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misterdde wrote...

The real point, imo, is not really " give us the toolseeeeeeeet noooow "

More like " are you planning to release the toolset update or no ? "

This silence is a pain

This. I don't mind them taking their time to make it as fit to be used by mere mortals as it can be, but the silence is a pain.

[_Aine_]

kotli wrote...

I would bet on that they are planning to release one otherwise why even bother with a mod & modding forum?

Its will take a while though as they will want to make it easier than the dev tools are.

That is my take on it too. Why bother starting a forum for something you have no intention of helping along, eventually?  

I wouldn't mind if it was a straight compatibility with the existing toolset ( no need to make it less difficult). Yes, there was/is a learning curve, but it is much easier than some tools out there.   Just wish they would give us a *tentative* timeframe for one, no need to make promises, just a general idea for hope's sake.  *fingers crossed*  

[translucentwolf]

kotli wrote...

I would bet on that they are planning to release one otherwise why even bother with a mod & modding forum?

Its will take a while though as they will want to make it easier than the dev tools are.

Not sure on that.  Note that Mass Effect 2 has a modding is possible board.  No toolset was ever released.  An article was published pointing out how sales for DLC went with DA:0, and Mass Effect, and how EA/Bio plan to push DLC going forward.

Release of a toolset goes *directly* against the DLC business plan that EA/Bio has for the future.  The dev cost of an top tier game has gotten pretty high.  Not all of it gets recouped from initial sales alone.

In short, we're beginning to see the same kind of model has been used with Consoles for a long time.  Sell the intial product ( console / game in this case ) at a loss.  Then make it up with sales of other merchandise.  Games in the case of consoles.  DLC for us.

Mods have become popular enough that now the big developers have taken real notice, and decided to cash in on the demand that modders have built up.

Alas, we have done this to ourselves.

Modifié par translucentwolf, 20 mars 2011 - 04:55 .

[Kendaric Varkellen]

But will people really pay for a different NPC outfit in a single player game? In a MMORPG, sure. Done that a lot of times in EQ2, CO and even DDO, but in a single player game I can't really see it.

Most mods are tweaks to gameplay mechanics and texture/model replacements, I doubt these would negatively impact sales of DLC. A toolset helps to keep the game fresh and by doing so can potentially increase the interest in DLC, which will net them more money in the long run.

[daywalker03]

translucentwolf wrote...


In short, we're beginning to see the same kind of model has been used with Consoles for a long time.  Sell the intial product ( console / game in this case ) at a loss.  Then make it up with sales of other merchandise.  Games in the case of consoles.  DLC for us.

Not entirely true, at least from my point of view; DLC on PC is bonus sales, since they are making it for the consoles anyway.

[translucentwolf]

Kendaric Varkellen wrote...

But will people really pay for a different NPC outfit in a single player game? In a MMORPG, sure. Done that a lot of times in EQ2, CO and even DDO, but in a single player game I can't really see it.

Will people pay for a different NPC Outfit?  I did.  I bought all of the 'Appearance' packs, so that my npcs would have a few more 'looks' to choose from.

Of course, maybe that's just me...

Modifié par translucentwolf, 20 mars 2011 - 05:26 .

[translucentwolf]

daywalker03 wrote...

Not entirely true, at least from my point of view; DLC on PC is bonus sales, since they are making it for the consoles anyway.

Unfortunately.... PC is no longer being regarded as a 'bonus' by EA. 

" As Gibeau noted, his company is looking to change that by capitalizing
on the digital side of the PC games market, a space that delivers high
margins and a large customer base to capitalize on. Best of all, it's
larger than the traditional PC games retail channel. "


We can expect more console tactics to come.  Google Operation 10 Dollar for more fun info.

Modifié par translucentwolf, 20 mars 2011 - 05:35 .