Yes, complaining that you can't be polite towards a gay person in game if you want to let them know you don't want to be hit on is certainly homophobic and idiotic.FitScotGaymer wrote...
Its not.
Its just a bunch of homophobic idiots who dont even realise how appalling homophobic they are being but coming on here and going "Anders touched me! Its sooo gaaaayyy! and Wrong! Make it stop!"
Modifié par tmp7704, 21 mars 2011 - 01:34 .
tmp7704 wrote...
Yes, complaining that you can't be polite towards a gay person in game if you want to let them know you don't want to be hit on is certainly homophobic and idiotic.FitScotGaymer wrote...
Its not.
Its just a bunch of homophobic idiots who dont even realise how appalling homophobic they are being but coming on here and going "Anders touched me! Its sooo gaaaayyy! and Wrong! Make it stop!"
Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 21 mars 2011 - 03:29 .
I read your post about it and i did a search on youtube for "anders rejection" and did not find anything to such effect. And from my experience in the game you get options to:FitScotGaymer wrote...
It is perfectly possibly to reject Anders without being a total douche; and its possibly to not reject him at all but to avoid the subject all together.
If you do not believe me go check the youtube videos for DA2 related to Anders. There are ones there showing how you DONT need to be a **** to Anders to say no to him.
tmp7704 wrote...
And if there's a polite alternative then it isn't made obvious, which also makes very little sense.
ApplesauceBandit wrote...
You don't choose to be gay, It isn't a choice, it's something you're born with. You should re-word your title, cause it makes you look like an ignorant tool.
The upper right option in regular dialogue has you flirt back, not turn him down. There's no upper left option that i saw. The second way to go about it is first to question his sexual preference and then tell him that you're actually bothered and/or mind the fact he is gay. If you consider that "polite alternative", well.B3taMaxxx wrote...
tmp7704 wrote...
And if there's a polite alternative then it isn't made obvious, which also makes very little sense.
Ahem, well, if you don't call 'upper-left' on the dialogue wheel a 'polite alternative', then yeah, it makes no sense.
Modifié par tmp7704, 21 mars 2011 - 05:03 .
tmp7704 wrote...
The upper right option in regular dialogue has you flirt back, not turn him down. There's no upper left option that i saw. The second way to go about it is first to question his sexual preference and then tell him that you're actually bothered and/or mind the fact he is gay. If you consider that "polite alternative", well.B3taMaxxx wrote...
tmp7704 wrote...
And if there's a polite alternative then it isn't made obvious, which also makes very little sense.
Ahem, well, if you don't call 'upper-left' on the dialogue wheel a 'polite alternative', then yeah, it makes no sense.
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ApplesauceBandit wrote...
You don't choose to be gay, It isn't a choice, it's something you're born with. You should re-word your title, cause it makes you look like an ignorant tool.
But in all seriousness, get over it, take the influence loss it isn't going to kill you, I don't like anders anyway, he's a bit of a drama queen.
Trying to dictate someone how they should or should not think isn't objectionable? Hmm. As you note yourself, Anders does get upset about it so it appears it's something that can be taken badly, especially by a sensitive person. So i don't really get why there can't be a more polite way for Hawke to express himself, especially when other conversations cover three different ways to handle things.Crossroads_Wanderer wrote...
I don't think the response you give to turn him down is rude, though. The conversation wheel just says "yes", which seems maybe a little forceful, but Hawke just says "I don't want you thinking about me that way". Anders gets upset because he's sensitive, but what Hawke says really isn't objectionable. I don't understand why people are still complaining about this.
tmp7704 wrote...
Yes, complaining that you can't be polite towards a gay person in game if you want to let them know you don't want to be hit on is certainly homophobic and idiotic.FitScotGaymer wrote...
Its not.
Its just a bunch of homophobic idiots who dont even realise how appalling homophobic they are being but coming on here and going "Anders touched me! Its sooo gaaaayyy! and Wrong! Make it stop!"
Ahh kk i wasn't sure if i maybe didn't get some optionsB3taMaxxx wrote...
Yeah, I meant 'upper-right'. Doh! The 'flirt' option was lower-left for me. I've noticed it changes depending on certain circumstances (I am not aware of which).
The lower-left was flirt option earlier in addition to the usual three-way dialogue, and i didn't take that one... opted for the joke option i think. Then when this particular bit of flirt happens if i recall right the upper right and middle right were both marked with flirt icon and bottom was the hearbreak option but the paraphrase made Hawke look like ass 
Hmm i guess we'll have to disagree on this -- i would consider it rude if i had someone tell me what they want me to think about or not, especially when it's not something i exactly have control over, like sexual attraction or orientation. My thoughts and feelings are my own and something only i am privy to, and objecting/trying to control these is quite different than objecting to expression of them which is a more fair game. Imo.JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...
no, turning him down ( i've played that part, if you guys are referring to after you do anders' quest ), sounds polite enough: "... I don't want you to think about me that way." is not rude, but he'll get rivalry points because he's being rejected... you can still hurt someone no matter how polite you try to turn them down.
Modifié par Shirosaki17, 21 mars 2011 - 05:34 .
! Personally, I think I used the "you don't have to stop" line (or something alike) which I roleplayed as my PC saying he was okay with Anders being gay. It did have the heart icon but he didn't actuall hit on me again and there was no romance. I also had full friendship with Anders quite early on, meaning the "strictly professional" option with a few rivalry points shouldn't get in the way if you're nice to him otherwise (I played mage therefore he liked me anyway). There you go.
I think it was "That's... unexpected, but i don't mind." or something like that. That's what i ended up with too since it's ambiguous enough to ignore the intent icon and treat it in the way you did. Still, an olive branch "Thank you, but thank you." option wouldn't be amiss.nijnij wrote...
Personally, I think I used the "you don't have to stop" line (or something alike) which I roleplayed as my PC saying he was okay with Anders being gay. It did have the heart icon but he didn't actuall hit on me again and there was no romance.
tmp7704 wrote...
I think it was "That's... unexpected, but i don't mind." or something like that. That's what i ended up with too since it's ambiguous enough to ignore the intent icon and treat it in the way you did. Still, an olive branch "Thank you, but thank you." option wouldn't be amiss.nijnij wrote...
Personally, I think I used the "you don't have to stop" line (or something alike) which I roleplayed as my PC saying he was okay with Anders being gay. It did have the heart icon but he didn't actuall hit on me again and there was no romance.
JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...
no, turning him down ( i've played that part, if you guys are referring to after you do anders' quest ), sounds polite enough: "... I don't want you to think about me that way." is not rude, but he'll get rivalry points because he's being rejected... you can still hurt someone no matter how polite you try to turn them down.
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