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[David Gaider]

Baelyn wrote...
**Wishes he would have quoted one of my posts (sad face)**

There you go.

[TJPags]

DiablosShadows wrote...

TJPags wrote...

DiablosShadows wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

My Warden made the ultimate sacrifice - another reason not to bother purchasing anything that has to do with Morrigan and her baby. (And you can't use the excuse someone else had the baby - or my Warden would not die.)

Died of wounds?

Injury kit:wizard:

Clearly, you didn't have as many in the inventory as you thought you did. 

lol no but seriously didnt David Gaider say that if no DR was done there wont be a baby?

In their defense, yes, he and others have said this, explicitly, several times.  Well, they said there wouldn't be an Old God Baby.  Apparently, she gets pregnant anyway, just with a regular baby (we assume).
 
@Baelyn - yes, I agree with a lot of what you said.  I'm fine if they feel Leli has a large role to play in the series, just like I'm fine with Flemeth having a (seemingly) big role, or any other character.  Yes, the story needs continuity, and to move on, there need to be certain constants.  The thing I'm saying is, if there is going to be a constant, don't make the continued existence of that constant an option - because then it's not constant.
 
Sure, they can explain Leli, and maybe they will, and they can likely explain an OGB without the DR, and if they put it in, I'm sure they probably will give some explanation.  The issue I have is whether that explanation seems logical, and also why the option that seemingly eliminated constant was there in the first place?  Having that option makes it seem, in my mind, that they only decided something needed to be a constant after the fact.

[Icy Magebane]

I heard that Morrigan getting pregnant regardless was just the result of a glitch with the ending slides...

[Big_Choppa]

Morrigan and Alistair are the only two characters I give a crap about. Merril and Varric are close, but they are no Morrigan and Alistair.

Modifié par Big_Choppa, 19 mars 2011 - 04:58 .

[Nialos]

David Gaider wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...
Are we just forgetting that whole major plot point now?

Nope.

Are they ever going to explain what the bloody hell that was all about?

Very possibly.

I only have one question. It is of the utmost importance.

Will I... get to name the God Child? I was thinking 'Steve'. Or GC Denton.

Seriously, though, I'm looking forward to the continuation of that story. What I'm really curious about is how you'll handle it with the diverging paths one could take - No god baby at all vs. going through with the Ritual. Because if I remember correctly, it was stated that it wasn't canon.

[TJPags]

Icy Magebane wrote...

I heard that Morrigan getting pregnant regardless was just the result of a glitch with the ending slides...

Possible.  As I always do the DR (makes no sense to die when you don't have to) I've never gotten that slide.

And while I've never seen a comment on it by devs one way or another, it's quite possible they said something and I just didn't see it.

[DiablosShadows]

Icy Magebane wrote...

I heard that Morrigan getting pregnant regardless was just the result of a glitch with the ending slides...

 Yes the slide if u dont do DR is the one that she is seen in Orlais as some advisor or something like that.

[MCPOWill]

XX-Pyro wrote...

The Old God Baby isn't even in everyone's game, therefore (unless they create a 'canon' Warden) they won't be able to create the sort of closure your looking for in that story.

As for Morrigan, they said multiple times she wasn't going to appear in DA2, however she is still out there so I expect DA3 to tie back in with her story.

It is in the Default preset import for DA2 

[Icy Magebane]

DiablosShadows wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

I heard that Morrigan getting pregnant regardless was just the result of a glitch with the ending slides...

 Yes the slide if u dont do DR is the one that she is seen in Orlais as some advisor or something like that.

Okay, I take that back.  It says on the wiki that this is the result of sleeping with her even one time...

"If the Wardenwas in a romance with her and refused to take part in the ritual, Morrigan is last seen traveling west through the Frostback Mountains, possibly with child, and it's been rumored she once was the lover of the Warden himself. (Happens if The Warden and Morrigan shared at least one night together at camp)."

Ah... let me just add this... you don't need to do the US to refuse the Ritual.  I mostly did it just to ****** off Morrigan or kill Alistair... I sure as hell wasn't dying myself!  Sometimes my Wardens are not the nicest guys... :/

One final addition so I don't come off as a complete tool:  I've also refused the DR because my Warden did not approve of forbidden magic... plus, it seems to me that it's a bad idea to give Morrigan an Old God soul.  I have never once trusted her... so my motivations are diverse, I guess.  It's just not the sort of thing I ever feel is necessary.  I only really did it once or twice to save Alistair's life.

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 19 mars 2011 - 05:18 .

[Baelyn]

David Gaider wrote...

Baelyn wrote...
**Wishes he would have quoted one of my posts (sad face)**

There you go.

Yes! Thanks Mr. Gaider!! Also amazing job on DA2!

@TJ You have to know that if they put a possibilty in the game for you with such big consquences as to father a son with the soul of an old god/archdemon then they have already thought through the fact that it will majorly impact the story in some way and would logically think through the consequences on the story for people that did not choose to do that. So I highly doubt whatever they do will sound like an "afterthought."

[TJPags]

MCPOWill wrote...

XX-Pyro wrote...

The Old God Baby isn't even in everyone's game, therefore (unless they create a 'canon' Warden) they won't be able to create the sort of closure your looking for in that story.

As for Morrigan, they said multiple times she wasn't going to appear in DA2, however she is still out there so I expect DA3 to tie back in with her story.

It is in the Default preset import for DA2 

There are 3 "default preset imports"  for DA2, at least one of which (I don't remember them all now) involves the US.  So in that import, there should be no OGB.

[DiablosShadows]

Icy Magebane wrote...

DiablosShadows wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

I heard that Morrigan getting pregnant regardless was just the result of a glitch with the ending slides...

