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#26
Oloos

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I think all the dragon age games are deeply tied to Flemeth, like she is kinda pulling the strings for a grand finale.

And do you hear Sandal speaking of an old lady with a scary laugh in act 3 ? I think it's Flemeth, and i think she have a great plan for Enchantement boy. In DA3, we play Sandal ! :P

Well... Maybe not... But still could be fun !

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Ok, probably someone else has already come up with a similar idea but what if good old Flemeth is actually a reincarnation of one of Od Gods?
I mean, in DA: O , Morrigan said it was Flemeth who had taught her the dark ritual designed to create a child with a soul of an old god. So, how could Flemeth possibly know with such certanty that the ritual would succeed? Maybe the same ritual had already been performed and the result was Flemeth?
Also in Witch Hunt, Morrigan says that Flemeth "is not an abomination and not even truly human". 
Who knows, maybe Flemeth doesn't want to save Thedas as we know it. Maybe she wants to free remaining Old Gods and reestablish world order in which Old Gods would reign again and be worshiped instead of Maker and Andraste?

I bet she's just an old jester who'd help The Champion and Wardens only because they are final pieces in her puzzle.

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She's 1/2 of the dragons in Dragon Age II. The "II" stands for the two dragons in the entire game and because one of them was sick, they called Flemeth to fill in.

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Long, long ago, a certain Starfleet captain found out how to transform into a dragon. Hilarity ensued.

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That sounds like the pillars of a good story. Of course that means the Templar/Mage war is just a distraction to create more turmoil. It could be God of War, DA style. Of course we are most likely so far off where Bioware is taking this franchise. I bet they sit in their offices laughing at our sequel scenarios. Most like DA3 is already done. Our ideas matching the overall outcome is by coincidence.

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The Angry One wrote...

Long, long ago, a certain Starfleet captain found out how to transform into a dragon. Hilarity ensued.


I love you so much for that.

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Oloos wrote...

And do you hear Sandal speaking of an old lady with a scary laugh in act 3 ? I think it's Flemeth, and i think she have a great plan for Enchantement boy. In DA3, we play Sandal ! :P


Dialogue wheel for Sandal:

1. Enchantment?
2. Enchantment!
3. Shiny!

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raymonddhj

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You forgot
4. Not Enchantment

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elearon1

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I love Flemeth, but it does seem odd that she appears so prominently in the marketing for this game (hell, she is one of only two figures in the background of this very forum) yet has almost nothing to actually contribute to the story. I suspect there was originally an intent to make her more integral, but that had to be cut for time issues .... which means it will almost certainly appear as DLC. (unless they pull a "two towers" and put it off until the third game)

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brain_damage wrote...

She's 1/2 of the dragons in Dragon Age II. The "II" stands for the two dragons in the entire game and because one of them was sick, they called Flemeth to fill in.


Um, there are like a dozen dragons in DAII.  (The ones with the wings are all dragons.)  There's only one HIGH dragon.

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PsychoBlonde wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

She's 1/2 of the dragons in Dragon Age II. The "II" stands for the two dragons in the entire game and because one of them was sick, they called Flemeth to fill in.


Um, there are like a dozen dragons in DAII.  (The ones with the wings are all dragons.)  There's only one HIGH dragon.


Dozen, two, tomato, tomahto.
Also, teensy weensy little lizards who shatter to pieces the moment I throw a fireball at them don't really count as dragons, do they?
 

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She was like --- TOTALLY in Dragon Age:Origins... and now, she's like TOTALLY in Dragon Age: 2... you think that's a coincidence?! I don't think so!

Pay just another 60$ for the next exciting installment of Dragon Age: Flemeth's Cameos!

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 29 mars 2011 - 10:20 .


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She's there to say "'Sup, I'mma gonna tell you about some bad stuff on the horizon... Kthnxbai. Oh, and buy DA3 to know what I was talking about..."
Just another teaser for the big cataclysm that is gonna go down... probably pitting Morrigan v Flemeth... Depending on player's choices and whatnot.

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raymonddhj wrote...

You forgot
4. Not Enchantment


and
5. Boom!

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Foolsfolly wrote...

She's there to remind you that BioWare's not answering any of the interesting questions.


