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[mocaxu]

what's with the repeated maps?

it's like the matrix glitched multiple times.....

[Shirosaki17]

Dragonball Z games > Dragon Age 2

[mocaxu]

oops.... the forums glitched....

Modifié par mocaxu, 19 mars 2011 - 05:32 .

[Medhia Nox]

@TheXand - I'm actually glad you enjoyed it. I'm not trying to prove those who enjoyed it wrong.

However - I won't say I enjoyed it when I did not. And I won't say it's a roleplaying game when I expect roleplaying games to have branching storylines on some level. If all I can do is decide the fate of Fenreyil and a romance - and the rest is the same no matter how I go through the game. That is not enough for me.

I can choose which board to go to and which Plasmids to take in Bioshock - but it's not a roleplaying game. It's a storytelling game - and an absolutely amazing one at that.

[Iradicos]

Soilborn88 wrote...

- Recycled maps

- Terrible item system (Lack of armors and weapons in the game. I went through the entire game using only 3 armor sets..)

- Bad character development. AS far as attributes go, every class is restricted into 2 attributes in order to meet armor requirements but in the first 1 one stat was only required, which makes it harder to make a specific build. Example, 2-handed warriors have to get constitution to wear armor where in the first game they did not. Would be nice to pump all the points into str and cunning to make an excellent criti build.

- Redundant quests

- The world lacks a lot of detail. To be stuck in a single city the entire game which is suppose to be very large in population only to see no more than 10 NPCS in a giving area.

- Very bad companion customization options. With all the useless unique armors you find it's a shame you have to NPC them all as soon as you find better since you can't dish it off to one of your teammates who may be able to make good use of it.

- Bad companion interaction. In Origins you can talk to your companions and assess the situation at any time and develop your relationship with them at any time, in DA2 you can only develop your relationship during certain points in the game when quests are given.

- Lack of tactics and strategic elements, no Isometic camera. Iso camera was very useful in Origins because it make targeting enemies much easier, examining more of the battlefield and formulating strategies, ally positions, and targeting the ground/enemies with talents much easier. These elements were omitted for more faced passed combat and action.

- Why did they take out Skills? I for one liked having skills in the first game. Now speech checks are no longer there, or additional perks like tactics, survival, TRAP MAKING, and many others.

That's just a few things.

I completely agree with you. The fun in DA:O was the exploring new places...like the underground city of the Dwarves, or the Dalish camp, even the Korcari Wilds! I also disliked how they made so many talent trees with "upgrades" to purchase...for example, I loved the fact that in DA:O as a mage, I could use regular walking bomb
on a single opponent and not have to waste much mana, and then be able to use virulent walking bomb only when I wanted to (and not waste as much mana). Plus I hated the new animations for spells and their effects, it just wasn't as catchy as DA:O. Plus there were hardly any cinematics (notwithstanding the in-game graphics ones, which don't count)

However, I must admit, that I somewhat like the new combat animations for mages, especially on the opening scene when you own. I also liked the fact that there wasn't only 20 NPC models cloned throughout the cities. That was one thing that annoyed me with DA:O, I would come up to a guy and be all "Hey I know you!" but then I found out it was someone completely different, even though he had the same voice and appearance.

All in all, it was a rush job on Bioware's part and sadly enough...I'm going back to DA:O.
(Excited though for SWTOR! W00T!)

[amat3rasu]

I'm sorry to say that this is the first time I have ever been disappointed in Bioware.. All I expected was more of their masterful storytelling (which I am still yet to find after completion of the First Year), a great plot (again..one which is yet to magically appear) and interesting characters. Sadly I received none of them. All of the characters have the personalities of High School kids. Grumpy and drowning in Self Pity? (Fenrir) -check.
****ty Pretty Girl who talks trash (Isabela) -check
Same goes for Carver the emo and attention seeking brat, Aveline the righteous and..Anders. Never liked him in Awakening either...
And I also must say that the game seems so much political...world changing/rise to power.. my butt. Bioware.. I haven't lost faith in you but this game is NOT Dragon Age 2! More like 1.5. I can only hope that you will bring back the epic storytelling and memorable characters of your previous titles.

[Medhia Nox]

You're wrong amat3rasu - you're not disappointed in Bioware - you're old, and outdated, and should only be disappointed in yourself!

Whereas I am excited about this game - so that must mean that I am evolving with the times, I'm hip, and intellectual!

[Iradicos]

Heh...I would love to see a moderator post an opinion on why DA2 failed...

[Jitter]

It's not thats it is bad per se.

But DAO was like a Steak dinner , with all the fixin's
And DA2 is like a bowl of oatmeal , with the option to buy a spoon.

Modifié par Jitter, 19 mars 2011 - 06:35 .

[xan0713]

The only thing that tends to get my eyes rolling is something minor and will probably get assessed.

Echoing voices, where in some areas there should be no echo (Like outdoors).

[Clonedzero]

The_Eejit wrote...

Its bad because its a rush job made to appeal to dragon ball z fans.

Its clear that anybody who didn't like DA:O likes DA2, which leads to the question as to why they were waiting for the the game in the place.

when i hate something, generally i put it behidn me and forget about it. i dont spend all my free time on a forum whining about it. but thats me.

