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[whykikyouwhy]

Zanallen wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

I agree whole-heartedly with the first image.

As for the second, it does not nearly capture her hawtness.

Though I do wonder if Thedas is more like Dejarik - where the pieces get to actually trounce each other.

Well then. If we can just figure out who the wookies are, we will know who wins.

You don't know yet? Hmm. 

[Zanallen]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

You don't know yet? Hmm. 

I'll let you in on a secret, I don't actually play video games.

[whykikyouwhy]

Zanallen wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

You don't know yet? Hmm. 

I'll let you in on a secret, I don't actually play video games.

S'ok. I don't either.

[naledgeborn]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

As for the second, it does not nearly capture her hawtness.

Agreed. You did get my point though  

[Icy Magebane]

She saw Hawke slaying an ogre and decided it would be amusing to troll him/her for a while.

[Reznore57]

I agree with the chessplayer Flemeth , but I think she's not about victory.
She just wants to play and keep the fun going on.
And she might be a little bit like Isabela , the whole "cheating is part of the fun".

[Welshire90]

Flemeth is more of a chess master because she seems to be very successful in her manipulations lol...okay, that could be a big understatement. Seriously, who knows how long she has been playing events in Thedas from the shadows. Who knows what historical events in the Dragon Age world could have been influenced by Flemeth.

[Bekalynn]

JURE777 wrote...

Ok, probably someone else has already come up with a similar idea but what if good old Flemeth is actually a reincarnation of one of Od Gods?
I mean, in DA: O , Morrigan said it was Flemeth who had taught her the dark ritual designed to create a child with a soul of an old god. So, how could Flemeth possibly know with such certanty that the ritual would succeed?

Also in Witch Hunt, Morrigan says that Flemeth "is not an abomination and not even truly human". 

I've thought for a while that Flemeth was one of the Old Gods.  After all, we only have the Chantry's word about how the Blights started and where the Darkspawn came from, etc.  Duncan even says as much in the prologue of DA:O ("The Chantry teaches us that it was the hubris of men that brought about the Blight" or words to that effect...)  And personally, given the Chantry's actions most of the time, I wouldn't trust their side of the story any more than I'd trust that of an inquisitor in the Spanish Inquisition.  Why couldn't Flemeth be an Old God, perhaps the only one left?  It would explain why she has been manipulating events with Morrigan and the child.  She's trying to bring back her kind.  And it would also explain why the Dalish hold her in such wary regard... 

[miraclemight]

Welshire90 wrote...

Flemeth is more of a chess master because she seems to be very successful in her manipulations lol...okay, that could be a big understatement. Seriously, who knows how long she has been playing events in Thedas from the shadows. Who knows what historical events in the Dragon Age world could have been influenced by Flemeth.

If she had been picking people like Hawke and her family, then she didn't need much persuasive skills to 'manipulate' them. Yes, I'm looking at you Bethany/Carver, quickly saying "We're going to Kirkwall!" only to say "Should we trust her...?" some seconds later.

I think most of the problem with DA II is the dialogue and story implementation. Flemeth's short appearance could have been just fine, but because of the way it's executed, people keep remembering it as an insignificant event that just got tossed along the way.

[whykikyouwhy]

miraclemight wrote...

Welshire90 wrote...

Flemeth is more of a chess master because she seems to be very successful in her manipulations lol...okay, that could be a big understatement. Seriously, who knows how long she has been playing events in Thedas from the shadows. Who knows what historical events in the Dragon Age world could have been influenced by Flemeth.

If she had been picking people like Hawke and her family, then she didn't need much persuasive skills to 'manipulate' them. Yes, I'm looking at you Bethany/Carver, quickly saying "We're going to Kirkwall!" only to say "Should we trust her...?" some seconds later.

I think most of the problem with DA II is the dialogue and story implementation. Flemeth's short appearance could have been just fine, but because of the way it's executed, people keep remembering it as an insignificant event that just got tossed along the way.

Regarding the bit that I bolded...perhaps that's intentional.

If you look at her role in DA:O, it's hazy at best. She somehow rescues the Warden from Ostegar, trundles off her daughter with your party, and then is only seen again if you decide to go after the grimoire. Seemingly innocuous, seemingly innocent. Just an old lady in the woods.

With DA2, it's a brief cameo - an "I was passing by...oh? Do you need help? Sure, I can help you for a small fee." She doesn't need to dole out her persuasion because of the situation and because she swooped in as a dragon and made toasty s'mores out of the darkspawn. So at that point, she's already created a situation where Bethany and/or Carver, as well as Hawke, would think "ok, she's kind of scary looking with those horns and all, but it reeks of burnt taint out here...let's go!"

Just my opinion, of course, but I think she's purposely written to pick her prey, and when to interact with them, in a manner that appears seemingly insignificant.