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#101
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Dave of Canada wrote...

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.

Once again, Mr of-Canada, you say something that amuses the living hells out of me.
+10 friendship

Seriously, though, every character out there has something to like and something to dislike. If the OP were a straight female, I suppose he'd complain about the choice between a borderline abomination and a pit of seething resentment. I prefer to think of Anders and Fenris in a more positive light, but to each his own.

To my surpise, I'm finding that I like Isabela a great deal more than I thought I would. She'll never be a Dynaheir ("For the right! And I always am!"), but she is a lot more fun... and a lot more complex... than I originally gave her credit for.

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blahq34653 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

If you'd like, I could remove every single positive trait of every character in any Bioware game and leave them with nothing but a simplistic insult.


They already did that, it's called DA:O


Are you kidding me? The characters in Origins had much more personality. They actually evolved, changed their opinions, and you really got to know them.

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I agree with the OP.

DA:O: Morrigan, Leliana
KOTOR: Bastila, Juhani
Mass Effect: Liara, Ashley, Jack, Miranda, ect ect ect
DA2: ... Coolest romanceable character in my opinion is Fenris, and hes a guy.

So.. yeah..

#104
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Btw, Merrill does not = Tali. Tali was an intelligent team mate, and actually 1/2 interesting.

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Personally, I liked Ashley from Mass Effect. A tough soldier, not necessarily the most gorgeous or shapely, but a real bundled up NCO type. Also, the return of Liara was nice that she didn't feel so much like a 100 year old child. I really didn't care for either Isabela or Merrill. I don't want a harlot and I don't want a naive 'child'. Aveline would have been pretty interesting were it not for her square jaw of doom.

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Some Geth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oh I am so sorry for you:whistle:.


Oh it wasn't so bad. AT least this way Garrett doesn't have to worry about any rashes. 

But still I am sorry:innocent:.


Don't worry about it Garrett was cool with Anders' ..."problem". If people are too blind and stubborn to listen they deserve their fates. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 mars 2011 - 12:04 .


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In my opinion, the best Dragon Age romances have always been with the ones who come across as "free and easy".

Isabella and Zevran have both been surprisingly deep and complex characters, but you have to take the chance and romance them to see this side of their characters.

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Compared to previous Bioware games, all of the characters in DAII are rather one-dimensional IMO. I found Merrill amusing at first, but as the game goes on and you learn more about her and her obsession with the mirror, it's hard to really care one way or the other.

I found Isabela repugnant right away, and it only got worse by the conclusion of act 2. I was happy to give her the boot. That sort of desperation for attention (whether or not it masks insecurity) irritates me in the real world as well as a fictional one.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oh I am so sorry for you:whistle:.


Oh it wasn't so bad. AT least this way Garrett doesn't have to worry about any rashes. 

But still I am sorry:innocent:.


Don't worry about it Garrett was cool with Anders' ..."problem". If people are too blind and stubborn to listen they deserve their fates. 

Not really.

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DiscipleofUranus wrote...

In my opinion, the best Dragon Age romances have always been with the ones who come across as "free and easy".

Isabella and Zevran have both been surprisingly deep and complex characters, but you have to take the chance and romance them to see this side of their characters.


I actually found Morrigan to be the most interesting romance from Dragon Age; it seems very interesting to watch her evolve from just using you, to genuinely caring for you despite what she feels she has to do.  Then onward into the events of DLC.  I was pleased to find it to be so canonical as it was my preferred choice. 

Isabela felt more like the general "harlot with a heart of gold" motiff.  Seen it before. 

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Merrill is no Tali. She doesn't have the fanworshiping as Tali does! Not to mention that Merrill isn't in a Trilogy.

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Heldenbrand wrote...

I actually found Morrigan to be the most interesting romance from Dragon Age; it seems very interesting to watch her evolve from just using you, to genuinely caring for you despite what she feels she has to do.  Then onward into the events of DLC.  I was pleased to find it to be so canonical as it was my preferred choice.

Agreed.  My perception of her changed more than any other character during the course of Origins.  Once I gave her the mirror, it was very apparent I'd judged her too harshly.  I missed those moments in DAII.

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Some Geth wrote...
Not really.


Different perspectives. I have little sympathy for people who do jack squat while being given mulitple warnings and never own up to the things they've done. 

And then are turned into some pure martyr. 

For the record I think Anders is a ****** for doing it. But what's done is done and no one's hands were pure in that mess. 

