found it hilarious and occasionally endearing (especially when she would use innuendo on the amusingly naive Merril).  She's one-dimensional in some areas, but her romance is actually quite touching.

You know, I thought Zevran was okay. Yes, he was big on the sexual innuendo but he didn't limit himself to it. Isabela... well, what else is there? She's so incredibly over the top about it that it just gets annoying. We get it. You like sex. Wonderful. Now can we please move on without you commenting on yet another rudder?

I'd find her banter more endearing if it didn't boil down to the exact same thing every single time. With Isabela there is no variety.

[MisterJB]

I assume you haven't heard Isabela discussing freedom with Anders. No sexual innuendo there.
And I agree with JeanLuc761. Isabela's romance is really touching. Her issues with loves, her coming back for Hawke during the Qunari invasion and the subsequent duel, etc.

Modifié par MisterJB, 18 mars 2011 - 06:58 .

[HawXV2]

Marionetten wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

And I would disagree, personally.  She does use innuendo all the time, but I honestly found it hilarious and occasionally endearing (especially when she would use innuendo on the amusingly naive Merril).  She's one-dimensional in some areas, but her romance is actually quite touching.

You know, I thought Zevran was okay. Yes, he was big on the sexual innuendo but he didn't limit himself to it. Isabela... well, what else is there? She's so incredibly over the top about it that it just gets annoying. We get it. You like sex. Wonderful. Now can we please move on without you commenting on yet another rudder?

I'd find her banter more endearing if it didn't boil down to the exact same thing every single time. With Isabela there is no variety.

Anders, freedom. Go listen. 

[Puzzlewell]

I'll just come right out and say it. Even if Sheryl didn't write this underlying thing with Isabela, I find it pretty obvious: Her rampant sexual behavior and not making it seem like she can commit for a second is a projection of the fact that she is scared to be truly loved. The chapter 3 conversation where the relationship becomes real makes it plainly obvious. If you void any emotional attachment to a person you're protecting yourself from being hurt.

Yes she's out to have as much fun as she can but if you can actually analyze the things she says even post one night stand with Hawke (with the investigate options taken), a lot of the bravado is there almost as a defense mechanism. Her and Fenris are rather opposite. Fenris broods and is guarded to protect himself, and Isabela outwardly projects her escapades.

[MrTijger]

MisterJB wrote...

I assume you haven't heard Isabela discussing freedom with Anders. No sexual innuendo there.
And I agree with JeanLuc761. Isabela's romance is really touching. Her issues with loves, her coming back for Hawke during the Qunari invasion and the subsequent duel, etc.

Also, Varric mentions that Isabella (if you get her high enough in friendship) never leaves Hawke at the end of the game.

But lets not get in the way of folks spewing their opinions, shall we

[Aniki_21]

Madi wrote...

An incredibly loose pirate with implied STDs and an irritating "cute"  elf who looks and acts like she's 10 years old. Straight guys really got screwed over this time IMO. Nice work Bioware. Better luck next time. <_<

I do sense some serious loli fantasy issues impliminted with merrel.

[Marionetten]

HawXV2 wrote...

Anders, freedom. Go listen.

The exception doesn't make the rule. So, she doesn't incessantly hit on the one guy who is more or less openly gay. Yes, yes, they're all bisexual due to Hawke's amazing charisma. This doesn't change the fact she acts like a dog in heat around everyone else.

As far as I'm concerned Isabela takes female characters all the way back to the Lara Croft age. Her supposed heart of gold just makes her even more of an ill-conceived trope.

Modifié par Marionetten, 18 mars 2011 - 07:09 .

[HawXV2]

If you think Merrill looks like a 10 year old, you've never seen one.

[Beerfish]

Merrill = Tali. The op is wearing a Tali uniform. Hmmmmmm