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[Chuvvy]

iampiano wrote...

Justin2k wrote...
The voice is spot on,

Anyone else agree? 

Nope.avi

Edit: To clarify, I thought whoever voiced Fem-Hawk was pretty terrible. I cringed every time she spoke.

Yeah, I've been picking up and dropping a femhawke since I finished male hawke. Simpley because of the voice I can't play for that long. Also I thought Malehawke was great.

[Aithieel]

For me VA of maleHawke was great also. Sarcastic options was fun to hear.

[Shorinjikan]

I much preferred my male Shep. I strongly disagree with the 'femshep is better' crowd: though I did find the paragon maleshep in ME 1 a bit flat he really shined as a renegade, especially compared to fem.

I have yet to spend much time with Mike Hawke, but 'Marian' seems fine to me. Her accent feels a bit plummy to me, but then accents are very personal things. My regular enunciation often sounds like complete butchery of the english accent, while my 'posh' voice is very different from my mum's, which in turn is a generation-and-a-half away from aviators talking about getting the men "awwf the bit-ches" at Dunkirk.


...Hawk still sounds fake though.

[Crimson Jupiter]

Femshep / Femhawke all the way for me I absolutely love Jennifer Hale's voice for female Shep. Hawke's female voice took me a while to get used to but now i like it very much.

[Crimson Jupiter]

Sorry, accidental double post that i cannot delete :/

Modifié par Crimson Jupiter, 19 mars 2011 - 02:35 .

[xMalleus]

 The Canon Warden, sadly, is the human noble.

However, I do remember that in Awakening Anders was straight. (As if that means anything =/) 
So that leads me to believe Hawke is female, (but again that's weak as hell evidence) and it seems like Bethany was supposed to live through the tutorial levels so I want to say Hawke was a Rogue or Warrior.

I remember also a dialogue (possibly with Varric, in part 1 of the game) that gave me the impression Hawke was supposed to be a female rogue.

Again this is all speculation, and Bioware has disagreed with me before.
That's just what my opinion is, and honestly, I probably AM wrong. I just like my stories to seem consistent Dx

[schalafi]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

If I'm not mistaken, all Bioware "canon" characters are male, unfortunately. =/
The only exception being a spin off, in KOTOR 2 which was made by Obsidian.

I agree that canon is male in DA2. If you play a fem Hawke in the game,  and step on a trap, this male bellow is what you hear. It kind of disturbed me at first. I haven't played a male Hawke, I tried, but his voice irritated me

Modifié par schalafi, 31 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[Maria Caliban]

I summon thee thread. From the depths of the abyss, I summon thee. By moonlight and midnight, I call you forth to once more move among the living.

Justin2k wrote...

So in "canon" Hawke is male?

They haven't given us a canon yet. They haven't even gone the ME route and given us an iconic Shep that might as well be canon.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 31 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[slashthedragon]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I summon thee thread. From the depths of the abyss, I summon thee. By moonlight and midnight, I call you forth to once more move among the living.

Justin2k wrote...

So in "canon" Hawke is male?

They haven't given us a canon yet. They haven't even gone the ME route and given us an iconic Shep that might as well be canon.

And I pray they never do.

[Lord Gremlin]

Well, if what writers told us pre-release is true, then there is no canon Hawke. Hawke's gender depends on your choice.

[andraip]

There is no Canon in Dragon Age, well, besides the fact that Leliana lives

It is supposed to make your choices your canon.

Also, DAO has no cannon PC, the Human Noble warrior is just the first of 3 preset imports in DA2, if that means canon to you you have to wait for DA3 to know who is "canon".

[Who is that Masked Man]

My second Hawke was a male, Aggressive Hawke, and the voice acting was great for that. He just sounds so outrageously brutal.

Unfortunately, Aggressive! Male! Hawke makes no sense whatsoever when combined with a Isabela friendship romance. Never have I seen worse clashing between the auto-dialogs and the lines I chose. He was all, "DAMN YOU, Isabela! I love you so much. Will you be ABANDONING me... AGAIN!... by leaving Kirkwall on your new ship, you TRAITOR!? But anyway, I adore you. Let's cuddle."

In the end I actually scrapped that save, redoing the whole thing as Female! Hawke. Female Hawke'd voice is often a whole lot milder, even when uttering the Aggressive lines. Given the same relationship with Isabela, she often sounds more like she's just kidding around rather than actually being that angry and bitter.

[Sharn01]

You guys are confusing canon with default and the iconic character used primarily in advertising.

The only bioware game I can think of that has ever had a character made canon is Revan from The Old Republic, they didnt just canonize the gender, they canonized everything, looks, choices, romances, and anything else so they could write books about him. It also wasnt bioware who canonized Revan, it was Lucas.