Yes.. Seems like Dragon Age is treating us the same way In-Game as the SwTor crew is treating us. Giving us alot of questions but when we ask for answers they go "can't talk about that at the moment".

Incredibly cheap really.

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She's the dread wolf.

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wikkedjoker

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To retcon her own death.
She's not a blood mage, or an Abominations she's not even really human. . . she's a writer backed into a corner. . . . Her power RETCON!

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@ Dangerfoot: I love that idea. Maybe that'll be how it'll all end, by DA34 Flemeth's machiavellian manipulations will have left her in control of the Fade, the Black City, and the last free mortal city, defended by the Warden, Hawke, and any other heroes she's encountered, cowers before her godlike might. During a dramatic confrontation with the heroes she will reveal that she is Andraste, the Maker, all the Elven Creators and that Sandal is the God-Child. She will then accidentally walk into a lamppost and kill herself and all the heroes get sent home without getting paid. End of DA.

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elearon1 wrote...

I love Flemeth, but it does seem odd that she appears so prominently in the marketing for this game (hell, she is one of only two figures in the background of this very forum) yet has almost nothing to actually contribute to the story.


Are you kidding? She's one of the central characters of the series, in case you haven't noticed.

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The writers threw so many things to wonder about Flemeth in the DA2. Her apparence in Lothering at the moment the Blight struck and the Hawke family were fleeing is no coincidence. Her dialouge (and the dialouge other characters have concerning her) brought about more questions then Witch Hunt did for me about her role. I deduced she had some kind of foresight because of her comments regarding Morrigan's betrayal (not to mention that she transplanted a fragment of herself into the amulet given to Hawke in order to survive the Warden's assult BEFORE it happened) and even future events surrounding Hawke. I wonder what appointment she was talking about when she left Hawke at the summit of Sundermount? Remember, Hawke brings the amulet to the Dalish a year after the fall of Lothering and persumably the end of the fifth Blight, so she obviously was not referring to her meeting with the Warden in DA:O. This leads me to wonder how much she really knows of the major conflict that is predicted to happen in the next century in Thedas. DA2 made me see her as a mysterious force that is ensuring that the world (Thedas) moves towards one ultimate point. She says Dragon Age is the century of change, who knows what kind of change she is talking about. It has been referenced a couple of times in the games by Morrigan and even Sandal.

I wish there could have been more information given about her connection with the Dalish and her role in Dalish lore. It could have revealed a bit more about her mysterious past. I was a bit surprised to discover that the Dalish acknowledge her existence with a old Elven name and not as "The Witch of the Wilds", which she has labeled throughout DA:O. I wonder if that holds any significance?

Modifié par Welshire90, 21 août 2011 - 05:37 .


#46
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Flemeth is actually the storyteller of the Dragon Age games. Nevermind that Varric was chatting up the Seeker in DA2 - that was really Flemeth's doing. Varric is just an agent of hers, doing her biding with a snarky comment and a snappy retort.

She's purposely leaving out a lot of details - for kicks.

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@whykikyouwhy I completely agree!! lol Flemeth is telling the story by just appearing and interfering with an event. In both games, once she interfered in a crucial turning point in the beginning of the plot, the story of the protagonist unfolds and heroes are born. She is like Athena in Greek mythology who assists heroes/legends (Perseus, Jason, Odysseus, Hercules). lol

Edit: You know, what if she does serve the same kind of role as Athena in Greek mythology? She could be choosing individuals who are destined for greatness to fufill a greater purpose, maybe the will of an even greater force? 

Modifié par Welshire90, 21 août 2011 - 05:52 .


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This is Thedas...

 Image IPB

This is Flemeth... only male.

http://jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/upload/Gerri's-Game-Old-Man-web.jpg

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naledgeborn wrote...

This is Thedas...

*snip* 

This is Flemeth... only male.

*snip*

I agree whole-heartedly with the first image.

As for the second, it does not nearly capture her hawtness.

Though I do wonder if Thedas is more like Dejarik - where the pieces get to actually trounce each other.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

I agree whole-heartedly with the first image.

As for the second, it does not nearly capture her hawtness.

Though I do wonder if Thedas is more like Dejarik - where the pieces get to actually trounce each other.


Well then. If we can just figure out who the wookies are, we will know who wins.