 Yes the slide if u dont do DR is the one that she is seen in Orlais as some advisor or something like that.

Okay, I take that back.  It says on the wiki that this is the result of sleeping with her even one time...

"If the Wardenwas in a romance with her and refused to take part in the ritual, Morrigan is last seen traveling west through the Frostback Mountains, possibly with child, and it's been rumored she once was the lover of the Warden himself. (Happens if The Warden and Morrigan shared at least one night together at camp)."

yea i know but if u dont romance her /sleep with her u will get the slide that she just gos to Orlais and is pist off

[Jaron Oberyn]

I don't get how continuity would work if you never did the ritual with her.... At least in regards to it being a "major plot" point.

-Polite

Modifié par PoliteAssasin, 19 mars 2011 - 05:07 .

[lazysuperstar]

I think the kid will be the hero / villain in DA 4 when it is 20-25 yr old

[Icy Magebane]

@Diablos... I've never played a game where I didn't sleep with her, so I wouldn't know...

@ Polite... but it isn't a major plot point.  It's an option that has different outcomes depending on what you choose.  Only time will tell if this is relevant, or if this decision is corrected for us later on, to fit "continuity."

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 19 mars 2011 - 05:11 .

[TJPags]

Baelyn wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Baelyn wrote...
**Wishes he would have quoted one of my posts (sad face)**

There you go.

Yes! Thanks Mr. Gaider!! Also amazing job on DA2!

@TJ You have to know that if they put a possibilty in the game for you with such big consquences as to father a son with the soul of an old god/archdemon then they have already thought through the fact that it will majorly impact the story in some way and would logically think through the consequences on the story for people that did not choose to do that. So I highly doubt whatever they do will sound like an "afterthought."

Well, we can't know that, obviously, until we see what explanation they offer (assuming of course that they do this in the first place).

The same is true for Leli - DG has at least indicated that we do not know yet what explanation there is for her being alive if you killed her duing the Sacred Ashes quest - his statements, IMO, indicated that there WAS an explanation, we just hadn't heard it yet.

However, I can only go by the information I have at hand - which is, Leli could have been killed but is alive, with no current explanation provided.  My current opinion is that it's an afterthought.  That opinion may change, when I see what the explanation is.

Same with OGB - if they do it, and we get a good explanation, I may find it extremely plausible.  At the moment, however, even though we seem to have come up with somewhat plausible explanations on our own here, they all make the decision seem like an afterthought.  Again, that opinion may change when and if I see what Bioware's explanation is.

[Hrodric]

So, Mr. Gaider:

Does the warden come back to go undo the OGB? Maybe pay the ultimate price for it? Hmm?

[Jaron Oberyn]

Icy Magebane wrote...

@Diablos... I've never played a game where I didn't sleep with her, so I wouldn't know...

@ Polite... but it isn't a major plot point.  It's an option that has different outcomes depending on what you choose.  Only time will tell if this is relevant, or if this decision is corrected for us later on, to fit "continuity."

I only referred to it as so because one of the posts Gaider quoted mentioned it that way. I figured it wasn't anything significantly relevant due to the fact that not everyone chose this option. It would be sad if they made it a default decision, even with imports. Judging by the events of DA2, there will be imports. Hopefully the decisions from origins/awakening can transfer with the DA2 content.

-Polite

[MCPOWill]

TJPags wrote...

MCPOWill wrote...

XX-Pyro wrote...

The Old God Baby isn't even in everyone's game, therefore (unless they create a 'canon' Warden) they won't be able to create the sort of closure your looking for in that story.

As for Morrigan, they said multiple times she wasn't going to appear in DA2, however she is still out there so I expect DA3 to tie back in with her story.

It is in the Default preset import for DA2 

There are 3 "default preset imports"  for DA2, at least one of which (I don't remember them all now) involves the US.  So in that import, there should be no OGB.

Ah, but is the Default preset which is the DR and there are the other 2, which are a US and a DR.

You are right however. One is a US and as such no OGB. Although I have a feeling that the OGB will be more of an asset than a problem. I'd say the same thing about the Architect, but there is too info to make a valid guess on that one. The OGB however could come in handy to thwart Flemeth's plans if they indeed be malicious, or it could death to all.

Yet I have yet to play a game that had a consequence from the previous game determine your salvation or damnation. ME3 is going to just that though I'd assume from the set ups from ME1 and ME2

 

[MCPOWill]

Hrodric wrote...

So, Mr. Gaider:

Does the warden come back to go undo the OGB? Maybe pay the ultimate price for it? Hmm?

Ya know that is like asking JK Rowling if Harry Potter dies at the end of the series before 7 is published 

or 

Asking if Shepard will worse off and loose a chunk of the Earth b/c he didn't save the Reaper base.

Such integral plot points would never be reveal by a writer who has a story to tell and it be a good one.
...Especially writers who want to get paid and keep a successful career as a writer. 

[apantoliani]

Old God Baby is still a baby and therefore boring. Even at the end after 10 years, it'll be 10 years old. Still boring.

Give it until DA 3 or 4.

[Foolsfolly]

@ apantoliani. That's assuming the OGB ages like a human.

The fast aging mystical baby thing is kinda cliche of the genre.

[atheelogos]

David Gaider wrote...

Baelyn wrote...
**Wishes he would have quoted one of my posts (sad face)**

There you go.

lol:lol:

[Gabey5]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THIS IS HAWKE'S STORY not the wardens

[arnett001]

Gabey5 wrote...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THIS IS HAWKE'S STORY not the wardens

Haha he's got a point. This should probably be in a DAO forum.