[Jitter]

xan0713 wrote...

The only thing that tends to get my eyes rolling is something minor and will probably get assessed.

Echoing voices, where in some areas there should be no echo (Like outdoors).

More Duck required ....
don't flame me .. i know .. i know 

[Jitter]

Medhia Nox wrote...

You're wrong amat3rasu - you're not disappointed in Bioware - you're old, and outdated, and should only be disappointed in yourself!

Whereas I am excited about this game - so that must mean that I am evolving with the times, I'm hip, and intellectual!

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better loking each day.

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn't compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.

Well I prob'ly could find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me.

Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

I guess you could say I'm a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn't stand out from the crowd.

Some folks say that I'm egotistical.
Hell, I don't even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

[xan0713]

Jitter wrote...

xan0713 wrote...

The only thing that tends to get my eyes rolling is something minor and will probably get assessed.

Echoing voices, where in some areas there should be no echo (Like outdoors).

More Duck required ....
don't flame me .. i know .. i know 

Hahahaha.

[CitizenSnips]

It was rushed.

[neppakyo]

Jitter wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

You're wrong amat3rasu - you're not disappointed in Bioware - you're old, and outdated, and should only be disappointed in yourself!

Whereas I am excited about this game - so that must mean that I am evolving with the times, I'm hip, and intellectual!

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better loking each day.

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn't compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.

Well I prob'ly could find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me.

Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

I guess you could say I'm a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn't stand out from the crowd.

Some folks say that I'm egotistical.
Hell, I don't even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

haha using a Mac Davis song, nice.

[Spartas Husky]

DA 2 is like ME2.

Better graphics.... downgrraded gameplay to appeal to a more... "inexperience" audience.... who the hell am I kidding, to a appeal to more idiots.

Everything would be bareable if it wasn't for the stupid idea that depending on your class one of your siblings die. I want to play a mage and fight with my sister. So much for a game based around choice....

[AkiKishi]

They changed a lot of things in DA2, that annoys many different people for many different reasons. What DA2 managed to do was put all my RPG "pet hates" into one package, which is why I rate it 4.

[Persephone]

Shirosaki17 wrote...

Dragonball Z games > Dragon Age 2

You're serious, aren't you? That's.........just sad.

[Marcy3655]

in my flea-bitten little opinion there's no way they could have topped Origins.. the first game was a timeless masterpiece and I think they knew that from the start so they took DA2 in a completely new direction, and they were smart to do so..

were there things in Origins that could have been better? Sure, nothing is perfect, but expecting DA2 to be like Origins is.. well..

I like the new game and would have been a little let down if it had been just a continuation of Origins, something they have already done.. they changed things because change is good, although there are many who have a hard time with change and all the unhappy words I'm reading tell me how true that is.. it's a completely different experience than the first game and I am impressed with their courage to take it in a completely new direction.. that's always a risk but if you don't take any risks, well... you become stale and uninspired...

There are things I wish could have been different with the game, but overall I have been really enjoying it... I'm hoping it's the middle game in a series of three episodes, but with all the threads about how bad it is perhaps they will decide they are finished with the Dragon Age series and do something else now... I hope that's not true, but wouldn't blame them if they did...

I prefer to find things I like about it rather than spend time brooding over what I don't like, but that's just me I guess...

M

[epiccrabs]

One thing I hate about it besides the gameplay is its graphics. Instead of taking a step forward, it took a step backwards. How can you go from a very colorful darkspawn to a OVERCOLORED WITH BROWN Darkspawn. Many more stupidity can be seen,

http://4chanarchive....99740907647.jpg
http://kaonazhie.fil...s-very-good.jpg
http://media.photobu...98690855673.jpg

Check em out.

[Persephone]

Marcy3655 wrote...

There are things I wish could have been different with the game, but overall I have been really enjoying it... I'm hoping it's the middle game in a series of three episodes, but with all the threads about how bad it is perhaps they will decide they are finished with the Dragon Age series and do something else now... I hope that's not true, but wouldn't blame them if they did...
 

Not likely. I doubt they'll abandon this franchise.  Not based on some forum hating which always happens after a game is released. They are already working on stuff. 

[CRISIS1717]

I agree with you OP, but you missed out lack of customisation, recycled maps, bad storyline, the player being restricted to Kirkwall, weak characters, no purpose or goal, over the top Power Rangers combat (its mighty morphin time!).

There's just so much wrong with this game, I feel bad for Biowares hardcore fans like me who were disappointed.

[Marcy3655]

Persephone wrote...


Not likely. I doubt they'll abandon this franchise.  Not based on some forum hating which always happens after a game is released. They are already working on stuff. 

I sure hope you are right, cuz I love the series...

M

[Shadowcrazy4]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

I agree with you OP, but you missed out lack of customisation, recycled maps, bad storyline, the player being restricted to Kirkwall, weak characters, no purpose or goal, over the top Power Rangers combat (its mighty morphin time!).

There's just so much wrong with this game, I feel bad for Biowares hardcore fans like me who were disappointed.

I don't need your pity....*tear*