[K_Tabris]

I don't think anything in Bioware games are intended to be 'canonized'. Some elements of the game may have had more attention paid it during development, or some things may just resonate better with certain people.

For example, I can't imagine a Warden who isn't a female City elf. It just makes sense. Putting anyone other than Alistair on the throne just doesn't fit. Having a Hawke who isn't a mage feels wrong to me, etc. This is obviously very different for others.

Likewise, I think somethings were developed much better. Liara, for example, in the ME series gets the best role, romance and is not killable until the 3rd game. Some people gripe that she is the canon romance as a result.
I agree that FemHawke fits the role better. She has a better relationship with her family, and it fits nicely. As nice a voice and person Nick Boulton may be, I can't get past how awkward his voice acting is at times. =/

[slashthedragon]

Sharn01 wrote...

You guys are confusing canon with default and the iconic character used primarily in advertising.

The only bioware game I can think of that has ever had a character made canon is Revan from The Old Republic, they didnt just canonize the gender, they canonized everything, looks, choices, romances, and anything else so they could write books about him. It also wasnt bioware who canonized Revan, it was Lucas.

The thing is, people see the iconic character and think that it = canon.  Well, at least according to some things I've read/heard. 
That's why I avoid tie in materials to DA -- I don't want something to be "canon".  However, I also don't feel books are canon.  It goes (in most fandoms I am a part of)  original source > radio plays (or anything that involves the original actors or VAs) > books.

[King Cousland]

I really did hate male Hawke's voice. It was too whiny and, well modern I suppose (can't really articulate what I found so dislikeable about it)? Female Hawke was spot on, what's wrong with sounding posh?

Modifié par harkness72, 31 mars 2012 - 10:42 .

[Hexedcoder]

I just didn't like man hawke's voice for how I played. I always chose the snarky options and hawke sounded like a bitter old man. He was great for the aggressive choices and could do diplomatic, but sarcastic just had a tinge of world-weary bitterness and not enough "hur-hur *trollface*".

Whereas femhawke absolutely nailed the sarcastic lines. I firmly believe she wakes up every morning wondering who she's going to make cry that day.

[Arivle]

Imho males are warriors, females are witches. Since I love to play mage... go figure. :-) Not sure about rogues, that could be both imho. :-)

[Maria Caliban]

The reason that ME iconic dude Shep is different from DA II's iconic dude Hawke is that the creators of the game have said that dude Shep is their vision of the character. The Dragon Age developers have never made that claim. In fact, the default Hawkes are very deliberately positioned as figments of Varric's 'extreme' story.

[Dejajeva]

Totally just replayed ostagar on origins to hear fem hawke and anders.hilarious, yo. I hope they don't go switching the voice actors around anymore with major characters. I know this isn't exactly on topic so Ill just add...femhawke ftw, but I think male hawke is kind of sexy.

[Eudaemonium]

I actully think that Hawke's VA Gender is the reverse of Shepard. That is to say I see a lot more similarity between Meer and Wyatt and Hale and Boulton than the other way round. For me this is largely down to the style of delivery. I find Meer and Wyatt to have basic 'generic' tones, which sometimes appear monotone, which allows much easier customistion in terms of response. That is: Diplomatic, Snarky and Aggressive Female Hawke all sound similar enough to be a single person, which allows me as a player to fine-tune her responses without breaking immersion.

With Boulton (and Hale in ME), I find that the tones are differentiated from each other more, which can lead to dissonance in responses but gives the character more personality if one chooses to stick with one primary tone/morality. Snarky!M!Hawke is probably the best example of this, with his epic campness.

I like them all equally, but I feel that they cater to different playstyles and offer distinctly different forms of characterisation. Some people will prefer one over the other. And obviously this is my personal take on things.

[Lynata]

From what I've seen, BioWare did a pretty good job with the male version of Hawke, both regarding his voice actor as well as his default looks - the latter being much more unique than "generic bald space marine" Maleshep.

I've still stuck to female characters for my first playthroughs in both DA as well as ME, simply because I've grown tired of the standard male hero concept dominating 99% of the media (and because of Jennifer Hale's badass voice) - but I have to say that unlike Maleshep, default Malehawke had me at least consider deviating from this habit. Whoever designed his looks, good job!

Modifié par Lynata, 01 avril 2012 - 04:49 .

[Eudaemonium]

Garrett Hawke is kinda awesome, in both appearance and personality. I need to do an M!Hawke run at some point. Maybe M!Hawke Mage x Anders.

I need to stop playing mages, but they're just so much fun in DA2.