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The Book? (Speculative Thread, Some Spoilers for DA:O and DA2)


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lx_theo

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Okay, remember the end of Witch Hunt? You were searching for Morrigan, who had stolen a book from the Dalish.

Now consider this, she also said she left something interesting for you. And when you turn around (if you do, not sure if you don't) as she leaves, you find two books. Now, I'm not sure which, but the arrow points to the most likely,

Now given the picture, I'm sure you have an Idea where I'm going with this. In Dragon Age 2, we see the Seekers of the Chantry using some sort of book to help show them parts of the adventure. Could this be the same book?

It seems very important, even like one of those books that are ancient and have major timelines predicted in it, with helpful pictures (like of the companions for DA2) to show stuff.

Modifié par lx_theo, 18 mars 2011 - 08:40 .


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Hmmmm... thats an interesting idea.

I always figured the book/gift Morrigan left at the end of WH was likely Flemeth's grimoire or something but interesting nevertheless. Of course, I figured the Seeker's book was mostly just like Cassandra or Leliana's running journal of whatever it is they're investigating with Hawke/ The Warden.

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I usually don't go in the mirror with Morrigan because I'm very curious as to what the book is. And It bothers me to leave Dog behind. :(

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Hmmmm, this is interesting. Unfortunately we don't know what the book says or if it is the thing she leaves for you. it could be a book about the mirrors and their history???

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vigna wrote...

Hmmmm, this is interesting. Unfortunately
we don't know what the book says or if it is the thing she leaves for
you. it could be a book about the mirrors and their history???


Well, two books. The Elven one was about the mirror, right?

Brockololly wrote...

Hmmmm... thats an interesting idea.

I always figured the book/gift Morrigan left at the end of WH was likely Flemeth's grimoire or something but interesting nevertheless. Of course, I figured the Seeker's book was mostly just like Cassandra or Leliana's running journal of whatever it is they're investigating with Hawke/ The Warden.


Well, it could be Flemeth's Grimoire. We already know that Flemeth has goals beyond what Morrigan expected, why not have an evil book with such information to go along with it.

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Ummm... they are both clearly books. Interesting, will investigate.

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Drowsy0106 wrote...

Ummm... they are both clearly books. Interesting, will investigate.


Well, one reason I also believe this is that when playing Witch Hunt again, I noticed tons of references to Kirkwall and such. They already had this planned out, so they could easily be the same.

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The book the Seeker use have a huge Chantry symbol on the cover (sun in a circle).

I'm actually not sure why Hawke's legend would be in it, unless it's actually a prophetic book or something made by the Chantry to explain what happened in Kirkwall.

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azarhal wrote...

The book the Seeker use have a huge Chantry symbol on the cover (sun in a circle).

I'm actually not sure why Hawke's legend would be in it, unless it's actually a prophetic book or something made by the Chantry to explain what happened in Kirkwall.


Yea, this.

Since WH takes place before the end of DA2, it can't be the same book.

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TJPags wrote...

azarhal wrote...

The book the Seeker use have a huge Chantry symbol on the cover (sun in a circle).

I'm actually not sure why Hawke's legend would be in it, unless it's actually a prophetic book or something made by the Chantry to explain what happened in Kirkwall.


Yea, this.

Since WH takes place before the end of DA2, it can't be the same book.


Can't it?

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I always figured one book was Flemeth's Grimoire, which would tell the Warden or hint at what she had planned for Thedas.

E: And the other was the Dalish book on the Eluvians. 

Modifié par XX-Pyro, 19 mars 2011 - 01:03 .


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It's interesting, better to look at the screenshots though. If you look at where the metal is on the book that Morrigan leaves behind, unless we're looking at a continuity error, it doesn't match up with the clasp on the Seeker book. So it's not the same. Still a mystery what book Morrigan left behind.

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I have issues with the first book being Flemeth's grimoire. In several party banters (with Shale and Zevran mostly) we find out that Flemeth's grimoires are written in a cipher only Morrigan (and obviously Flemeth herself) can read. The Warden would not magically learn how to decode this, Morrigan never taught him/her. So if it is Flemeth's Grimoire its a pretty crappy gift

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Oneiropolos wrote...

It's interesting, better to look at the screenshots though. If you look at where the metal is on the book that Morrigan leaves behind, unless we're looking at a continuity error, it doesn't match up with the clasp on the Seeker book. So it's not the same. Still a mystery what book Morrigan left behind.


Yes, its the big thing in thinking its not nessicarily true, but we've seen Bioware have much bigger contuity errors than this through the games (usually due to them wanting to do somethign specific later on). I still have large suspicions about it.

Zalocx wrote...

I have issues with the first book being
Flemeth's grimoire. In several party banters (with Shale and Zevran
mostly) we find out that Flemeth's grimoires are written in a cipher
only Morrigan (and obviously Flemeth herself) can read. The Warden
would not magically learn how to decode this, Morrigan never taught
him/her. So if it is Flemeth's Grimoire its a pretty crappy gift


Well
if Morrigan gave the Warden all the answers, why would she refuse to
tell him/her it seconds before that? Hints you'd probably be able to
get out of it, though. Say, from pictures.

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I'm pretty sure the 'book' is the one that was written by Varric.

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Edge2177 wrote...

I'm pretty sure the 'book' is the one that was written by Varric.


With a seeker logo on the front?

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I don't think the seeker book is the one written by Varric. Varric probably wrote a variety of shorter serials (in several banters, it's alluded to that Varric writes serials, and you approach him while he's telling a tale about you if you romance Anders, because Varric has a quest of being concerned about you). He probably never compiled them in a book himself. If he had, it wouldn't be necessary for the Seekers to even throw him in a chair. There's no way Varric wrote "And the Champion came to spread subversion". From what Cassandra says, she just has heard bits and pieces that they've compiled."So it IS true that the Champions brother was a templar/warden" or "Wait, the Knight commander attacked the Champion first?" It sounds like they've heard 'details', but definitely not the tales that VARRIC would tell. The Seekers also thought that they all came from Fereldan together... so clearly, whatever tale Varric told about the Champion getting to Kirkwall never reached the Seeker's ears. And Varric does know that part...not only because we see it in a framed narrative, but because he asks Hawke about what Hawke was thinking when that Ogre attacked them. Whatever stories Varric wrote, they definitely weren't the book. Some of the rumors from those stories may have been in it though.

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lx_theo wrote...

TJPags wrote...

azarhal wrote...

The book the Seeker use have a huge Chantry symbol on the cover (sun in a circle).

I'm actually not sure why Hawke's legend would be in it, unless it's actually a prophetic book or something made by the Chantry to explain what happened in Kirkwall.


Yea, this.

Since WH takes place before the end of DA2, it can't be the same book.


Can't it?


So, it's a book of prophecy?  If that's the case, then as the events in Kirkwall unfolded, the person reading the book would know it was accurate.  No need to interrogate Varric then.

Of course, yes, I'm sure they could come up with some way for it to be the same book. 

But I ask - why does it matter?