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[Wikal]

I can't think of a good story standpoint as to why a mage Hawke would side with the templars at the end, if they're out to kill all the mages in Kirkwall? I've already played a warrior who sided with the mages (which makes sense considering your sister), but I can't seem to wrap my head around playing a mage siding with the templars (but I want to do a different playthough).

[OmegaBlue0231]

I played Mage Hawke siding with Templars and it was very awkward.

[The Spirit of Dance]

1) a mage that hates blood magic or all magic but isn't brave enough to make himself/herself tranquil.
2) an apostate mage that just wants to destroy the circle by any means.

thats the best i could come up with.

[gombie]

or an evil mage (even though you cant be evil) who wants to kill all other mages so you can be the only one and rule the world, mwuhahahahah.

or your an emo mage who wants to kill himself.

[Adynata]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

2) an apostate mage that just wants to destroy the circle by any means.

I can see this. But what confuses me is that they'd have to kill the champion as well when the annulment is invoked. Maybe mage Hawke thinks that by siding with the templars (s)he can survive by becoming Viscount and change all the rules in Kirkwall.

[LadyJaneGrey]

My mage Hawke was at first very "all mages deserve freedom!"

Then she [list=1][*]watched Anders kill an innocent mage
[*]lost her mother to a blood mage
[*]had to kill an entire Dalish clan and Merrill still didn't get why she shouldn't have dealt with the demon
[*]had her LI kidnapped by a mage she had helped years ago[*]kept getting attacked by blood mages when she went outside her door ... so by the end she was more interested in stability for Kirkwall...So it can be done if you really want to role play it.

Modifié par LadyJaneGrey, 19 mars 2011 - 02:20 .

[TJPags]

1. A mage who thinks the bat****crazy mages in the Kirkwall circle need to be wiped out, as they give mages a bad name.

2. A mage who feels someone needs to pay for Anders act of . . . well, not to start a debate, let's just say Anders act.

[Darian Tylmare]

A mage bent on power and knowing his only chance in legitimately claiming the title Viscount is siding with the ruling ones and/or behaving like a Tevinter mage and eliminating all competition to stabilize his monopoly on magic power.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Technically the Rite of Annulment is the destruction of every Circle Mage... and Hawke isn't a Circle Mage so he wouldn't be affected by the Rite.

[Tleining]

uh, even with the annulment invoked, you can save some Mages from death. Cullen will even support that decision.
I played a Mage who sided with the Templars, aside from the Anti-BloodMage (pro Merril though ) and Anti-Demon standpoint, she also supported her siblings. So with Carver as a Templar i had to support them.
I also played the Mage as someone who was a bit like Morrigan and slightly "paranoid", no way to support an "O" character and no patience for weak Circle Mages.

[BanksHector]

When I was a mage I sided with the Templars, I did this because I hate blood mages and my sibling was a templar. I could not turn my back on him.

[madlily]

yah, i rp'd it that all the kirkwall mages seemed to be turning to blood magic and therefore had to be wiped out..was kinda easy to side with the mages as a mage myself, plus i had Fenris as a love interest

[Pileyourbodies]

Any good mage would side with the templars because the mages of Kirkwall have gone mad.

[FastimusRex]

How do you effectively side with the Templars? Mini-quests, chanters board stuff, etc? When do those type of missions start appearing?

[Anyrandomname]

Just always turn on the mages no matter what. quests that say : tell the templars or let an apostate go. The first one i noticed appeared at the end of act 1. If you are the mage who sides with the templars, it could be that you just want to survive and you know that the templar leader would kill you if you didnt. Everyone is a survivor when it comes down to it.

[M_arc]

The crazy blood mage killing your mother is pretty much all the reason you need..

[FastimusRex]

Right. I guess what I meant was in act 2 there is a mage supporter (whom Anders directs you to?). She has a book with various missions to help circle mages or apostates. One is to frame a templar, or something similar.

Certainly there must be an act 2 mission equivalent that is pro-Templar. I'd hope DA2 isn't just primarily geared toward mages. On a personal note, DA2 is simply a catalyst for greater change, as we all know, I'd hope the whole 'illusion of choice' thing doesn't extend this far.

[Augustei]

Wikal wrote...

I can't think of a good story standpoint as to why a mage Hawke would side with the templars at the end, if they're out to kill all the mages in Kirkwall? I've already played a warrior who sided with the mages (which makes sense considering your sister), but I can't seem to wrap my head around playing a mage siding with the templars (but I want to do a different playthough).

The right of annulment is specific to a circle. Besides as far as Hawke is concerned if Meredith wanted to catagorise Hawke with the circle she would have thrown him in it ages ago, or killed him ages ago. She had 3 years to do it.

Hawke was in Kirkwall for 6 years building up a life for himself, siding with the mages would force him to flee from the Templars and it all would have been for nothing..

[TJPags]

FastimusRex wrote...

Right. I guess what I meant was in act 2 there is a mage supporter (whom Anders directs you to?). She has a book with various missions to help circle mages or apostates. One is to frame a templar, or something similar.

Certainly there must be an act 2 mission equivalent that is pro-Templar. I'd hope DA2 isn't just primarily geared toward mages. On a personal note, DA2 is simply a catalyst for greater change, as we all know, I'd hope the whole 'illusion of choice' thing doesn't extend this far.

I was actually wondering this, too.

I did get the mage quests, and I remember someone - maybe Meredith - calling me a mage supporter at the end of the game or something like that (funny how the groups that kidnapped Bethany didn't get that memo, but whatever).

Are there any Templar-helping-specific quests that are given?  And if so, where, and how do you trigger them?

[TexasToast712]

Mage Hawke siding with templars = Ultimate Hypocrite of all time.

[madlily]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Mage Hawke siding with templars = Ultimate Hypocrite of all time.

Not really.. in nearly every single instance against a supposed poor mage from the circle quest, every one of them turned to blood magic and demons because of them getting hassled by the templars...

Was kind of easy turning against them at the end

[Rafe34]

madlily wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Mage Hawke siding with templars = Ultimate Hypocrite of all time.

Not really.. in nearly every single instance against a supposed poor mage from the circle quest, every one of them turned to blood magic and demons because of them getting hassled by the templars...

Was kind of easy turning against them at the end

Ding, ding, ding!

So the Templars are chasing after the mages, wanting to bring them back into prison, and you're surprised and shocked that they used all resources at their disposal to avoid this?

[Anyrandomname]

ya but they were pushed to it. Even without the mages, meredith would have been corrupted and forced even her own templars to turn on her. They were pushed to it and it was really their last option. Even though some did it by choice, history is filled with people who will do anything for power