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Tali is a racist daddy's girl
Miranda is a **** only there for fan service
Jack is ugly and insane
Kelly is a ****
Jacob is boring
Garrus is awkward and vengeful
Thane is an emo
Alistair is a whiny virgin
Leliana is a religous freak
Morrigan is an ungrateful **** ****
Zevran is a ****
Ashley is a racist
Kaiden is a boring Carth rip off
Liara is an idiotic wench
Bastila is a preachy hypocritical prude
Carth won't shut the hell up
Juhani doesn't do ****

I can do this all day, your argument is invalid.

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Gavinthelocust wrote...

Tali is a racist daddy's girl
Miranda is a **** only there for fan service
Jack is ugly and insane
Kelly is a ****
Jacob is boring
Garrus is awkward and vengeful
Thane is an emo
Alistair is a whiny virgin
Leliana is a religous freak
Morrigan is an ungrateful **** ****
Zevran is a ****
Ashley is a racist
Kaiden is a boring Carth rip off
Liara is an idiotic wench
Bastila is a preachy hypocritical prude
Carth won't shut the hell up
Juhani doesn't do ****

I can do this all day, your argument is invalid.


You need a hug.

:wub::wub::wub:

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I don't see what the problem is. Both are very different personalities and bring different things to the table as long term love interests.

Isabella is the diseased wh*ore with the heart of gold while Merrill is the sweet Dalish blood mage lacking in human social graces.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
Not really.


Different perspectives. I have little sympathy for people who do jack squat while being given mulitple warnings and never own up to the things they've done. 

And then are turned into some pure martyr. 

For the record I think Anders is a ****** for doing it. But what's done is done and no one's hands were pure in that mess. 

Well I believe in helping people so I am an odd man;) so I find New Anders to be wrong=].

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Both are also so selfish and self-absorbed people lose their lives over it.

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Eh, on a serious note, I am sooo glad I am bi, and not straight. Straight girls got the shorter end of the stick, once again.

Merrill is adorable, Isabella is suductively sexy. Fenris is a scene indie boy ripoff, and Anders is lovely, until he decides to turn terrorist.

All the Bw romance options have good an bad, none of them are terrible, though.

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Shavon wrote...
Fenris is a scene indie boy ripoff,


I disagree. I though Fenris was emo, but in a Devil May Cry sort of way. "Aww, hes cute. Ohh ****, he just ripped that guys heart out!:o"

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Gavinthelocust wrote...

Tali is a racist daddy's girl
Miranda is a **** only there for fan service
Jack is ugly and insane
Kelly is a ****
Jacob is boring
Garrus is awkward and vengeful
Thane is an emo
Alistair is a whiny virgin
Leliana is a religous freak
Morrigan is an ungrateful **** ****
Zevran is a ****
Ashley is a racist
Kaiden is a boring Carth rip off
Liara is an idiotic wench
Bastila is a preachy hypocritical prude
Carth won't shut the hell up
Juhani doesn't do ****

I can do this all day, your argument is invalid.


So I take it you don't like anyone then.

#122
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What does it matter if she has STDs? : P

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Some Geth wrote...

Well I believe in helping people so I am an odd man;) so I find New Anders to be wrong=].


LOL

New Anders is wrong. 

Stupid Vengeance. :(

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MrTijger wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I assume you haven't heard Isabela discussing freedom with Anders. No sexual innuendo there.
And I agree with JeanLuc761. Isabela's romance is really touching. Her issues with loves, her coming back for Hawke during the Qunari invasion and the subsequent duel, etc.


Also, Varric mentions that Isabella (if you get her high enough in friendship) never leaves Hawke at the end of the game.

But lets not get in the way of folks spewing their opinions, shall we Image IPB


i found it funny that i got both merril and isabela in bed and  they both came back  but a the end    i took off with isa and  post game shows meril in my house fopr some odd reason

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 19 mars 2011 - 02:03 .


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Ravenmyste wrote...

MrTijger wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I assume you haven't heard Isabela discussing freedom with Anders. No sexual innuendo there.
And I agree with JeanLuc761. Isabela's romance is really touching. Her issues with loves, her coming back for Hawke during the Qunari invasion and the subsequent duel, etc.


Also, Varric mentions that Isabella (if you get her high enough in friendship) never leaves Hawke at the end of the game.

But lets not get in the way of folks spewing their opinions, shall we Image IPB


i found it funny that i got both merril and isabela in bed and  they both came back for fi but a the end    i took off with isa and  post game sit shows merril in my house


I'm rather sure thats a bug, and one we wont see fixed ether.