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[Haristo]

Disagree for Merill... that's a great funny and interresting character, with a complete background and a mysterious personnal climax.

Agreed for Isabela however. I hate this ****.

[MisterJB]

Marionetten wrote...

HawXV2 wrote...

Anders, freedom. Go listen.

The exception doesn't make the rule. So, she doesn't incessantly hit on the one guy who is more or less openly gay. Yes, yes, they're all bisexual due to Hawke's amazing charisma. This doesn't change the fact she acts like a dog in heat around everyone else.

She also discusses freedom with Fenris
And truth be told, most times are the other companions who start talking about sex with Isabela, not the other way around. Bethany, Varric on one ocasion, Aveline, Merril.

[HawXV2]

Marionetten wrote...

HawXV2 wrote...

Anders, freedom. Go listen.

The exception doesn't make the rule. So, she doesn't incessantly hit on the one guy who is more or less openly gay. Yes, yes, they're all bisexual due to Hawke's amazing charisma. This doesn't change the fact she acts like a dog in heat around everyone else.

As far as I'm concerned Isabela takes female characters all the way back to the Lara Croft age. Her supposed heart of gold just makes her even more of an ill-conceived trope.

What? You have an unreasonable hate for her. Anyway, the only time I've ever heard her start something sexual was a conversation with Fenris. She's a pretty interesting and deep character. But we see two different things here.

[Conduit0]

I realize that the OP is a troll and all, but I'm trying to figure this out. At what time does it actually imply that Isabella has STDs or is even a wh***? I know women in rl who like to flirt alot and joke about sex, but they're not jumping into bed with untold numbers of men just because of that. Also what you feeding your children to make them look like Merril? I don't have kids of my own, and elementary school was longer ago than I'd like to admit, so my memory may be a bit hazy. But I'm pretty sure I'd remember any schoolmates that were sporting C-cups and had figures that a cover model would kill for.

[Marionetten]

MisterJB wrote...

She also discusses freedom with Fenris

She flirts and sleeps with Fenris...

HawXV2 wrote...


What? You have an unreasonable hate for her.

I'd say it's very reasonable. And judging from this thread it's a hatred shared by many.

Conduit0 wrote...

At what time does it actually imply that Isabella has STDs or is even a wh***?

There's an encounter at Anders' clinic implying that she has something.

And her actions speak for themselves.

Modifié par Marionetten, 18 mars 2011 - 07:22 .

[MisterJB]

Conduit0 wrote...

I realize that the OP is a troll and all, but I'm trying to figure this out. At what time does it actually imply that Isabella has STDs or is even a wh***? I know women in rl who like to flirt alot and joke about sex, but they're not jumping into bed with untold numbers of men just because of that.

Well, to be completely honest, it is true. There's a time in the game where Isabela asks Anders an ointment/potion  for an itch or a rash.

[KBomb]

Or the conversation she has with Merrill about having a good heart and deserving better than her. Some people can’t look past her sexual ardor, and that is a shame. Isabela is a great character.

[MisterJB]

Marionetten wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

She also discusses freedom with Fenris

She flirts and sleeps with Fenris...

She does? When? I remember her flirting with him but sleeping?
Anyway, are you just going to ignore the rest  of my point?

[Puzzlewell]

Many? Seeing what you want to see? The majority of us are not sharing the sentiment, and infact countering the whole 1 dimensional slattern (as she jests) argument with how she really is more than that.

[Madi]

Beerfish wrote...

Merrill = Tali. The op is wearing a Tali uniform. Hmmmmmm

Merril maybe be a poor quality  knockoff in some repects but that's about it.

[HawXV2]

CalamityRanger wrote...

Many? Seeing what you want to see? The majority of us are not sharing the sentiment, and infact countering the whole 1 dimensional slattern (as she jests) argument with how she really is more than that.

This.

[Guitar-Hero]

I disagree, i loved Isabela, though Merrils ignorance did get old really fast. I actually think Isabelas one of Biowares best characters to date.

[Marionetten]

MisterJB wrote...

She does? When? I remember her flirting with him but sleeping?

Yes.

MisterJB wrote...

Anyway, are you just going to ignore the rest  of my point?

The banter doesn't appear unless you have Isabela in the party. So, yes.

[Haristo]

Marionetten wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

She does? When? I remember her flirting with him but sleeping?

Yes.

JEEZ ! What the **** with this **** !

[randName]

I like both actually; I didn't think that I would, but I really do ~ Isabela felt shallow at first, but wasn't, and Merrill felt too nervous and naive, but wasn't ~

I would have liked Aveline as a different option, since I do agree that both girls in DA2 are rather extreme in different directions; but esp. Isabela is really sweet once she really falls for the main character, all while she stays her, and doesn't suddenly turn into something she isn't, which I like.

[Conduit0]

Marionetten wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

She does? When? I remember her flirting with him but sleeping?

Yes.

Ahem, as the wiki clearly states, that dialogue only pops up if neither Isabella or Fenris have been romanced by Hawke. So now you're saying its wrong for two characters in the game to have a romance outside of the main character if he/she has picked a different LI?

[randName]

xnoxiousx wrote...

She just chooses you in end for your money as champion and to ge tthe boat then she leaves you in da3.

She doesn't mind if you don't give her the boat, she even approves if you are friendly with her; and she is probably the character who in the end feels like she needs Hawk most; the rest are able to be who they want on their own, but Isabela is a wreck on her own, and she seems to see this as well. (Too hurt to dare to love anyone again etc.).

[MisterJB]

What exactly is so wrong about Isabela and Fenris having sex? They are both consensual adults.
I remember people demanding for Bioware to put romances between party member and when it actually happens, people complain.

[randName]

Conduit0 wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

She does? When? I remember her flirting with him but sleeping?

Yes.

Ahem, as the wiki clearly states, that dialogue only pops up if neither Isabella or Fenris have been romanced by Hawke. So now you're saying its wrong for two characters in the game to have a romance outside of the main character if he/she has picked a different LI?

Some people doesn't want anyone to have sex, such prudes ~ the same people probably have nightmares about their parents, or any girl/boy-friend they ever had, that ever had sex with anyone but them.

Modifié par randName, 18 mars 2011 - 07:40 .

[Aermas]

Don't forget we also have Fenris & Anders trying to jump our bones regardless of our sexual orientation.

[Sen4lifE]

Madi wrote...

An incredibly loose pirate with implied STDs and an irritating "cute"  elf who looks and acts like she's 10 years old. Straight guys really got screwed over this time IMO. Nice work Bioware. Better luck next time. <_<

Disagreed.  I like the options.

[randName]

Sen4lifE wrote...

Madi wrote...

An incredibly loose pirate with implied STDs and an irritating "cute"  elf who looks and acts like she's 10 years old. Straight guys really got screwed over this time IMO. Nice work Bioware. Better luck next time. <_<

Disagreed.  I like the options.

Same, I thought that I wouldn't, but I did.

[Icy Magebane]

Meh... I don't really want to get too involved in something that's purely a matter of opinion, so I'll just say that I also hated them both (Isabela and Merrill). People have already done a good job of explaining why.